Mini SAP

[Former Member]

I was just wondering if anyone new if the 'Mini SAP' installation which comes free with the objects book requires a connection to and existing SAP system or if it is a standalone application. I.e could i run it on my home PC without any external connection.

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[gregorw]

The Mini SAP is a standalone system. Only Basis is included. You don't have any buissines application like SD, MM, FI or CO in it. But you can connect to other SAP Systems with RFC.

Regards

Gregor

[Former Member]

so would i be able to develop ABAP programs, and syntax check them? without being connected to any SAP system

[Peter_Inotai]

MiniSAP 6.10 & 6.20 system is a SAP server, which would run on your PC and you can logon/connect with SAPGUI (also installed in your PC) and you can develop SAP programs and do almost the same thing as you would do in case of normal SAP system.

In case of MiniWAS 6.30 & 6.40 only the Java engine delivered so you cannot test ABAP programs.

Incho

Ps: This site gives you an overview, what you can expect:

http://www.geocities.com/incho_master/MiniWAS.htm

[Former Member]

cool, thanks for the info

[Former Member]

As long as you do a PURE ABAP coding without accessing any tables that are not there in MiniSAP .. then you're OK.

[Former Member]

so would i not be able to code a select statement form say the EKKO table and syntax check it ok. Also can i create Z tables within MiniSAP?

[Peter_Inotai]

Yes, you can create Z tables in minisap.

Although the R/3 module tables are not available in Minisap, you have the full Flight training "module", where you can get familiar with ABAP concepts...eg you want to learn the concept of persistent class: you create a class/program for table SFLIGHT and you can see how it works...later in your R/3 system you can do the same for other table like EKKO if you like.

In minisap you can play around freely...

Incho

[Former Member]

Peter, I found the " http://www.geocities.com/incho_master/MiniWAS.htm " very useful, thanks a million. Quick question, why is it that you have to extend your license? Also, when you install miniSAP WAS 6.10, you get a trial copy of MS SQL, how do I see how much space of that trial copy I am using and how do I make the maximum size larger if possible? Please advise..

[Peter_Inotai]

> Peter, I found the "

> http://www.geocities.com/incho_master/MiniWAS.htm "

> very useful, thanks a million.

Your welcome.

> Quick question, why

> is it that you have to extend your license?

Because it's a trial version and valid for 90 days, so you have to refresh it after every 90 days. Fortunately it's free.

> Also,

> when you install miniSAP WAS 6.10, you get a trial

> copy of MS SQL,

No. It's coming with SAPDB database.

> how do I see how much space of that

> trial copy I am using and how do I make the maximum

> size larger if possible?

You can enlarge the dafault DB with adding an extra datafile. If it's full you cannot extend it. I think the available space is more than enough, since in Minisap you don't generate too much transactional data, mainly repository objects, which don't need as much space as transactional data.

Hope helps.

Incho

[Former Member]

I found myself a little confused with the wording of Incho's reply about being able to enlarge but not extend the miniSAP database. Though I think I get what was meant, others might not so I thought I'd post a follow-up.

With respect to the MBS 4.6D minisap system, this database utilises MSDE. MSDE is essentially Microsoft SQL Server with various constraints, most notably that the database size may not exceed 2GB. When you install MBS, you'll find the database is already at about 1.8GB. To my knowledge, there is little that can be done about that.

The later minisap systems that include the ABAP engine are WA1 (Web Application Server 6.10) and BSP (WAS 6.20). Both of these use SAP DB rather than MSDE.

The SAP DB databases can be made bigger as required by adding additional data volumes. To do this, you'll need to install the SAP DB database manager, as outlined in Incho's useful page, mentioned elsewhere in this topic. Once installed, connect to the SAP DB database, go to the configuration section, click on volumes and then add a new volume. Fairly straight forward to understand once you're there.

BTW, I love step 114.

Scott

[Former Member]

Scott and Incho, you are both great help. I was confused on what my WAS 6.10 MINISAP version came with, either MSDE(MS SQL server) or SAP DB, when I installed MINISAP WAS 6.10 an icon on my systray started showing up to start or stop the SQL service on windows XP, perhaps that threw me for a loop thinking it came with MS SQL and not SAP DB, either way I'll try to extend the DB to make sure it does come with SAP DB.

Thank you all

[Former Member]

Hi all!

Thank you for all the info about MiniSAP/MiniWAS.

