SAP Smart Data Streaming

[former_member777815]

With SAP ERP ABAP NetWeaver, if we migrate from Oracle DB to Hana DB, can we install/integrate SAP Smart Data Streaming(SDS)? Or should we have as well S4 Hana?

Or the SDS adapters sufficient to connect to Apache Kafka broker? Or do we need any Kafka adapters for eg. confluent?

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[former_member777815]

Hi

Could we have SAP Streaming Analytics only if we buy SAP HANA Large Enterprise? I understand the Large Enterprise is a costly license model. Is a SAP HANA DB not sufficient to obtain Streaming Analytics license

How else can we connect to Kafka from SAP ERP? Is SAP PO the only possibility to get a SAP standard Kafka adapter ?

Thanks

[RobertWaywell]

Can you provide more information on what you are trying to accomplish? Are you trying to publish event data out of your ERP system to a Kafka topic/queue?

[former_member777815]

Hi Robert

I was in vacation and could'nt reply you soon.

We want currently to connect to our Kafka Platform and query/analyze some topics only.

(Perhaps in the long run, we may want to publish also data to a Kafka topic.)

Cannot SAP Streaming Analytics and the Kafka Adapters be bought with Hana DB OnPrem?

SAP Hana DB - 8 Tiers OnPrem costs us CHF 1'043'136 and additionally 17% for maintenance which is huge for us.

What approximately are the license costs for SAP Streaming Analytics and Kafka Adapter additionally?

What are the SAP technology options for our requirement to query Kafka topic currently from from our SAP ERP System?

We have currently only SAP ERP ABAP with Oracle DB without SAP PO. We have so far avoided SAP PO as we don't need most of it's vast feature list and as it would require additional know-how & staffing.

Many Thanks

Kind regards

[RobertWaywell]

Licensing questions need to go to your SAP Account Team.

From a technical perspective, you could potentially use HANA streaming analytics to consume events from a Kafka topic and insert them into a table in the HANA DB. The benefit of using HANA streaming analytics would be that it already provides both the Kafka input adapter and the HANA output adapter. However the real value of HANA streaming analytics is to perform real time analytics on data in motion - processing and analyzing the data as fast as you can consume it from the Kafka topic and before it even reaches the database.

From what you have described so far, it sounds like you're requirement is to ingest the data from Kafka into a database - and possibly directly to the Oracle DB. I'm not seeing any requirements to to implement a streaming analytics use case. Rather than purchasing and implementing HANA streaming analytics you could write your own Kafka consumer to read from the Kafka topic and execute the inserts into the DB.

You might also want to look at Data Intelligence which also provides Kafka adapters.

[former_member777815]

Thanks for the fast response. We want to read/analyze Kafka topic when the customer calls a SAP ERP rest service. Based on the results, the customer will get a response. We are not just storing in DB.

SAP S4 with HANA DB was in the pipeline for us. So we wanted to migrate to HANA DB beforehand so that we could use Streaming Analytics. Now we postponed it to get it perhaps with SAP Rise later when we are prepared for cloud. Yes, we are in touch with SAP Accounting for licensing.

Our own Kafka consumer means non standard solution with extra development and maintenance efforts which is neither the preferred way.

SAP data intelligence with our existing SAP ERP? How could we compare it with SAP PO regarding licensing+support costs and maintenance efforts?

[RobertWaywell]

HANA streaming analytics is a HANA component, so no there is no dependency on S/4.

HANA streaming analytics also provides input and output adapters for Kafka.

https://help.sap.com/viewer/52acc1f6b1d7428caab280d193c820f6/2.0.04/en-US/0d987463c09445b7a48c1b84e1...