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Deposit materials movement scenario in sales documents for beverage industr

Former Member
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Hello,

We want to create both incoming and outgoing deposit items in the same sales document existance with standart product items. There is going to be deposit goods receipt, deposit goods issue and product goods issue item lines in the same delivery document's goods movement data. And there is going to be incoming and outgoing deposit items and product items as well in the same biling document. Deposit items are going to be pricing related and displayed in the invoice as and value items.

I am asking that is there anyone applied the scenario above? Any difficulties or suggestions about?

Thanking you in advance.

Kind regards,

Nilüfer Çalışkan

Edited by: NILUFER CALISKAN on Jul 7, 2008 1:02 PM

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Former Member
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Hi Nilufer

Looks like this is a very old posting - have you found any solution for this? if no, may be you need to re phrase your query

cheers

Nandu

Former Member
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Hi Nandu,

Do you use or have you ever used this kind of a scenaio? Is it possible to use incoming and outgoing items in the same sales document? And is there any problem at the end of the process in practice?

Thanks,

Nilüfer

Former Member
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Hi Nilufer

would appreciate if you can provide further details - what i understand is - Sales order items as well as retuns items are required in the same order - you my have to provide me with more details about the process and then I may be able to provide some solutions if possible.

also you need to specify what you mean by deposit material and the nature of business

cheers

nandu

Former Member
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Hi Nandu,

This is a brewery, selling bear in bottles with cases or in barrels. And we want to put together those outgoing and incoming deposit items (bottles, barrels and cases) to the same standart sales order and invoce.

E.g. a sales document going to look like as in the following;

Item no material quantity item categary

10 bear 100 cases TAN

20 case 100 pieces X (outgoing itemCat.)

30 bottle 1000 pieces X (outgoing itemCat.)

40 case 80 pieces Y (incoming itemCat.)

50 bottle 800 pieces Y (incoming itemCat.)

And item category X items are going to triger posting goods issue where as Y items posting goods receipt. And all five items above are going to be displayed in the same invoice document. How does it look like? Do you see any arising problems after the scenario being used in the MM, FI entegration parts? Any consequences!?

Thanks,

Nilüfer

Former Member
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Hi Nilufer

If I am not mistaken, SAP does provide for this type of scenario - I would need to check the item categories to be used for this type of process and let you know - Since I am busy on a critical issue, I need some time to refresh my memory and will let you know ASAP.

Normally in many businessess the items would be sent through palettes and these will have to be returned back by the customer.

wait for an update ASAP - now that you have provided more details, others may now also update on your requirement.

cheers

Nandu

Former Member
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Hi Nilufer

Sorry for the delay - I was busy on some issues

SAP provides a process called Returnable Packaging - this may be of interest to you and you may possible be able to use this functionality for your process.

Please understand that you need to understand the Business Concept and the ERP Concept that SAP has built to suit / resuit your particular requirements.

I am pasting SAP Material for you and the same can also be accesed directly from the SAP Help site

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/70/a7853478616434e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm

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Returnable Packaging

Implementation Consideratio
ns

Returnable packaging consists of materials that are stored at the customer location but which remain the property of your company. The customer is only required to pay you for the returnable packaging if he does not return it to you by a specified time. Using this function you can, for example, process euro-pallets. You can also use it to resell returnable packaging to a third party. Since stocks of returnable packaging form part of your valuated stock even when they are at the customer site, you must manage them in your system.

However, stocks of returnable packaging must be

Managed separately from the rest of your stock so that you know exactly what stock is stored at the customer location

Managed separately for each customer

Inventory management treats returnable packaging as special stock in your inventory and is assigned to specific customers. This enables you to keep track of returnable packaging stock by customer.

Prerequisites

Settings in the Material Master Record

A prerequisite for returnable packaging processing is that the value LEIH (returnable packaging) is entered in the material master record on the second sales screen in the Item category group field. This entry in combination with the document type automatically determines the appropriate item category for each transaction involving the material.

Settings for the Special Stock Partner

You must define a special stock partner for processing returnable packaging when a third party is involved. This means you can manage all special stock under one partner. You might use this partner function if your customer, for example, uses a decentralized order processing system but manages returnable packaging centrally. You can also use this partner function to process returnable packaging when a carrier is involved (for example, for euro-pallets). If you want to process returnable packaging using the special stock partner, first make the settings which are described for Consignment Stock Processing.

If you want to manage returnable packaging for a carrier, for whom a vendor record already exists, you must also create a customer master record for the carrier. You are then able to assign returnable packaging stock to the carrier.

Process Flow

There are three main transactions for processing returnable packaging, all of which support separate inventory management:

Creating Returnable Packaging Shipments

Creating Returnable Packaging Pick-Up

Creating Returnable Packaging Issue

Returnable Packaging Shipments

When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions:

If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted

The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.

The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.

Returnable Packaging Pick-Up

If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:

When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customeru2019s special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customeru2019s premises.

This transaction is not relevant for billing.

Returnable Packaging Issue

In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):

The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging

The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer

The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party

As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:

When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customeru2019s special stock and your own total valuated stock.

The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.

Sales Order Types

The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:

Transaction

Sales order type

Returnable packaging pick-up

LA

Returnable packaging issue

LN

When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.

Pricing and Availability Check

Whether pricing is carried out for the individual transactions depends on the item category. The schedule line category controls the availability check and the transfer of requirements in each of the transactions. The schedule line category itself is determined by the item category and the MRP type of the material. The order types LN and LA check against returnable packaging for the relevant customer. Requirement records for returnable packaging stock are stored as individual requirements, independently of the setting in the material master record.