excise JV entry

[Former Member]

Dear Expert,

I am clear about the excise procedure..I searched on Internet and i come to following conclusion...

I have captured and posted part1 and part2(TO update RG23A/c register) excise in MIGO screen. I am able to display it in J1IEX.  Now I want to post to Excise JV in Tcode J1IH and selecting TR6 Challan and Utilize it in J2IUN.

As i know if i have done excise posting in MIGO which i can see in Table J_1IPART1/2. Now  I needn't to do updation in J1I5 and Extraction in J2I5. Now when I am going to Tcode J1IH and clicking on TR6 challan tab for EXcise JV entry It is displaying

Doc number -  required field    Doc no which it has generated in Part2

Doc year -        Optional          Fiscal Yr

Company code-    req              Cocd -1000   

Plant --                 Req            plant- 1000

excise group -       Req            exgrp- EG

SubT type             optional

After giving values it is taking me to new window where it is displaying (based on CIN configuration i think so).

PLA HOLD   credit

PLA AED     Dr

PLA BED     Dr

PLA SED     Dr

PLA cess     Dr

But it is not picking amount automaically. Do I need to give amount manually. If yes How can I know what value should I give?

And how to run Utilization in J2IUN?

Which step should come first then next ..during complete procedure from capturing, posting, Excise JV entry, Updation of register, extraction, Utilization To paying tax to government. 

Please Suggest me What step do I need to follow and correct me if I am wrong at any point.

Thanks in advance.

regards

Mani

[former_member182489]

Ref the doc for Cenvat Utilization.

http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-46185

ref the below for CIN understading

http://wiki.scn.sap.com/wiki/display/bpxproj/CIN+User+manuval+for+MM

[Former Member]

Thanks for your kind suggestion.

After going through the document referred by you and reading some more i come to following conclusion

which is as.

1st  scenario

I can capture excise and post in MIGO. (for MM) also in J1IEX but require updation of registers RG23A/C

  same I can do in J1IIN(for SD).

and 2nd scenario

In fb50

    pla on hold acct              debit/40

     pla interim acct clearing   credit/50

In Fb60/f-43   Invoice to tax authority

    Tax authority (as a vendor)    credit/31

     pla interim acct clearing   debit /40     

Payment to tax authority  (f-54)

     Tax authority (as a vendor)    debit/25

     Cash/bank act                    credit/50

Tr6 challan posting to update PLA register

    Pla on hold acct          credit/50

      BED           Debit

     AED            Debit

     SED            Debit

     ECess          Debit

     SCess          Debit

Then Utilization J2IUN

Please suggest me step that i should follow, and How can i link between Scenario 1st and 2nd.

Please guide me.

Thanks in advance

Mani

[Former Member]

Hi,

Firstly pls check why is the need to do a excise JV via J1IH ??

J1IH > TR6C will post to PLA directly. It will bring only the PLA accounts maintained

in tables J_1ITRNACC and J_1IEXCACC..

The system will NOT bring in any amounts automatically, you MUST enter the same manually

as per your business requirements..

Pls note that J1IH in CIN  like doing and direct FI JV. J1IH will directly hit the register balances..

Regards,

Rajasree R

[Former Member]

Thanks for replying.

   I just want to know how can I interlink Excise posted in J1IEX and J1IIN before paying excise duty on goods produce and going to sale. and how does/will it update automatically to PLA register.

How can i know what excise duty liable to pay at end of month?

How much rebate will i get for tax paid on Raw material/Capital goods I have used in manufacturing of finished goods which I am going to sale and for that I am liable to pay Tax to tax authority ?

Please suggest me, I am unable to integrate the scenario.

thanks in advance.

Mani

[former_member182489]

I will give you just an heads up on the Excise process.

Procurement Process

• PO with tax code and values in it
• GR
• J1iex(capture  and post excise )

GL is triggered from SPRO-LG-Tax on Goods mvt - Account determination

ETT Type is GRPO and GL assigned against the combination COA - Exc grp RG23A etc etc

• Accounting entry is

BED DR

Ecs DR

Sccess DR

Cenvat Credit

same Way for sales

SO with Tax values in SDPP - determined by UTXJ

• Delivery
• J1IIN

GL is triggered from SPRO-LG-Tax on Goods mvt - Account determination

ETT Type is DLFC and GL assigned against the combination COA - Exc grp RG23A etc etc

• Accounting entry is

BED CR

Ecs CR

Sccess CR

Cenvat DR

Now we do Reconciliation of the input and out Cenvat benefit  availed .

detailed process is available in the earlier link and also available in the forum.

