Consignment - pick up

[Former Member]

Hi

I wanted to understand why do we configure schedule line of consignment pick up to check the system for

item relevant for delivery

TOR

Availibilty

Thanks

[former_member211616 · Accepted solution]

Hi Abhishek ,

Because you are getting the material in to ur warehouse stock so , for that you have to have the Schedule line in place

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Thanks experts for replies

Still I am not completely clear below....please note below

Relevant for delivery - this is done for transferring stock from consignment stock to our stock

TOR -

The transfer of requirements informs production that goods must be

produced, or advises purchasing that purchase requisitions have been created for which

purchase orders must be created and sent to the suppliers. An availability check can only

be carried out if these requirements are transferred.

I dont understand why is above required as TOR and availibity check must only be done in case of Order and deliveries to customer.

however consignment pick up thing is internal stock being transferred from consigmnet stock to our stock???

Thanks again for explaining

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

"TOR and availibity check must only be done in case of Order and deliveries to customer."

TOR and Av check is not only applicable for deliveries to customers, it is applicable for checking stock from the starting point (in case of Pick Up, checking the availability of stock in the Consignment warehouse).

Jignesh has explained this point very clearly in his post. Please read it.

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi TW

As you might already know hows TOR and availability works..

TOR informs productions department that we have an order from customer and required goods need to be produced then availability check will be carried out.

why is above required when we are just transferring goods from consignment to our stock????

In other words why we are bothered about informing production department that we are transferring goods from consignment stock...... doesn't make sense to me....

Thanks

[jignesh_mehta3 · Accepted solution]

Hello Abhi,

TOR does not mean only Transferring Requirements to Production Department.

Also Availability Check does not mean only checking the Stock that is lying in your Plant.

Try to understand a Sales Order (normal or Consignment Pick-up). A Sales Order basically needs a confirmation that the Required Stock is available or will be available by a particular date.

SD Module in itself cannot check / confirm stock. Thus it has to Transfer the Requirements to other Modules for checking the Availability of Stock.

Also what do you mean by Consignment Pick-Up? Taking the Stock lying at your Consignee back in your Plant. Now while creating How will you Check whether Stock is actually lying at Consignee's place? Thus when you create Consignment Pick-Up Order, system does TOR & Availability Check & tries to confirm the Stock. If the Stock is not lying at Consignee's Place, system will not confirm the Stock & you cannot Post Goods Receipts for this stock, which is absolutely correct.

Hope  this clarifies,

Thanks,

Jignesh Mehta

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

I understand your point of -

We might need "Availability check" to know if there is stock available in the customer warehouse but why do we need to "Transfer the requirements"?

One way would be to test -

In your schedule line category (PickUp) activate "Availability check", donot activate TOR. See if there is any issue faced with checking the availability.

BTW, below sentence is from SAP help, Page 7, link of the document provided below - 

"An availability check can only

be carried out if these requirements are transferred."

http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/print46c/en/data/pdf/SDBFAC/SDBFAC.pdf

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi Jignesh,

Jignesh Mehta wrote:
Hello Abhi, 
TOR does not mean only Transferring Requirements to Production Department. 
Also Availability Check does not mean only checking the Stock that is lying in your Plant. 

Though I am not an expert in Availability check and TOR...as per my understanding....It does mean that TOR is transferring requirements and Av check is checking stock availability.

When we create a sales order...the order quantity cannot be treated as a requirement until the order is saved. The availability check happens before saving the sales order BUT the requirements will be transferred only after saving the sales order. This is my understanding. Correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,

Ravi Sankar

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Jignesh "SD Module in itself cannot check / confirm stock. Thus it has to Transfer the Requirements to other Modules for checking the Availability of Stock."

Abhishek,

Your question about Why to check TOR, in the Consignment Pick Up is valid. Furthermore Jignesh, I think your above sentence is incorrect in relation to Consignment Pick up process.

As I had suggested you to tests, in my previous post; I have tested PickUp process, with schedule line category ZF (copy of F0 with field Availability check is active, TOR or Req/Assembly is blank). With these settings the CP order is checked perfectly for availability of stock - in the customer warehouse.

Please check and comment.

Ravi,

Thank you for your post!

[jignesh_mehta3]

Hello,

Consignment Pick-up is done in tow cases:

1. There is un-sold stock lying with Consignee & you want to take it back in your possession.

2. There are some Returns from end-Customer & these defective goods are lying at your Consignee's warehouse.

In both the above scenarios, the pre-requisite is the Stock (to be taken back by you) should be existing in your system as Consignment Stock lying at Consignee's warehouse.

Thus when generating Consignment Pick-Up Order, what system does is try to confirn whether the Required Stock is indeed lying at Consignee's Warehouse. Thus the Consignment Schedule LIne Category (F1) is marked relevant for Req/Assembly & Availability

Also you have to execute Returns Delivery to take the Stock Back in your possession thus the Consignment Pick-Up Item & Schedule LIne is marked as Item Relevant for Delivery

If you do not want TOR & Availability Check then you can use Schedule LIne Category F2.

Hope this helps,

Thanks,

Jignesh Mehta

[Former Member]

"If you do not want TOR & Availability Check then you can use Schedule LIne Category F2."

In Consignment Pick Up process if TOR and Availability is not required then - in standard SAP - schedule line category F0 is to be used. (not F2)

Two reasons / points of confirmation -

1. Movement type: In F2 movement type is not 632. In F0 and F1 the movement type is 632. This is in sync with movement type in E0 and E1 (i.e. 631) used in Consignment Fill Up process

2. VOV5: For item category KAN, ND (no planning) - F0 is configured / assigned

[Former Member]

We configure schedule line category for Consignment Pick Up process for two mandatory reasons -

1) So that we can have delivery process. This is configured by field "Item relevant for delivery"

2) So that we can "direct" the system with regards to inventory management (i.e. where the stock should be put - in Unrestricted, or restricted etc. areas in our plant, stock coming from the customer warehouse). This is configured by field "Movement type"

Optional reasons -

Availability check and Transfer of requirements

In standard SAP check in VOV6, schedule line categories F0 and F1

Furthermore, you can test, by activating and deactiving fields in your schedule line category, then creating Pick up orders and observing the differences. This exercise might help you to understand and retain things for a longer time.