Batch Derivation Application

[#1]

Hi PP Gurus,

Can anyone please tell me what is exact usage of Batch Derivation?

In which Business Process it is used generally?

What Impact it has on the Batch Determination in process/producrtion order?

Thanks, in Advance.

[Former Member]

Hi,

You need to set folowing steps in configuration

1) Activate Batch Derivation

2) Define the Derivation events--In this step, you assign search procedures to the derivation time points.

The system does not start derivation at this time point until a procedure has been assigned for searching for attributes for the receiving batch and the sending batches

3)Define Condition Tables to Determine Receiving Batches

In this step, you define condition tables to search for attributes for receiving batches.

4)Define Condition Tables to Determine Sending Batches

In this step, you define condition tables to search for attributes for sending batches.

5)Define Access Sequences to Determine Receiving Batches

In this step, you define access sequences to search for attributes for receiving batches.

6)Define Access Sequences to Determine Sending Batches

In this step, you define access sequences to search for attributes for sending batches.

7)Define Strategy Types to Determine Receiving Batches

In this step, you define strategy types to search for attributes for receiving batches.

8)Define Strategy Types to Determine Sending Batches

In this step, you define strategy types to search for attributes for sending batches.

9)Define Search Procedures to Determine Receiving Batches

In this step, you define search procedures to search for attributes for receiving batches.

10) Define Search Procedures to Determine Sending Batches

In this step, you define search procedures to search for attributes for sending batches.

A search procedure includes all strategy types that can be used at a particular derivation time point.

Following steps TO mantained at Transaction/ master data level

1) Recipient condition records --DVR1

2)Sender Condition Records --DVS1

Thanks,

Rajanikanth

[Former Member]

Hi Rajanikanth,

Thanks for your big reply

I have done all the above config and maintained the condition records in DVR1 and DVS1 as you said but the characteristics values are not coppying from sender batch to the receiver when I am receiving the goods with MFBF transaction and sending and receiving materials are QM managed.Can you guide me where the problem is exactly.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Hi ALL

Any inputs please

Best Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Any inputs please

Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Hi Katta,

Have you maintained the attributes and rules for the Receiver and the sender material, the attribute specifies which character value is to be transferred from sender to receiver material.

Regarda,

Naveen.

[Former Member]

Hi naveen

Thanks for your reply and I have maintained the attributes and rules for sender and receiver material and

I had moved little bit forward by changing the derivation event 400 type from Dynamic to Static.

I am able to see the classification values in DVMO transaction but I am unable to see the classification values in stock overview with MMBE.can you guide me where the problem is to see the classification values in MMBE as well.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Hi Naveen

Thanks for your reply

I have maintained the attributes and rules for the sender and receiver material type as well in transaction DVR1 and DVS1 and

I had moved little bit forward by changing the derivation event 400 type from Dynamic to Static.

I am able to see the classification values in DVMO transaction but I am unable to see the classification values in stock overview with MMBE.can you guide me where the problem is whether is in config or condition records maintnance to see the classification values in MMBE as well.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Any inputs please

Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Hi Naveen

Thanks for your reply I have maintained the condition records for the sender material type and Receiver material type

In DVR1 I have taken material type as a key combination in DVS1 I have taken Receiving material type + sending material type as key combination and maintained the characteristic as attributes and I am able to see the batch derivation in DVMO for receiver batch but in MMBE stck for the receiver batch stock batch classification is howing as a blank value for all characteristics.

My receiver material and sender materials are QM managed is that the reason? Can you guide me how to find the derived batch classification values in MMBE stock overview or MSC3N.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards

Katta

[Former Member]

Hi,

For the configuration Guide details of Batch Derivation, please go through the pharma vertical Industry package in SAP Help.

Please follow the link:

http://help.sap.com/bp_pharmav1600/Pharma_US/index.htm

Regards,

Kaushik

[Former Member]

Dear swap_khodke

you find all information in documentation, start here:

http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/35/7b723c4356d068e10000000a114084/frameset.htm

BR Sabine

[Former Member]

Hi,

Actually I have seen that Link but I want to if we do the configuration for Batch Derivation what exact effect it has on

Process/Production Order?

One effect is that what Batch No.you will assign to SFG, the same is used for the Batch of FG Material, am i right?

What are the other effects?

Plz Reply,

Regards,

Swapnil.

[dhaval_choksi3]

Hey,

One effect is that what Batch No.you will assign to SFG, the same is used for the Batch of FG
 Material, am i right?

No no, its not correct.

Batch Derivation is used to transport Batch Characteristic value of Component Batch to the same Bacth Characteristic of Header Material Batch during order release or at the time of goods receipt.

For example in most cases Manufacturing Date of semi finished Materials Batch is also called as Manufacturing date of Finished materials Batch.

So to transport Manufacturing date of Halb's Batch to Finished Materials Batch, Batch Derivation is used.

Regards,

Dhaval

[Former Member]

Thanks,

Means whatever the chararcterstics we are assigning to Component it will get transferred to the FG?

Can we transfer the selcted characterstic to FG from SFG that we only need according to our Requirment?

Thanks in Advance....

[dhaval_choksi3]

Dear,

No, not values of all characteristic of Component Batch are transferred to FG Batch.

Only Values of Characteristic which u have selected in Derivation sender Record (DVS1) and Derivation Recipient Record (DVR1) is gets transferred during Derivation.

Regards,

Dhaval

[Former Member]

Hi All

I am facing the same problem.I have done all config and I unable to transfer the classification values from sender batch to receiver batch.Can anybody guide me how to solve the above problem.

Best regards'

Katta

[Former Member]

Hi,

Just check once you put strategy you get 2 options so select 1st option Receiving mater+sending mater

Regards

SANIL

[Former Member]

Hi Sanil

Thanks for your reply and can you explain in detail becuase I am new to this process

Best regards

Katta