Cost Element for external material is not from Mat. profile?

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi PM Guru,

There is a weird issue that the cost elment for external material PR in PM order is different from that in the Material profile defined in Default value profile for PM external operation data.

Pls see details: (sorry for not being looked good)

1. Setting for External Profile:

2. Setting for Material Profile

3. Profile assignment against PLant + Order type

4. In order, when requesting a direct purchased material, the cost element is not 415000 provided that there is not default value setup in Order.

Please kindly me help investigate into other possibilities.

Thank you so much,

Sally

[ashish_singhal90]

Hi Sally,

System retrieves this cost element from material group and this cost element change automatically if you change this material group in purchasing data in maintenance order by choosing yes. Please refer the attached screenshot.

Also if you have not assigned any valuation class for a material group then system will fetch the cost element from the following :

In OME9 >> For account assignment category - F

And from OBYC >> GBB

Please check with your system and let me know if any further query you have.

Regards,

Ashish

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Ashish,

Thank you for the detailed explanation.

1.  OBYC -VBR  valuation Class =blank  account is maintained as the one we see in Component.

2. OMQW. no value maintained

May I ask when the account maintained in  material profile takes effect in determining the account for external material purchase?

Thank you,

Sally

[peter_atkin]

Sally,

It might be quicker if you get a developer to debug the program.

PeteA

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Pete,

There is not any development concerning the account determination in place.

Generally if we set account in the following , what is the sequence of account determination for externally purchased material without material master (no valuation class)

1. Default value in IW32/IW33

2. Material profile  in Ext. profile

3. Define valuation class against Material Group

4. OBYC- define Account for FBB adn VBR for the valuation class

Pls kindly share if there is any possiblitity for the account sequence determination.

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

Remove the Material group from the external profile assignment. Save the config.

Now again create the order and assign a non-stock to determine whether you get the cost element. Try to log off and log in or refersh after doing the config.

System behavior for Non-Stock component account determination is different from others, so its better if you contact SAP, in case you need the exact behaviour. Unless our systems belong to 4.7 it is not easy to answer your query.

May be After 4.7 or later we have got additional check in the config to make sure the data is transferred from the profile setup.

Regards

Terence

[peter_atkin]

Sally,

A developer will be able to debug the program to see when/how this value is being set.

This could be either by SAP standards coding, or by some customer-specific developments.

It may even be a bug.

PeteA

[peter_atkin]

Sally,

Check the user's default values.

In IW32/33, use menu path: Extras->Settings->Default values

PeteA

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Pete,

No setting there in the default value at order level.

Thank you,

Sally

[former_member374929]

Hi Sally,

In OMQW T code,check what valuation class is maintained against your material group (which is maintained in external processed operation) .

Then Check the OBYC settings for GBB-VBR combination. The cost element maintained here must be appearing on your order.

I think this cost element is taking precedence over your configuration for external config.

Regards,

Asheesh

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Asheesh,

1. OMQW- No valuation class is set against the material Group.

2. OBYC- No VBR.  GBB's has been posted above.

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

Is the Transfer Profile value is checked ?

Regards

Terence

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Maria,

Would you please elaborate on where the indicator lies?

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

SPRO - Plant Maintenance and Customer Service - Maintenance and Service Processing - Maintenance and Service Orders - Functions and Settings for Order types - Create default value profiles for External Procurement

For External Material

Regards

Terence

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Terence,

Thank you so much for your reply.

In my VM IDES, the version is SAP R/3 where the indicator is not available.

So, please kindly let me know if more info is needed for your diagonosis.

Thank you,

Sally

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Terence,

The component version is SAP_APPL release 470.

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

There is another possibility, it will flow from Material Valuation class. First check the Material Valuation class from Accounting 1 view

Go to OBYC - GBB - VBR - Valuation class, check whether the cost element gets populated through this way

Regards

Terence

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Terence,

This material is direct purchase without material master, hence no valuation class.

BTW, the Ext. profile works right.

Thank you,

Sally

[peter_atkin]

Sally,

Does this happen for all users, or just some?

Are the profiles shown on the Control tab of the order in IW33?

Also, check what value is in OBYC and transaction WRX.

PeteA

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Pete,

1. Yes, The profiies are shown int the control tab.

2. Screenshot for WRX

Thank you,

Sally

[peter_atkin]

Its not clear form you last response..

Does this happen for all users, or just some?

Also:

• Are you using any developments that might be defaulting this data?
• What operation control key are you using?
  

PeteA

[sallyxu-cn]

Sorry Pete,

It is an IDES I installed in Virtual Machine. 

Thank you,

Sally

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Pete,

How to check if we have development in place? pls advise.

Control key is PM02.

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

I remember you where discussing about PM02 control key earlier.

Is Service Included in PM02 ? Now the issue is related to cost element in the operation or in the material

Regards

Terence

[peter_atkin]

Sally,

Unfortunately its not easy to determine which developments are active in your system.

Mainly its a combination of SMOD and SE19.

What happens if you enter a different material group?

PeteA

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Maria,

I test to generate a Direct Purchase for component for operation with control key PM01, the G/L is still fixed.

So, it has nothing to do with the ctrl key.

Thank you,

Sally

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Pete,

Following your suggestion, I entered a different material group from the default one, the G/L account keeps same after this:

Pls kindly provide me with how to look into it.

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

Go to OMQW, corresponding to your material group, check the valuation class

Then go to OBYC - Transaction event key, Chart of accounts and check with respect to Valuation class, what is the cost element maintained.

Regards

Terence

[sallyxu-cn]

Hi Terence,

In accordance with your instruction, Here is the setting without Valuation class.

Does it precede the Material profile?

Pls kindly explain.

Thank you,

Sally

[MTerence]

Hi Sally,

As per the note, for external procured components system will determine the account assignment based on MM account determination.

308591 - Account determination for non-stock material

Regards

Terence