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I am migrating from BOE 4.0 to 4.1...do I need to use the Upgrade Management Tool?

kelly_stone1
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Hello - Do I need to use the UMT for webi reports that I have in 4.0 to use in a 4.1 system?  I am not doing an in place upgrade, I have two separate systems...one with 4.0 and the other with 4.1.

Or can I just use Promotion Management (LCM) with nothing more to do?

Kind regards,

Kelly

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denis_konovalov
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You have to use Promotion Management.

Or UMT with unsupported by SAP option -noversioncheck....

Using Promotion Mangement you'll have to run jobs with limited number of objects

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Denis,

Agree that UMT with noversion check option would be one of the option here.

However, Before Using Promotion Management, the pre-requisite should be both the environments [From environment - To environment] should be in same BOE version [Might be at different patch level] as per my understanding after going though the Promotion Management guide.

Can you please advise/clarify ? In the above scenario with Different BOE versions [From BOE 4.0 to BOE 4.1], wondering, how can the promotion management work ?

Appreciate your help.

Regards,

Venu

Former Member
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Yes Venu, if you are planning to move objects from one environment to another then you can use UMT  for upgradation (From one version 4.0 - 4.1) whereas you can't perform the same with Promotion Management since it promotes the objects within the same version of BOBJ.

Therefore, if you need to move objects from one environment to another using promotion management then only way is to, import the objects to BIAR file and export it into new environment 4.1. But this action will result with so many files for exporting into 4.1.

Regards

Vijay

denis_konovalov
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BI4.0 and BI4.1 are not 2 different versions, they are 2 different patch versions.

Like Xi3.1 and XI3.0 or Xi3.1 SP4 and XI3.1 SP6 ....

UMT per design is used from R2/Xi3.x to BU4.x , From BI4.x you'll use UMT to migrate into BI5.x or whatever that version will be called.

So, BI4.1 from BI4.0 you use Promotion management of BI4.1, or un-documented -noversion check option of UMT. (hopefully with help of SAP support)

kelly_stone1
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Hello Denis - I was just able to use Promotion Management on a 4.1 system to promote from a 4.0 system (both sandbox).  I promoted a connection and a webi.  Everything has worked great so far.  Looking at the SAP documentation a little closer in the BI Platform Upgrade Guide...it says:

(Found here https://websmp204.sap-ag.de/~sapidb/011000358700000805352013E/sbo41sp1_bip_upgrade_en.pdf)

promotion

The process of transferring business intelligence content between deployments with the same major release (e.g. 4.0 to 4.0) using the promotion management application. 

migration

The process of transferring Business Intelligence content from a previous major release (e.g. from XI 3.1) using the  upgrade management tool. Cannot be used for deployments with the same major release - see “promotion”.

So I agree with you in that promotion management is used for promotion within the same major release. UMT would be used between major release migrations.

Kind regards,

Kelly

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Thank You for clarifying Denis. Regards, Venu

Former Member
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Hi Denis,

I am quite in the same situation. My 4.0 is on 2008 server and I am planning to install 4.1 on a separate environment windows server 2012. What tool will I need to transfer the data? So far I have read LCM (is it promotion management?).

Since we are new to BO upgarde, is there any prerequisite or recommendations you would recommend.

Is this transfer to a new environment the proper approach in the context of server and software upgrade?.

Best regards,

Steve

denis_konovalov
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If you're new to BO and upgrade process, best way would be to engage with SAP Consulting to design proper upgrade plan.

If I was you, I'd do in-place upgrade on your existing server. Then install same 4.1 version on new box clustering it to the original, then remove original box from the picture.

This way you won't need to use UMT or Promotion management and end up on a new server.

Former Member
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Thanks for the quick reply. Another quick question if you don't mind: When installaling the 4.1 in the new box, what will be used to transfer the data from the old to the new box when ready to migrate? So far we don't have a huge number of objects. I'll follow your recommendations.

Again, I appreciate your help.

Regards

Steve

denis_konovalov
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If you do:  box A upgrade to Bi4.1 Sp1, test, if OK --> install BI4.1 Sp1 on box B clustering it to Box A. Test, if all OK --> remove box A from cluster.

Then you do not need to migrate anything. Provided your CMS DB is on separate box from box A and FRS is on a common file share.

Former Member
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Hi Denis,

Any references or key concepts for clustering? I'm not used to it. Where is this to be configured?

Regards,

Steve

denis_konovalov
Active Contributor
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You can find details in Admin guide.

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rick_kruyf3
Explorer
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BOE 4.1 has two major differences in the default install that could affect how you deploy the system.

  • If you are using the default database with BOE 4.0 the installation is done using SQL Server Express 2008 R2, with 4.1 the default database is Sybase.
  • In BOE 4.0 the default JAVA application server is Tomcat 6, with BOE 4,1 the deployment is Tomcat 7.


See the sbo41sp1_patch_update_en.pdf for the recommended steps.