Difference between R/3 4.7, ECC5 & ECC6 anyone?

[Former Member]

i am new to SAP, just i started learing ABAP and BW,i have so many doubts like this please please help me.......

what netweaver consists of?

is(netweaver) it a package that contain ABAP , functional modules and bw?

is bw3 is seperate sap product?

in later versions like ecc5 or ecc6 will these comes with abap and functional modules?

if not what ecc5 and ecc6 contains?

suppose if i installed ecc6 what about bw,later i have to install bw on ecc6 or it comes with ecc6?

what is latest version of bw is it bi7 or bw 3.5?

[Former Member]

Hi,

Following with the original questions: difference between R/3, ECC, etc ... I am still confused with ERP and ECC concepts.

If ECC is part of ERP,what is included in ECC? what else is included in ERP that is not in ECC?

What is the difference between ECC and ERP?

When I check the Product Availability Matrix (PAM) I can see links to "SAP ERP 6.0" and "SAP ECC 6.0". In both pages I can see a "Product Home Page" link which is the same in both cases (service.sap.com/erp).

For example, in an Upgrade with 4.7 as a source release, the target version is ECC 5/6.0 or ERP 5/6.0? At this moment to me is the same, but I am still confused with the concept. Thanks a lot.

Regards

[Former Member]

HI Alvaro,

The answer to your question is probably one of technicalities and semantics.

ERP stands for Enterprise Resource Planning - integrated business management system (includes all aspects and computerization methods that are needed to effectively plan and manage a business).

SAP ECC stands for ERP Central Component and just represents a technical name that is really only relevant for customers that are upgrading from lower level releases. That is, the evolution from R/3 4.7 -> R/3 Enterprise -> SAP ERP.

So, in reality, there really is no difference between ECC and ERP.

Best Regards,

Matt

[Former Member]

Hi Matt,

As far as I know about technical differences:

R/3 4.7 is based on Web AS 6.20

ECC 5 is based on [Web AS 6.40|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/84/54953fc405330ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm] (Netweaver 04)

ECC 6 is based on Netweaver 7.0

as their technology platform which provide complete administration ,development and runtime environment for SAP applications.

Netweaver provides ECC 5 and 6 the inbuilt functionality of open integration of processes (via XI) and information (via BI, MDM) across a heterogeneous landscape.

How accurate am I and what other major differences am I missing here?

-Roshan

[Former Member]

Hi,

I see discussion are more on technical side, how about on the functional differences?

Would an end user need to be trained if using from a 4.5 to ECC6?

Meaning to say in terms of functionality would there be a huge diference?

If yes what would be the big difference?

Looking forward to your feedback

Thanks

[Former Member]

Hi R T J,

This is a technical forum. Your question would be better asked in one of the ERP forums.

You may also see http://service.sap.com/erp.

Best Regards,

Matt

[Former Member]

Hi,

There are a lot of changes between SAP R/3 4.5 and ECC 6.0. The scale of the changes also relates to what areas you have implemented. As Matt mentioned you should consider a searching/posting in the SAP ERP forum on specific functional areas that you have implemented. I would also suggest you check out the SAP ERP solution composer as it can indicate to you where the changes are (compares your current implementation with SAP ERP 6.0). You can find this from the SAP ERP page on the SAP Service Marketplace (http://service.sap.com/ERP).

I hope this helps,

Mike.

[Former Member]

HI all,

4.7ee is a cin(country india) version.

Ecc 5.0& 6.0 are integrated with the specific purpose ledger and also come under the new G/L accounts.

but this is for FI/CO.

regards,

shanmuka.

[Former Member]

Hi,

R/3 4.7 is only for India !

Someone should have told us ! Because, here in France, we've been using it for 4 years without any business relation with India....

Regards,

Olivier

[Former Member]

Yes, I must emphasize what Oliver is saying here....there may be country versions of 4.7, but 4.7 is certainly not for India only! It has been used around the world for years!

Shanmuka, can you clarify what you mean? "4.7ee is a cin(country india) version" is inaccurate.

Best Regards,

Matt

[Former Member]

Hi,

Wow, you asked a lot of questions. I'll trty to point you in the right direction:

1. SAP NetWeaver is SAP's technology platform. It has all of SAP's technology in it. It is used to build and run SAP Applications and customer applications (Application server, data warehouse, portal, coding, messaging, etc). You can find more information on the SAP NetWeaver page on the SAP Service Marketplace (http://service.sap.com/netweaver). Of course they is also in on the SAP NetWeaver page in SDN.

2. ABAP is part of SAP NetWeaver. BW is part of SAP NetWeaver (as of the 3.5 release).

3. Prior to SAP NetWeaver, BW was a seperate product. It is shipped as part of SAP NetWeaver since the SAP NetWeaver '04 release (SAP NetWeaver BI 3.5).

4. SAP ECC is part of the SAP ERP application (actually it is the minimal installation of SAP ERP). SAP ERP runs on SAP NetWeaver. So when you get SAP ERP you get SAP NetWeaver.

- SAP ECC 5.0 is part of SAP ERP 2004 [which runs on SAP NetWeaver '04]

- SAP ECC 6.0 is part of SAP ERP 6.0 (2005) [which runs on SAP NetWeaver 7.0 (2004s)]

5. SAP NetWeaver is delivered with SAP ERP so ABAP and the functional modules are include in SAP ERP.

6. With SAP ERP (SAP ECC) you have a choice of activating BI within the SAP ERP system or deploying in a seperate system. This is information is in the SAP ERP master guides which can be found at http://service.sap.com/instguides.

For SAP ERP 6.0 (ECC 6.0) it will the SAP NetWeaver 7.0 version of BI.

I hope this helps,

Mike.

[Former Member]

Dear Michael

Thank you for clearing this.

It still is not clear to me, if ECC 6.0 is running on the Java stack or not.

Could you run ECC 6.0 without installing the ABAP stack?

If not, are there any parts of ECC 6.0 which in fact are running on the Java stack?

Many thanks for your answer.

Kind Regards

John

[Former Member]

Hi John,

ECC 6.0 is the core part of SAP ERP and requires the ABAP stack. It cannot run on the Java stack alone. There are certain application scenarios in SAP ERP that also require the Java stack.

Best Regards,

Matt

[Former Member]

Hi ,

I was trying to find if i could install ECC5.0 and the add-in XI 3.0 and EP as components?

and how about PI and BI 7 can they be part of ECC5?

Thanks,

M S

[Former Member]

Hi M S,

For installing XI and EP you need to follow the SAP NetWeaver installation guide. If you want to use XI and EP from within your ERP system then consult SAP note 855534. It has all the info you need.

https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/oss_notes/sdn_oss_bc_ins/~...

Cheers,

Mike.

[Former Member]

Great . That's wonderful.

Cheers..