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Cross Company Procurement With Project Stock(Q)

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Hi, ALL,

I feel so depressed that we can not using cross companyprocurement to sovle purchasing with project stock(Q).

While creating delivery with VL10B or VL10D, the item can not be post issued because SAP can not suport the movement type 643Q.

And our business solution is very painful situation.

Please check out the screen shot of the error.

Do you have meet the same problem?

Parimal Kaujalgikar had post the same question Jun 16, 2010.

But no correct answer was replied .

Here is the question description by Parimal.

Dear Gurus,

I am running a cross company scenario through project...

Short brief of org str is as follows -

CC 1 having Plant P1 which is assembly plant

CC 2 having Plant P2 which is compnents plant.

Component plan supplies components to assembly plant for assemblying activity. BOM is maintained at the P1. BOM has an items which will be always procured from CC 2, P2. (Setting is done MM Config)

WBS element is placed at CC 1; plant P1. In this WBS Element, activity is created and BOM item is placed to generate demand.

MRP run on both plants.

CC1, P1 results -

PR is generated for BOM components; these PR are converted to PO. This PO is raised on CC2, P2.

CC2, P2 results -

PR is generated for the subsequest demand from CC1, P1. This PR is converted to PO. Goods receipt is done for this PO. Now the stock position is available at WBS but in plant P2

In entire chain of activities, WBS Element remains same (WBS corresponds to CC1; P1)

In th last step, doing outbound delivery for PO raised in CC1; P1. While doing so system is giving error delivery not supported for movement type 643 Q.

This movement type does not exists in standard SAP set up.

Request you to kindly help me in understanding -

1) How this issue can be solved

2) Wheather I am doing cross company process in correct way through project or is there any other better way to do

Awaiting for your reply.

Thanks and Regards,

Parimal

\\ But the note 92231 seems not ok.

Looking for your reply.

Best Regards,

Alex Ding

From shanghai

2013.08.13

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Hi Alex,

We have exactly this problem and it works like charm.

In your scenario, I see a basic problem.

MRP of Plant1 is send as  PO to Plant2,

Plant2 uses this information and triggers MRP at Plant2 level. This again generates PO to the supplier, gets material at Plant2 and at this point of time material is received only at Plant2 on CC2.

Now you are planning to do outbound delivery in Plant1 which doesnot have any material for the order.

The problem is that you are trying to create an OBD from Plant1 while the material is only at Plant2. Obviously it will not work.

The solution we have is as follows.

1. MRP of Plant1 is triggered as PR, which is converted into Stock transfer to Plant2 as supplying plant and Plant1 as receiving plant. Plant2 will be the vendor for this STO.

2. Now Plant2 uses this STO, triggers and MRP, gets a PR uses the PR to create PO, gets materials from suppliers and receives them in Plant2. This completes procurement cycle in Plant2

3. Now for the STO from Plant2 to Plant1, outbound delivery should be created and GI done. This will ensure that the materials from Plant2 of CC2 will be moved into Plant1 of CC1. Also as this is an intercompany scenario, you may have an invoice from CC2 to CC1 and subsequent payment.

4. Once the GI is done from Plant2, Plant 1 has to do the Goods receipt in Plant1. This can be done by creation of an inbound delivery followed by MIGO in Plant1. It should be ensured that the inbound delivery process should follow only after the outbound delivery from Plant2 for obvious reasons.

5. Now the materials are in Plant1 and you can trigger an outbound delviery from Plant1 to the customer.

This process is working fine now. The WBS element all through the process remains assigned to WBS element linked to sales order of CC1.

This will involve lot of MM and SD combined.

Hope this helps. Let me know if it helps.

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Hi Navaneetha Krishnan,

Thank you for your fast reply! It is helpful , but it can not solve my problem.

"The problem is that you are trying to create an OBD from Plant1 while the material is only at Plant2. Obviously it will not work"

  as you said is not my problem.

  1. Just as you said, I used STO(inter-company) to transfer my project requirement from Plant1 To Plant2.
  2. After running MRP, we can find the project requirement( plan order) in Plant2. And we can transfer plan order to production order in Plant2.
  3. After finishing production in Plant2, we can get the project stock in Plant2.
  4. I need to transfer this project stock from Plant2 to Plant1 through the delivery(NLCC) which created from the STO.And the delivery plant is Plant2.


The problem I meet is that we can not post issue the delivery.Because SAP can not support the movement type 643 Q.

Alex Ding

From shanghai

2013.08.13


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Active Contributor
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Hi,

In that case, I have to find this out.

I feel you will get better replies for this case, if you post this in MM forum.

