USERCLONE Idoc without CUA activated

[Former Member]

Hello everybody,

I've been asked by the customer to answer to this question: can USERCLONE Idocs be generated on ABAP stack without activating CUA on such stack, or is it mandatory to have CUA up and running?

In any case, could you please point me to a documentation where it is stated?

Thank you very much in advance

Marco Baiocco

[Former Member]

Hello everybody,

I've been asked by the customer to answer to this question: can USERCLONE Idocs be generated on ABAP stack without activating CUA on such stack, or is it mandatory to have CUA up and running?

In any case, could you please point me to a documentation where it is stated?

Thank you very much in advance

Marco Baiocco

[Former Member]

When you activate CUA, certain system table entries gets generated which are checked during user management. IDOCs are created due to entries in these tables. If you dont activate CUA, these checks will fail and IDOCs will not be generated.

Without CUA, if you want to use same functionality then you will have to populate values in these IDOCs either thru exist or programs and then based on your partner profiles it will generate IDOCs.

[Former Member]

Hello and thanks for your prompt answer.

I believe you meant: "Without CUA, if you want to use same functionality then you will have to populate values in these TABLES" (instead of IDOCs)?

However, you are saying that it is technically possible to create USERCLONE Idocs without having CUA activated, but you need to take care of table filling on your own (manually or with a custom program)?

If so, which are the tables that need to be filled, or where could I find related documentation?

[Former Member]

When you activate CUA, SAP creates distribution model, partner profiles, CUA activation indicators etc. When you do User management, SAP checks whether CUA is active then it will find out distribution model, partner profiles etc and create IDOCs. If you do all these then IDOCs will be generated automatically. Alternatively, you define your own model by defining partner profiles etc and then use User Management events (create, change etc) to generated IDOC with your own programs.

If you are not activating CUA then i guess second method will be preferable as you are not messing with SAP tables.

I dont have table names but if you check SU01 etc the you will find some FMs which checks for CUA.

[Former Member]

Okay, thank you for helping, I'll try to make good use of the information.

Best regards

Marco