Difference between SAP HANA CLOUD and SAP HANA SERVICE in BTP Enviorenment

[zameer0448]

Hi All,

Need you help and Guidance. What is the Difference between SAP HANA CLOUD and SAP HANA SERVICE in SAP BTP Environment.

Attaching the screen shot. Which one is future proof, We have On-Premise HANA DB.

HANA DB Version : 2.0 SP06 (SAP HANA 2.0 Support Package Stack 06 Database Revision 64 )

We are planning to migrate this to HANA in cloud, So wanted to understand what is the difference between these two services in SAP BTP.

Need your help, We have many XSA applications running with Nodejs and python applications and want to migrate, so which service in BTP will be better.

[zameer0448]

Hi Joseph/Gerogr,

Thanks for sharing the details, so as per the understanding from the blog, it is clear that the HANA cloud is successor of HANA service, and HANA cloud is container based technology and SAP HANA Service is VMWare based technology was used, which is no longer supported by SAP for the new customers. is my understanding correct? The future is HANA cloud.

The only worry is we have around 40 to 50 XSA applications running in HANA XSA environment(nodejs,python) in on-premise environment. SAP HANA Cloud doesn't support the XSA environment and we are not sure what is the successor of HANA XSA in HANA cloud and which migration tool and strategy or road map need to use to migrated HANA XSA applications from On-premise to cloud.

Attaching the screen shot of the HANA XSA environment and applications bounded to Nodejs/Python.

Thanks and Regards

Zameer Ahamad

[gregorw · Accepted solution]

Hi Zameer,

HANA XSA is an on premise distribution of Cloud Foundry. So the BTP Cloud Foundry Environment is your target. Here is the list of Buildpacks that I'm getting:

cf buildpacks
Getting buildpacks as gregor...

position   name                      stack        enabled   locked   filename
1          staticfile_buildpack      cflinuxfs3   true      false    staticfile_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.5.35.zip
2          java_buildpack            cflinuxfs3   true      false    java_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v4.53.zip
3          ruby_buildpack            cflinuxfs3   true      false    ruby_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.8.60.zip
4          dotnet_core_buildpack     cflinuxfs3   true      false    dotnet-core_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v2.4.3.zip
5          nodejs_buildpack          cflinuxfs3   true      false    nodejs_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.8.3.zip
6          go_buildpack              cflinuxfs3   true      false    go_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.10.1.zip
7          python_buildpack          cflinuxfs3   true      false    python_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.8.1.zip
8          php_buildpack             cflinuxfs3   true      false    php_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v4.4.68.zip
9          nginx_buildpack           cflinuxfs3   true      false    nginx_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.1.45.zip
10         r_buildpack               cflinuxfs3   true      false    r_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.1.35.zip
11         binary_buildpack          cflinuxfs3   true      false    binary_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs3-v1.0.47.zip
12         python_buildpack          cflinuxfs4   true      false    python_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs4-v1.8.1.zip
13         nodejs_buildpack          cflinuxfs4   true      false    nodejs_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs4-v1.8.3.zip
14         dotnet_core_buildpack     cflinuxfs4   true      false    dotnet-core_buildpack-cached-cflinuxfs4-v2.4.3.zip
15         sap_java_buildpack                     true      false    sap_java_buildpack-v1.64.1.zip
16         sap_java_buildpack_1_64                true      false    sap_java_buildpack-v1.64.1.zip
17         sap_java_buildpack_1_63                true      false    sap_java_buildpack-v1.63.0.zip
18         sap_java_buildpack_1_60                true      false    sap_java_buildpack-v1.60.1.zip

I would suggest you start with the learning journey: Develop Applications Running on SAP BTP Using SAP HANA Cloud to learn the latest and greatest. I think then you will also understand how to port your apps to BTP a bit better.

As an alternative to Cloud Foundry you can also check out Kyma as a Kubernetes based environment. There you would need to deploy Docker Containers for your application part.

Best Regards
Gregor

[zameer0448 · Accepted solution]

Hi Gregor,

Thanks for your guidance. So it is not easy/straight fwd. migration due to XSA applications. We were impression DB migration will be straight forward from On-premise to HANA cloud, But due to XSA applications it is not easy. Thanks for sharing the link for Develop Applications Running on SAP BTP Using SAP HANA Cloud.

We are already developing and deploying the HTML/UI5 firoi applications using SAP Neo Web-IDE, we need to adopt the BAS tool.

If you have any blog or documentation on this topic of XSA application migration to BTP environment, helps a lot to start drafting these migration details. Please share.

Thanks and Reards

Zameer Ahamad

[gregorw · Accepted solution]

Hi Zameer,

I guess you use already MTA to deploy your XSA apps. As you can see in my https://github.com/gregorwolf/bookshop-demo applicaiton CAP applications can be developed in a way that they can be deployed to on premise XSA as well as BTP Cloud Foundry.

Best Regards
Gregor