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[RAR] SAPGRC_AC_IDM_* Web Services

Former Member
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Hi all,

I'm testing the SAPGRC_AC_IDM Web Services but unfortunately with no success.

Specifically the Web Services:

SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SELECTAPPLICATION

SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SEARCHROLES

For the first one, there is no mandatory field. The invocation is well performed, but with no results. I have checked the RAR Portal and the configuration is ok at the Systems Connectors configuration.

With the SearchRoles one occurs a similar problem. The invocation is done well but with no results. In this case, there are two mandatory fields (Application, AccessType)

In the Application Field I introduce the System Name configured at the RAR Connector Configuration and for the AccessType I have tried with Roles, Role, but It doesn't work anyway.

I have read the GRC Access Control Configuration Guide and the documentation is quite poor for the Web Services, also tried to look for documentation of these Web Service on the ES Workplace, but there is no documentation.

Has anyone of you performed a successful invocation of IDM Web Services?

Thanks in advance,

Toni

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Former Member
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Hi Toni,

All these web services are associated with CUP. You need to configure CUP for these web services to show you any result.

Regards,

Alpesh

Former Member
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Hi Alpesh,

I understand that CUP installation and configuration is necessary to call

the provisioning Web Services, like SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SUBMITREQUEST or SAPGRC_AC_IDM_RISKANALYSIS. Generally, all the Web Services that requires

a user provisioning action.

But for the Web Services SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SELECTAPPLICATION and SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SEARCHROLES there is no action required from CUP, it is

performed by GRC Access Control. The systems and roles are imported on AC

not in CUP (or on an IDM system if you want).

Are you really sure about the necessity of CUP configuration to run these

two Web Services?

At the SAP GRC Access Control 5.3 Configuration Guide I don't see anything

about this restriction.

Thanks a lot,

toni

Former Member
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Hi,

I am 100% sure that the SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SELECTAPPLICATION and SAPGRC_AC_IDM_SEARCHROLES require CUP. These webservices look at the CUP database and will retrun you the result. AC 5.3 is just collection of RAR, CUP, SPM and ERM. AC 5.3 still requires you to configure all the modules separately.

If you still don't believe me, create one role and one conector in CUP and then call the above web services.

Regards,

Alpesh

Former Member
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Hello Alpesh!

I believe you, but for me it is hard to think that using just the RAR Module without CUP is it possible to import roles and implement the SoD Matrix according to the Roles.

Do you know if there is any table that mantain the role list? I have been querying the RAR tables with no success.

Thanks a lot!!

toni

Former Member
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Hi Alpesh,

I found a table with the roles:

VIRSA_CC_GENOBJ

Filtering with Objtype I am able to retreive all the logs.

Although, I thought that the table VIRSA_CC_CRROLE would contain the roles when I query it, I get back no results.

Best regards,

toni

koehntopp
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???

Can you tell us what exactly you're trying to do? It seems you have a different understanding of how to use RAR and the web services.

If you tell us exactly what you want to achieve I'll be glad to help.

Frank.

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Hi Frank,

Just trying to find the best method to retreive the role list and role description from GRC. In my case just RAR Module is installed and configured. The systems and roles have been imported to RAR.

Once realized that it is imposible to use the SAPGRC_AC_IDM_* Web Services will have to query RAR tables to get the role list.

Best regards,

toni