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Phantom Assembly Req

07-18-2007 7:35 AM
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Dear Gurus,

I am having 1 Prdod Order with 2 phantom Assembly.

But system is showing Requirement of 1 Phantom Assembly in md04 .

what could be the reason ??

Ishwar

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Former Member
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Ishwar,

Is sufficent stock of the components of Phantom assembly is available. As you should be aware phantom assemblies are not stocked the dependedt requiremsts are only planned through Phantom assembly. if the stocks for the BoM items are already available then planned orders for these dependednt requirements will not be generated.

In whole thread I am not sure what your original probelm was. Is it that the dependednt requirements are not shown or planned orders are not created for the dependednt requirements. If it is planned orders are not created then what I said is valid.

Regards

Ram

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Dear Gurus,

I will get back to you after doing & checking everything once again as per ur reply.

Thanks & regards,

Ishwar

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Hi,

Check MRP type also,

Regards,

Suhas

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Suhas,

What way MRP type affects in this scenario?

Ishwar,

Are you sure that the requirement is from the production order which was created or <b>does this phantom assembly has got its own demand..... if it has got PIR on its own then Planned orders are created..please check this point</b>

Regards,

Prasobh

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Dear Prasobh,

the requirement is from the production order which was created.

Ishwar

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Dear Ishwar,

<b>Please check the BOM status</b> ,for the phantom assembly to which

requirements are not getting generated.

Please check this and work around.

Regards

Mangal

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Ishwar,

Check in MRP4 view :

1) If Discontinuation Ind is set. If st remove it.

2) If MRP dep requirements value is set as 1. If yes remove it.

Are you using BoM change number effectivity ?

regards

Ram

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Dear Ramanujan ,

Both ind are not set.

No i am not using BOM change no effectivity.

Ishwar

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Dear Mr.Ishwar,

For the Phantom Assembly for which the requirements are not getting

<b>generated,please check the BOM status in header.</b>

Regards

Mangal

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Hi Ishwar,

You can go for special procurement 50 - phantom assy in MRP-2 view.

And check whether the Explosion type is set to 02-Switch off Phatom assembly in Basic data for BOM item details.

Hope the information is useful.

Thanks and regards

Murugesan

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MURUGESAN THANGATHURAI

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Ishwar,

You need to check the BOM of the material for which production order was created. In the BOM item level details - Basic data tab make the "Explosion type" field blank, and also see that "Phantom Item" check box is activated. This details you need to check for the Phantom assembly component against which requirement is created.

Regards,

Prasobh

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Dear Mr.Ishwar,

Along with the fantastic answer given by Mr.Nandha,

1.IF in your header material say X present 2 HALB's of E 50 type say X1 & X2.

2.X1 & X2 has got individual BOM's with raw materails say A1 & A2 respectively,

then if you create a production order for X then in the requirements branch tree

you can see the requirements will be planned directly to the child item's that's A1,A2.

Since you are saying requirements are showing for 1 assembly alone means ,do u mean to say for the other phantom assembly ,you are not able to see any requirements?or what's the exact problem?

Check with the material master settings and revert to us.

Regards

Mangal

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Bom Explosion With Phantom Assemblies:

1. You need to maintain the special procurement key for the phantom Assembly

in the MRP 2 View of the material master

2. If a Bom item is a phantom assembly , the dependent reqmts of the higher

level assembly are directly passed to the components of the phantom

assembly skipping the phantom assembly.

3. Planned orders/ Purchase requisitions are created for the components of the

phantom assembly.

4. We can override the Phantom Assembly Setting by defining in SPRO --->

Define Explosion Types so that MRP Creates Procurement Propasals for the

Phantom Assembly itself.

ie We can Swith off the Phantom Assembly Settings.

This settting need to be defined in the BOM Item details screen in the Basic

Data Tab Page under MRP Area.

So check in your Bom whether switch off phantom assembly is defined.

Regards,

nandha

Former Member
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Special procurement 50 & switch off phantom assembly is not ticked

Still for Phantom Assembly its showing requirement.

Any other reason...

Former Member
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Ishwar,

Is it requirements or reservations? In case of production orders this should be reservation not requirements. I think you might have changes special procurement type after creating production orders.

Please re-run the MRP for the header part with planning mode 3 from MD02. And check. Also check whether you have define in special procurement type in BOM item data like 60.

you can run MRP in simulation mode to verify this if do not want any new updates.

Please revert us after MRP run.

Regards

TAJUDDIN

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Dear ,

Its generating requirement for Phantom Assembly .

All other settings for Phantom Assembly are mantain "Explosion type" field blank, and also that "Phantom Item" check box is activated. For 1 phantom assembly it is showing as requirement & for other one its not .

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Ishwar A Jamgaonkar

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Have you run MRP for the for the header with planning mode 3. Re-run MRP and revert us, If still requirements comes then we can think from other angle.

Regards

TAJUDDIN

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Ishwar,

Please check in the order components overview and let us know if the phantom item check box is activated for both the Phantom assembly you are taking about.

Regards,

Prasobh

Former Member
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Dear Prasobh ,

Phantom Item Check Box is Activated

Ishwar

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Ishwar,

I would suggest you to manually delete the planned order and then run MRP for the Phantom assembly and let us know how it goes. Also you have not mentioned whether this materail has got a PIR on its own.

Regards,

Prasobh

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Dear Taj,

I have re-run the mrp for header with planning mode 3.

still requirement is coming for 1 Phantom Assembly.

Regards,

Ishwar