This note is only a brief on the entire process. Let us know if any help.

fyi- J1IH is for a manual entry - simply to correct an excise posting manually.

regards

Manu

[Former Member]

Thanks for your kind suggestion.

After going through the document referred by you and reading some more i come to following conclusion

which is as.

1st  scenario

I can capture excise and post in MIGO. (for MM) also in J1IEX but require updation of registers RG23A/C

As you have suggested it is triggering

GL is triggered from SPRO-LG-Tax on Goods mvt - Account determination

ETT Type is GRPO and GL assigned against the combination COA - Exc grp RG23A etc etc

• Accounting entry is

BED DREcs DRSccess DRCenvat Credit same I can do in J1IIN(for SD).

• Accounting entry is

BED CR

Ecs CR

Sccess CR

Cenvat DR

How we do Reconciliation of the input and out Cenvat benefit  availed ?

If  J1ih is for manual posting, so what is the way to auto matic posting?

and 2nd scenario

In fb50

    pla on hold acct              debit/40

    pla interim acct clearing   credit/50

In Fb60/f-43   Invoice to tax authority

    Tax authority (as a vendor)    credit/31

    pla interim acct clearing   debit /40    

Payment to tax authority  (f-54)

     Tax authority (as a vendor)    debit/25

     Cash/bank act                    credit/50

Tr6 challan posting to update PLA register

   Pla on hold acct          credit/50

      BED           Debit

     AED            Debit

     SED            Debit

     ECess          Debit

     SCess          Debit

Then Utilization J2IUN

Please suggest me step that i should follow, and How can i link between Scenario 1st and 2nd.

Please guide me.

Thanks in advance

Mani

[former_member182489]

Scenario 1 is Logistics part with CIN

Scenario 2 is FI part for payment to tax authority.

I can help you on Scenario 1 .

To Your Question :How we do Reconciliation of the input and out Cenvat benefit  availed ?

Its done through T code J2IUN

I/p GL account Cr and Output GL account Dr

process :Already shared in the link .

http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-46185

regards

Manu

[Former Member]

Thanks for valuable suggestion.

I have done J1lIEX  capturing and posting in MIGO

   then        J1IIN

and Now trying to do utilization,  In the document you have suggested in that doc RG23ABED available

balance is not zero but when i am trying it is displaying zero available balance.Please check the screen shot .

Kindly suggest me which step is missing.

[former_member182489]

How you did J1IIN and Part 1@ RG1 Update ?

please elaborate .

just fyi- You need to do J1i5 and extract the registers as pre req.

use T code  J1ILN for all CIN front end t code.

[Former Member]

When I am going to tcode vf03 to display billing doc>> Accounting entry

It is displaying 2 accounting entry document.

Please look at the screen shot.

This is hitting to G/l as we have done config for UTJX. So I think I have done J1IIN at the time creating billing document itself.

Please correct me if i am wrong, and tell me next step.

Thanks in advance.

[former_member182489]

Please do  J1I5 or J2I5, then check J2IUN entries

[former_member182489]

Hi Mani ,

is it working . Else not .

please close this ticket and post anew one with specific on Utilization only.

Till then its fine seems .

regards

Manu

[Former Member]

Dear Expert,

As you said I tried to update registers using tcode J1I5.

and used classification ROP. It's take me to new screen where I selected 1 entry and then i clicked on Register Entry button and that item get disappeared.

I don't know anything about classification. Can You please explain me in detail about all 'classification' and their link with RG23a/C and RG1 part1 registers.

2) I think This is not the problem, But the main problem is I am not giving suitable G/L account

in J2IUN

in following fields:

Service tax credit account

ECESS on ser tax account

SECess on ser tax account

Service tax payable account

ECS on ser payable account

SECess on ser payable account

Please correct me if I am wrong and please tell me which acct should i put here ?

If you need I can send You list of g/l account or I am attaching Screen shot which are hitting

At the time of excise posting in MIGO and In tcode VF01 - sales doc billing.

[former_member182489]

Please post this as a new Question . The subject and your first and last question may be misleading to viewers  .

plz specify with Screen shot of J21UN - what pre req need to do .ok

close this before u open a  new.