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[former_member211671]

we have scenario in our new plant where we are giving consultancy services to our customers like machine designs,as there is no material,do we have to create order through CO07 and confirm through CO11n ,we wanted to confirm only labor activities,which type of routing is used,do we need BOM for this case?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

To create the routing you need a material. Yes you can create the reference operation set through CA11 her use dummy work center for services. Assign labor activity there only. After that you can create the order through Co07 here use settlements to cost center and do the services confirmation in Co15.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

we wanted to settle order through WBS and while creating production order getting error message no. CP010 no task list, i have make settings in OPL8, routing as reference operation set type S.

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

For error message CP010

Check the setting of OPL8 for your order type and plant selection ID for routing here change the routing selection priority to S. Selection ID can created by tcode OPEB

Please refer below link,

http://scn.sap.com/thread/1563095

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[JeevanSagar · Accepted solution]

I suggest you implement customer service module, it meant to deal with scenarios like the one you mentioned in your first post, where in you create a service order for a sales order.

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

As there is no material( like only drawings), do we have to do confirmation through CO15 or co11n, we only want to book man-hours in categories like skilled,semiskilled and un-skillled, how to map this scenerio?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Confirm through CO11N so that you can book actual HRS against services like Labour on a particular work center.

Create three activity like skilled,semiskilled and un-skillled in KL01 create new parameter  for activities in OP7B You can define your own Standard value key in OP19  and assign them here. OP21 define your formula. and use in Work centers.

So in costing tab you will have three activities like skilled,semiskilled and un-skillled .

Define time for same in CA11.

And confirm same in CO11n actual HRs against activities like skilled,semiskilled and un-skillled

Hope clear to you.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member698542 · Accepted solution]

Dear Ramesh,

I feel you can use network with internal activities. Is there any constrain to use network with internal activities.

Thanks and regards

Murugesan

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

Do we need to create material master?

Do we need BOM?

In dummy work center, do we need formula parameters for capacity and scheduling or left blank?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Do we need to create material master?

Does any material consume if yes then create it if not then no need. As you have services need to be confirm.

Do we need BOM?

As we don't have header material no need of BOM. If any components are getting consume then add manually in rework order with back flsuh.

In dummy work center, do we need formula parameters for capacity and scheduling or left blank?

You can keep it blank if you want to capture the cost  only and you don't want scheduling and capacity planning.  If you  want order scheduling then please define formula and capacity over these work center.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

In control key configuration if we want to capture only costing then only we need to check only check box of costing?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Yes you can use control key with cost relevancy you can define your new key in OP00 by copying existing key like PP01. Else normal control key like PP01 can be also use in this case.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

Through co07, can we capture the costs through WBS, do we need to assign WBS element in reference operation set or only in order creation?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

You can assign at the time of order creation in settlement rule you can use like Order WBS or Cost center. If you use the WBS element as a settlement rule then you have to specify WBS element there in CO07.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

As we have to create order through co07 and as order is without material but can we create sales order without material like for services in this case and if we have to create sales order for services do we need to make material master for services and how we link sales order with production order as order is created through co07 ?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Yes you can create the service sale order too better post this concern in SD forum for more details

Please refer these links,

http://scn.sap.com/thread/757971

http://scn.sap.com/thread/427271

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

After co11n where we can find document for this services.

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Go to COOIS check the confirmation details of order. Else you can use CS module for this which has integrated services with SD module too.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

Do we need to maintain Result analysis RA key for services as there is no WIP?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

In your case it is not required.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

If We wanted to create production order from sales order co08 and we do not want BOM and routing , does this case is possible?

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

or do we need to maintain routing or ref operation set only.

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

It is not possible through CO08. In that case you need to have material with BOM and routing.

with make to order strategy.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear

what settings we have to do production order without bom?

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear

actually we are facing issue as there is no linkage between as production order without material and sales order is with material services, how we link sales order and production order in this case? or in co08 is there any configuration setting by which we create production order without BOM?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

In CO07 please use settlement to sales order SDI then assign sales order number Item there.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

dear rupesh

Please explain in detail, where to do settlement with sales order?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

In CO07 you have settlement to WBS there you can use the sales order as settlements rule SDI.