Now i'd like to know how can i get it.

where can i buy the CD?

can i download it from internet?, is there any free trial version?

Thank you!!!

[Peter_Inotai]

You can order MiniWAS 6.10 / 6.20 (ABAP Stack) from here

http://www.sap.com/company/shop/

-> SAP Knowledge Shop

-> General -> SAP NetWeaver -> WAS

WAS 6.30 and 6.40 is also available, but they contain only the Java stack.

Incho

[Former Member]

Ok, thank you Peter!

Ariel.

[Former Member]

I have installed MINISAP 4.6D and not WAS 6.10 as I had stated in my previous post. Whenever I try to edit any of the repository objects that come with it, such as the examples noted in the book ABAP OBJECTS, I get a message telling me I can not change them. Anybody know why/how may I change these? I've created a new development class and copied them in order to edit them, this has been the only work around.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Francisco

[gregorw]

Hello,

you have to copy the object to begin with a Y or Z. Than you can edit it.

Regards

Gregor

[Former Member]

Hi Francisco,

Could you please help me installing mini sap 6.1.

I have received the following error while installing under Xp Pro.

start package for release dependent database software

-

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collecting data finished...

dependent path: \sapdb\WA1\db

node: ravi

cannot create /sapdb/WA1

cannot create dependent path "\sapdb\WA1\db"

installation exited abnormally at Fr, Aug 06, 2004 at 13:06:42

ERROR 2004-08-06 13:06:42 SAPDBINSTALL_IND_ADA ExecuteCheck:0

Exit code from D:\sapdb\NT\I386\sdbinst.exe: 1.

ERROR 2004-08-06 13:06:42 SAPDBINSTALL_IND_ADA InternalInstallationDo:0

Phase failed.

ERROR 2004-08-06 13:06:42 SAPDBINSTALL_IND_ADA InstallationDo:0

Phase failed.

ERROR 2004-08-06 13:06:42 Main

Installation aborted.

There was a problem during install.

Try to solve the problem and restart the setup with this batch.

Press any key to continue . . .

Any help is highly appreciated.

Ravi

[Former Member]

Hi,

I am trying to install Mini SAP Basis System from ABAP Objects CDs.

On running CD1 it is giving warning and Errors as follows:

Warning : EXTRACTSAPEXE InternalInstallationDo

SAPCAR returns with error 3.

Warning : CommandFileController SyFileCopy

Function CopyFile failed at location SyFileCopy-681

Warning : CommandFileController SyFileCopy

errno:5 : Access is denied.

Warning : CommandFileController SyFileCreateWithPermissions

errno:13 : Permission denied.

Warning : CommandFileController SyPermissionSet

Function SetNamedSecurityInfo() failed for F:\R3SETUP\MBS.R3S

at location SyPermissionSet-2484

Warning : CommandFileController SyPermissionSet

errno : 5 : Access is denied.

Warning : EXTRACTSAPEXE InetnalInstallationDo

SAPCAR returns with error3.

Error : CommandFileController StoreMasterTable From CommandFile

CommandFile could not be opened

Error : CommandFileController SetKeytableForSect

CommandFile could not be updated

On Clicking the SwitchView button it shows -

---

Currently There is no R3SETUP connected to this wizard.Please start R3SETUP on your target machine with the following options : - glocalhost:59595

Actually my system name is localhost and ip address is 127.0.0.1, and O.S. is XP.

Can anyone please tell me what these errors means and what I have to do resolve them.

Its very urgent.

[kmoore007]

This mini-sap doesn't sound too impressive nor useful. Anyone out there using it? What do you think about it?

[Former Member]

Kenneth,

It depends on what you are looking for. MINISAP targets Basis and ABAP individuals, if you are a functional consultant trying to get your hands on some IMG(Implementation Guide for R/3 Customizing) then this is not for you. I recommend you buy one of the books from SAP-PRESS if you are interested in ABAP or the technical side of R/3, such as the the ABAP objects book or ABAP objects references, they each come with MINISAP, 4.6D and WAS 610 respectively.

Francisco

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[Former Member]

Does anybody know how long does it take for SAP to facilitate me a license extension for MINISAP 4.6D? I've requested for SAP to extend my license because its been already 30 days since I installed it, I still have not receieved it from them.. its been a week since I requested it .. I thought I'd ask here before I request it again through the online form, perhaps there's a different way to request it? Any advise?

[Former Member]

The e-mail with the license key extension usually takes no more than 10 minutes to arrive.

