on 2014 May 05 7:17 AM
Dear Colleagues,
This is in reference to change the Personnel Number range intervals.
Client Requirement: To move from External Number Range to Internal Number Range.
I understand that we need to define a new number range. For e.g. In case they have used it upto 10000090 then we need to block the same upto 10000090 and define a new number range from 10000091 - 99999999.
Secondly same has to be updated against the Personnel Area in the NUMKR feature. Need more clarity as in how to go about it.
Please correct me if my understnading is wrong.
Regards,
Garima
Hi Garima Dhingra,
We should not block the number ranges.
Goto PA04 transaction here you can find the number ranges which they have already defined in the system.
If you want to make the number range as internal number range then you have to remove the tick mark on External assignment option for your number range.
Once you have removed the external assignment for that number range then system will assign the number range to the new joiness whie doing the hiring action.
Regards,
Haranath
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Hi,
Changing the present external no. range to internal no. range is not the correct way, why because in the external no. range user will take the Employee ID's in random not in continuous no's. if you change the settings now the continuous order of employee hiring will miss and system will give error that employee no. already used.
Best way is to create new series and assigned according to the client requirement.
Regards,
praneeth kumar
Hi Haranath / Praneeth,
I am not blocking the number range...what i meant here was...If client has used the personnel number upto 10000090 then we need to do the config as:-
1) 10000000 - 10000090
2) 10000091 - 99999999 - When client does the hiring the system would be generate automatically the Personnel Number from 10000091 and so on....
And we need to define the same in NUMKR as well i.e.
In the personnel number firstly we need to define the used range and then the new range.
Please correct me in case my understandding / missing on any point.
Regards,
Garima
Hi Garima,
In external no. range you can see the present no. in current number.
Create the new series and assign that to your personnel area in feature NUMKR, while hiring automatically it will take the number range of internal only.
For example, see the screen shot. Serial no. 3 is only external number range, remaining are internal number ranges and assigned to the different personnel areas.
Regards,
praneeth kumar
Hello Garima,
If you are sure you don't need anymore the external range number, then you may delimit this one. But make sure than no other applications (other than pa40) need an external range number. Otherwise you might still create an other external range if necessary.
As you said you should only define the NUMKR feature to determine which internal number range you use according to your business rules.
regards
Hadrien
Hi All,
Thank you for your timely inputs. This issuse has been resolved and i am closing the thread.
Hi Praneeth,
Thank you for your timely inputs / suggestions which led to the closure of the said thread.
Regards,
Garima
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Dear Colleagues,
I have been struggling with the said query....still not resolved need help from you all as this needs to be closed on PRIORITY pls.
I tried defining new range i.e. 10410000 - 10999999 and the current number i.e. 10401525.
and made the changes in NUMKR feature i..e define the serial no. to my company and the older one to Otherwise but still the system is asking for older range only.
Please help.
Regards,
Garima
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Hi All,
In continuation to my query i am trying to insert the number range with current number but system is not allowing and giving a message Overlap
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Hi Garima,
First you have to change the TO number in the serial no. 02 from 99999999 to 10399999
And now create new one like 03 10410000 (best option) to 99999999
If you want another series better to do like this
03 10410000 - 10499999
04 10500000 - 10599999
05 10600000 - 10699999
Best Regards.
Hi Garima,
When you are using numbers as external assignment, cross check all the used personnel numbers.
You have to sort out all the used numbers.
In your screenshot its clearly showing number range -02 has 10000000 to 99999999, meanwhile again you are creating a number range -03 with 10401526 to 99999999.
You have to check once again the usage of the numbers and then
Ex: Suppose 00001 to 00099, if you used continually till 00020 and then in middle if you used 00031 and now if you try to create a new range starts with 00021 it wont allow you. Now you have to create a new number range from 00032 to 00099, previous one you have to close with 00001 to 00031. Now you can work smoothly with out any interruption.
Regards,
Reddy
Hi All,
In continuation to my query i am trying to insert the number range with current number but system is saying no overlapping is allowed.
Please suggest.
Regards,
Garima
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Hi,
Its good to go with new number range if the end user is not sure of the PERNR provided to the employee is in sequence, else you can delimit the number and start from next number and assign the same in NUMKR to generate the number internally.
We can check the existing using search for PERNR range between 10000000(lower limit) - 99999999(upper limit) and proceed accordingly.
Thanks,
Sai
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Hi Garima,
Do No. ranges in PA04 with Internal no. range with New series and assign the Serial no. too if number range is different from one PA to another PA.
if it is different then you have to assign new serial no.'s to your specific PA in the feature NUMKR
Regards,
praneeth kumar
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