Reagrds,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

As explained by you we have Created three activity like skilled,semiskilled and un-skillled in KL01 and created new parameter  for activities in OP7B we have define our own Standard value key in OP19  and assigned parameters ,in OP21 we have define our formula. But how to make a link between activities and parameters because our work center is not displaying our new activities against parameters?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

No link are required between activities and parameters.

Parameter are assign to standard value key

Standard value parameter will be there in costing tab where you will assign activity type to parameter along with formula to calculate cost as per the timing in routing and price from KP26.

This is relationship of activity and parameter.

Hope clear to you.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

We have maintained activities price for skilled,semiskilled and unskilled 1000,500 and 100 in KP26.But when we confirm production order with 100 hrs for each activity and display WBS report then costs of activities are coming as 8333.33,4166.67,833.33, what is the reason behind this?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Please check the resource formula. Also check cost for same. In workcneter you can test the same by formula testing. Also share the screen shot of same.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear rupesh

This issue is resolved,but if we dont want to involve cost of BOM item in wbs report only we want to maintain cost of activities in wbs report, what settings we have to done?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Which report are you checking? Please share screen shot.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

We do not want to involve cost of bom items as costing team dont want to do order settlement by CO88 because there are no bom items and we have made dummy bom with stationary item and dont want to cost bom item against wbs.is it right scenerio not to do order settlement in this case?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

In that case you can remove the cost relevancy of OBM item so it will not be there in costing.

As you were working with CO07 order BOM is not required and if you use the settlements rule as sales order in that case no need to use CO88.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

how to remove cost relevancy of bom item?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

Team have changed the scenerio now we have production order through sales order co08 and bom item for services as stationary item but dont want to cost bom item how to settle production order in this scenerio agains sales order or wbs element?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Go to CS02 click on your BOM item lets say 0010 in in Status / LogText tab there would be cost relevancy indicator as X make it blank.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

We have enough stock of bom item but when we create production order the message is displaying that order has missing part logs?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear rupesh

Message no. co292

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Please check In OPJK and OPJJ setting for availability check. Also check stock is reserved for another order you will get this MMBE. IF any other order are there for same material please active TECO to that order and then do the availability check for newly created order.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

In OPJK we have availability check as 1 and 2 during order creation and order release,for material availability check box tick check material when saving order,checking rule PP,and in OPJJ

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

in OPJJ availability check as individual requirement and stock is not reserved for other orders.

Regards

Ramesh kumar

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Please share the screen shots of OPJJ, OPJK and MMBE and CO02

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

Please check scope of check OPJJ checking rule PP and checking group assign to your material master MRP 3 view.

Also go to MMBE - environment  -- Reservation for the material.

I hope you have unrestricted stock for component and production order is having sales order as assignment then you have to have customer specific stock.

Go to MB1B-mov type-411E  convert unrestricted stock to sales order stock for component and then try to create process order and availability check.

Otherwise you can use collective indicator for your component in MRP4 view  indi. colle Ind = 2.

So system will consider the unrestricted stock.

Please try the same come back.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

we are creating production order for designs against sales order if suppose a design is not as per customer requirement and we have to modify design then in that case do we have to go through co07 and we want to book activities only, do we create production order with ref. to earlier sales order with co07?

[rupesh_brahmankar3 · Accepted solution]

Dear,

You have to create rework order with reference to earlier production order with settlement rule as ORD here assign previously created production order and confirm the same.

Regards,

R.Brahmankar

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Rupesh

we want to see report of actual hours booked in production order, where to see it?

[svs_sap · Accepted solution]

Hi Ramesh,

Use COOIS transaction , select confirmation option in the List and enter your plant, order type, order if you know and there you can get actual hours confirmed for the activities of the order, select the fields appropriately in the output.

Regards,

Sharat

[former_member211671 · Accepted solution]

Dear Sharat

in coois after entering production order no. and execute , in list tab we only find Refresh,read and exit?

regards

[former_member211671]

Dear Team

Do we need to create material master?

Do we need BOM?

In dummy work center, do we need formula parameters for capacity and scheduling or left blank?

Regards

Ramesh kumar

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