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Navaneetha

You can use Ehp5 Business Function LOG_MM_SIT (Stock In Transit) to have CC STO with Q-stock. This Business Function has provided new cross company movement type 681/683/585 which supports Q-stock. Refer SAP Note 1596031.

Thanks & Regards

Vinod Ramchandani

SAP PS Specialist

Cameron

Houston, Texas - USA

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Hi ALL,

Thanks for Vinod' reply!

My system is EHP6 now. And I can not find the movement type 681/683 in EHP6.

But I can find them in EHP5.

At the same time I find a new SAP  Note 1640802 - Stock Transport Order between project stocks.

It seems that it can solve the problem. But it only for Brazil.

Alex Ding

From shanghai

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Active Contributor
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Hi,

Even though you are in EHP6, you should activate the business function LOG_MM_SIT in SFW5 to see the new movement types, Check with your Basis team they will help you in activating it.

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I will test the Log_MM_SIT!

THANKS

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Dear Folks,

We had already implemented CC STO with Q-stock using LOG_MM_SIT and it works successfully with no issues. But there are following two constraints of this new solution.

     (1) If your business requirement is, to transfer the title of goods; during goods receipt or during in-transit, then you need to use VLPOD step (this is going to be an extra step, which makes CC STO process, a three-step process from two-step process).

     (2) If you want to use CC STO with HU (Packing) then you have to use Inbound Delivery (IBD) in addition to Outbound Delivery (OBD) with confirmation control key.

Thanks & Regards,

Vinod Ramchandani

SAP PS Specialist

CAMERON

Houston, Texas - USA

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Hi, Vinod,

I have active LOG_MM_SIT.

But when I do post issue for the delivery with 683,I meet a error.

"

Update control of movement type is incorrect (entry 683 X X Q L X P)

Message no. M7226

"

Have you met the same problem?

Because of the problem, we  can not test the VLPOD.

Would you please give me a favor.

Best Regards,

Alex Ding

2013.09.02

From shanghai

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Dear Yichun,

You are trying to use LOG_MM_SIT with Non-valuated Project Stock (NVPS).

LOG_MM_SIT is only supports Valuated Project Stock (VPS).

This Cross Company Stock-In-transit (SiT) is used to track the value (with quantity) of stock during in-transit.

Please check if your requirement can be changed to use VPS to support CC STO.

Thanks

Vinod Ramchandani

SAP PS Specialist

CAMERON

Houston, TX - USA

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Dear Vinod,

Thanks for your fast reply!

We just want to use STO to realize transfer project stock requirement cross company.

The standard STO can not support it because the 643Q is not possible.

So I tried the business function of LOG_MM_SIT you suggested.

Is it only way we can do the business with VPS STO?

I will test the VPS!

Best Regards,

Alex Ding

From shanghai

20130903

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Hi, Vinod,

I am happy to let you know that I have solved the VPS STO problem.

Beacuse of initialling Q stock with 561 Q, I created a unvaluated project stock. So I can not do goods issue.

Here is my testing screen shot.

With two step I finished the cross company transfer order with Project stock.

1. Goods issue the delivery with 683&107

2. Goods recept the purchase order with 109

Just as the picture below,it is the third way to realize CC STO with Q stock

I am still trying to test the first and second way.

But I have met problem which is like the screen shot below.

I have done goods issue. I can not do VLPOD yet even though I have configurated the POD relation to NCC2&NCC3 delivery item category.

Did you have implemented the second solution with three steps?

1. Goods Issue 681

2. VLPOD goods issue 685&107

3. Goods recept 109

Best Regards,

Alex Ding

From shanghai

2013.09.03

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Dear Ding,

Yes. We have tested all three options and currently using second option where title transfer is during in-transit (681->685&107->109).

Make sure you follow through the "Release Notes" religeously. In order to use VLPOD, you have to set Delivery item category as POD relevant as well as Inter-Co Customer as POD relevant too, then only you can use VLPOD.

In addition, If you are going to pack (HU) the outbound delivery (OBD) then you have to configure confirmation control with inbound delivery (IBD) process.

Thanks

Vinod Ramchandani

SAP PS Specialist

CAMERON

Houston, Texas

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Dear Vinod,

Thanks for your so fast reply.

The customer master is also necessary which I forgot.

We have not use Handing unit in this project. But I think it is necessary for me to test it!

Best Regards,

Alex Ding

Shanghai

2013.09.03

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Hi Vinod,

Thanks for your help.

I have solved the problem.

Best Regards,

ALex Ding

shanghai

2013.09.04

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