SAP PO 75 on HANA

[yeshuaq]

Hi,

we have an SAP PO75 system on SQL and planning to migrate to PO75+HANA DB.

1. what are advantages of HANA DB compare to PO system on other databases.

2. will SAP support other databases for SAP PO75 until 2027 or more? or we must migrate PI/PO systems to HANA database by 2030?

3. how much migration tool helps in this scenario and list of available migration tools for PO75

4. will PO75+HANA DB support both SWINg and IFlow options? or only IFlow on NWDS? did SAP has any plans to stop Swing option?

Thank you.

Regards,YQ

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Hi yeshuaq,

Interesting topic, let me try to address your questions and share my 2 cents.

1. what are advantages of HANA DB compare to PO system on other databases.

Throughput, Operational process intelligence - OPint, near real time visibility of all messages, simplification of monitoring and maintenance, evolution of market connectors, pre-packaged cloud scenarios, Use of iFlows.

2. will SAP support other databases for SAP PO75 until 2027 or more? or we must migrate PI/PO systems to HANA database by 2030?

According to the release strategy information, extended support will be provided until 2030. The problem will certainly not be the DB support, but the application stack instead. A migration to HANA in 2030 for your old PO sounds inadequate already. You will certainly be reviewing the migration possibilities a lot earlier than that, given the pace of cloud integration solutions.

3. how much migration tool helps in this scenario and list of available migration tools for PO75

There are several scenarios. First, you need to define your strategy to split the existing stacks or if you will do a fresh install. The number of nuts and bolts to consider on your migration are not small. I would highly recommend you look at this blog as a starting point >>> Migration Approach of SAP PI/XI to SAP PO (Hana Enterprise Cloud/On-Premise) or Cloud Platform Integ...

4. will PO75+HANA DB support both SWINg and IFlow options? or only IFlow on NWDS? did SAP has any plans to stop Swing option?

What I have seen and heard and is that Swing support will be deprecated by Oracle (they still own Java, right?) 🙂

So, unless one of the Jedis in this blog advise something different, I would focus on iFlow >>> From Swing to Eclipse: My two months experience on NWDS 7.31 | SAP Blogs

Valuable references:

OPint blogs

>>>> POV: SAP PI/PO on HANA | SAP Blogs

>>>> SAP Operational Process Intelligence with SAP BPM – Visualization and Monitoring (Part 1) | SAP Blog...

>>>> SAP Operational Process Intelligence powered by SAP HANA

I understand you are already on PO, but this blog focus on the S/4 HANA component while it explains the advantages on PO. It will certainly shed a light.

13 Reasons to Migrate from SAP PI to SAP PO (and Intelligent Business Operations) – Chalk and Cheese...

Migration strategy (Process, User and Data Style review) - the concepts and foundation discussion are very solid and deserve a review.

Migration Approach of SAP PI/XI to SAP PO (Hana Enterprise Cloud/On-Premise) or Cloud Platform Integ...

SAP NW 7.5 Maintenance Strategy

https://community.sap.com/topics/abap/netweaver-maintenance-strategy#:~:text=Process%20Orchestration....

I know, it is a lot. But you want to be sure you understand what are your possibilities and market customers are actually doing, so you are not on thin ice.

Kindly accept the answer if you consider this helped to address your topic.

Cheers,

Luis

[anupam_ghosh2 · Accepted solution]

Thank you so much lazfreitas for this well explained response to the query. This is very helpful.

Regards

Anupam

[alex_bundschuh]

Hi Yeshua, Luis,

I do appreciate the detailed reply from Luis, I especially like the comprehensive link collection, although I see some of the aspects differently:

wrt 1. HANA DB vs other DBs, the advantages that Luis lists above rather applies to PO vs PI dual stack, i.e., this applies to PO on any DB, except for OPInt which is supported on HANA DB only. Although the performance on a PO system is much better in terms of throughput and response times when comparing with a PI dual stack, there is no difference between PO on HANA and any other DB, reason is that the PO use case is rather an OLTP and not OLAP, each message needs to be persisted and hence PO does not really benefit from the in-memory and column based storage. The only advantage I see is DB consolidation, i.e., in case that you run your whole landscape on HANA DB, then this could also include PO.

wrt 2, to add to Luis' reply, we will support any DB according to the PAM, there are no plans to revoke support for other DBs, this wouldn't be possible for legal reasons anyway, so you can stay on your DB, see https://apps.support.sap.com/sap/support/pam?hash=pvnr%3D73554900100900000414%26pt%3Dg%257Cd

wrt 4, to add to Luis' reply, it's correct that Oracle has deprecated Java Webstart from Java 11 on, but it's still supported in Java 8, and Java 8 support has been extended until 2030, so you can still use the Swing clients until end of maintenance of PO 7.5. However, I like to stress that there are no new development investments done for the Swing clients any more, new features will only go into the NWDS perspectives. Btw, there is also an alternative to Oracle's JVM, see https://launchpad.support.sap.com/#/notes/2677849.

Alex

[yeshuaq]

Thank you Alexander and Luis. the resposnes were very helpful.