Is it possible you entered the wrong e-mail address? Backing up a step, did you use this URL to request it?

http://www.sap.com/netweaver/minisap

(Note: URL redirects)

Scott

[Former Member]

I'm pretty sure I entered the email address correctly. Perhaps the yahoo email service was down at that time. I'll request it again, hopefully I'll get it this time, do you think I should be ok requesting it again?

I also did you the link below..

Thanks in advanced,

Francisco

[Former Member]

I have good news! I got my license finally after requesting it for the second time. I did come across a problem while installing it. I had to first set the environment for db connect to MBS. I thought I'd post something that help me fix that:

Hallo

Meine Mini SAP Lizenz ist abgelaufen und ich habe bei SAP eine

neue bezogen. Nun funktioniert das Installieren der Lizenz nicht.

saplicense -install gibt mir folgenden Fehler zrück

• SAPLICENSE (Release 46D) ERROR ***

ERROR: Can not set DbSl trace function

DETAILS: DbSlControl(DBSL_CMD_IMP_FUNS_SET)

failed with return code 20

RC-INFO: error loading dynamic

db-library - check

environment for:

dbms_type =

(e.g. /usr/sap/SID/SYS/exe/run)

Ich habe versucht die angegebenen Systemvariablen zu setzen:

dbms_type = MSSQL

DIR_LIBRARY = C:ProgrammeMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQLBinn

Wie erwartet funktioniert es natürlich nicht. Kann jemand helfen?

Mein System: Windows 2000 SP4 German, SAP-Mini 4.6D, MS SQL

8.00.194.

Danke mal im voraus

Beat

hi,

gleiches problem hatte ich gestern auch. folgender weg liefert die

lösung:

- starte das mbs system

- starte die datei dbenv.cmd im mbs-verzeichnes (z.b. c:mbs)

- starte dann saplicense -install

nun müßten die abfragen kommen

grüße

olaf

I hope your german is good, mine is non-existant and I was able to pull it off.

Good luck everyone,

Francisco

[Former Member]

I thought I'd post this here too since this thread is related to MINISAP what does it do, installation problems, etc, etc...

Ever installed MINISAP and your OBJECT list does not show up? All you get is a white box? In order to fix this here's a patch for the SAP GUI box:

--- 8< ---

Why is my object list selection window blank, when im supposed to

have two pulldown boxes

--- 8< ---

I had the same issue under WinXP Pro and posted to a SAP NNTP-NG.

Someone suggested to goto

www.sap-press.de/katalog/buecher/titel/gp/titelID-310

where you may download the GUI-patches für MiniSAP 4.6 und 6.10

which are supposed to fix this.

Didn't try that yet though, but it's sure worth a go.

Cheers,

Francisco

[Former Member]

I installed Mini Sap that came with ABAP Objects book can't see the object list in Object Navigator any one now how to fix this? Also I was able to play around enough to start a program. When I get to the part where I need to use a global class and I double click on the class name it says the class doesn't exit. How do I get the global classes?

[Former Member]

I installed Mini Sap that came with ABAP Objects book

can't see the object list in Object Navigator any one

now how to fix this? Also I was able to play around

enough to start a program. When I get to the part

where I need to use a global class and I double click

on the class name it says the class doesn't exit. How

do I get the global classes?

Dear Susan,

The link to the patch which resolves your first problem is on this same thread: I will paste it again:

Re: Mini SAP

Posted: Jun 27, 2004 8:56 PM Reply E-mail this post

I thought I'd post this here too since this thread is related to MINISAP what does it do, installation problems, etc, etc...

Ever installed MINISAP and your OBJECT list does not show up? All you get is a white box? In order to fix this here's a patch for the SAP GUI box:

--- 8< ---

Why is my object list selection window blank, when im supposed to

have two pulldown boxes

--- 8< ---

I had the same issue under WinXP Pro and posted to a SAP NNTP-NG.

Someone suggested to goto

www.sap-press.de/katalog/buecher/titel/gp/titelID-310

where you may download the GUI-patches für MiniSAP 4.6 und 6.10

which are supposed to fix this.

Didn't try that yet though, but it's sure worth a go.

Cheers,

Francisco

[Former Member]

You can also read this weblog reagarding the MiniWAS which I find to be a lot more useful than just the Mini SAP that came with the ABAP objects book.

/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/09/06/mini-me-of-webas-620