SAP Web IDE Trial Update

[keren_rotenberg]

Updated Feb 28, 2021

On March 31, 2021, SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA development in the trial environment will be discontinued. This temporary solution is no longer required as SAP Business Application Studio supports the development scenarios you are familiar with from SAP Web IDE Full-Stack, including SAP HANA development. For more information on HANA development in Business Application Studio, see info blog II (HANA section) .

Before March 31, 2021, you must choose one of the following options:

1. Onboard to Business Application Studio trial or purchase a license, see SAP Store or the Discovery Center. Migrate your projects from SAP Web IDE to Business Application Studio, see info blog II.


2. Purchase a license to SAP Web IDE Full-Stack by March 31st , 2021. See SAP Store or the Discovery Center

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Original blog post:

On November 13, 2020 the SAP Cloud Platform, Neo trial environment will be discontinued and as a result SAP Web IDE Full-Stack trial will also be discontinued.

If you have an existing Neo trial account, you can continue using it including SAP Web IDE Full-Stack until November 13, 2020. This can be done by opening the SAP Cloud Platform trial home page, scrolling down to the Environments section, and choosing "Access Neo Trial" Link.  Then, under Services choose SAP Web IDE Full-Stack.

Before November 13, you must choose one of the following options:

1. Start using the SAP Business Application Studio trial as it is the next generation of SAP Web IDE Full-Stack. It offers a modern desktop-like experience in the cloud including new tools, capabilities, and much more. To learn more, we have created a central blog with links to useful information, supported scenarios, migration guides and hands-on tutorials.


2. Purchase a license to SAP Web IDE Full-Stack, see the SAP Store or the Discovery Center.


3. For SAP HANA native development, the tools available in SAP Web IDE Full-Stack are not yet available in SAP Business Application Studio. To learn how to develop using SAP Business Application Studio, see this video. If you still want to use those tools, you can use SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA development which is available on the SAP Cloud Platform multi-cloud trial environment. This temporary solution will be available until SAP HANA development tools are supported in SAP Business Application Studio. To access this solution see tutorial , for usage see video.

For more information on the SAP Cloud Platform strategy, take a look at this blog , or the FAQ.

Note this blog is about discontinuing SAP Web IDE Full-Stack Trial. SAP Web IDE Full-Stack licensed customers can continue using SAP Web IDE Full-Stack, it is available and supported.

[former_member596519]

Dear Keren,

thanks for the information. Since the SAP Business Application Studio Trial is hosted on CF trial environment, one important difference is that the trial accounts will expire after some time and extensions, and all projects will be gone. Therefore, it is good for instance to push the project to some Git repo. This was not the case for the NEO.

[ramki_maley]

Hi Keren,

I was looking for the “Access Neo Trial” Link a week ago and could not find it in the SAP Cloud Platform trial home page, There is no Environments section either.

Regards,

Ramki.

 

 

[GeorgeAbraham]

Hi Ramki,

Scroll to the far end of the page and you would see a faint text - one for Neo and one for CF

[ramki_maley]

Hi George,

I am using Firefox and did a search for Neo on that page with no results. Can you provide a screenshot?

[keren_rotenberg]

Hi Aleksandar,

Yes that is correct. In general, usage of Git is always recommended. You can also download the dev space content and import it's content to another dev space.

 

Thanks,

Keren

[keren_rotenberg]

see here https://answers.sap.com/answers/13121150/view.html

[ramki_maley]

Can you please confirm that the Environments Section and Neo Trial are still available by clicking on the link SAP Cloud Platform trial home page,  They cannot be seen for the last 10 days for me and a few others as well. Possibly the SAP employees can see but not external users?

Thanks.

 

 

[former_member277448]

hello karen,

just to confirm ... \

i currently use web ide full stack to help me develop UI5 apps.

as far as i know, i do not do the neo trial thing - just develop UI5 apps.

when the neo trial ends, will i be able to continue to use web ide full stack to develop UI5 apps? if not, what are my options (going back to Eclipse? using web ide personal edition?)

cheers, Pas

[RazK]

Hi pas.longo ,

In order to use SAP Web IDE productively, a license is required. The license grants access to the Factory landscape, which is different than the trial landscape. While this blog discusses the discontinuation of the trial landscape, the Factory landscape is available, maintained, and supported.

Regards - Raz

[former_member596519]

Dear Keren,

 

thanks for the hint with the Download-Option!

Toda Raba!

Best regards,

Aleksandar

[former_member596519]

just scroll down...

[melanie_lauber]

Thanks for the blog on this. Got the email but this is much better and clearer.

However, SAP Business Application Studio is in no way a good replacement for the Web IDE. It's a huge hassle to even set it up and that has to be repeated every 30-90 days, because the account is wiped. I'd rather have the simple Web IDE on CF as is (with just a link to bookmark, no other steps) and then getting wiped (because that's fine, I can use Git as previously commented) but BAS requires tons of steps to even start using it. I cannot understand this decision and is a huge loss for anyone wanting to try out Fiori, UI5, wanting to do tutorials etc. Speaking of tutorials, they all still speak of Web IDE. There has to be a simpler way than this?

[former_member389775]

Seems to me that the git way is a good way to start.

In the beginning, WebID was also unstable and had multiple issues and many of them were solved throughout the lifetime of the product, however, some subsided until EOL. Like any product, it takes time to mature.

I hope SAP revises their strategy around SAP BAS and starts offering this as a tool that better speaks to other parts of SCP and that caters to the developer mainly.

My personal opinion is that the primary focus of a dev tool is to help the developer and to accelerate their work. If more roadblocks are added than fast lanes people will continue to see a problem to fully embrace UI5.

There are other tools in the market that make a much better job at helping developers regardless of their experience in UI5 to use UI5, and these are not just tools but toolsets that really helps developers, sap customers, and partners to get the most out of their workforce and their systems ( again personal experience ).

Maybe people should take a deep breath and look around, grass can also be green(er) outside the lawns of Waldorf.

[natarajan_srikanta]

Hi Keren Rotenberg,

Thanks for heads up!!

Will there be any option to migrate all our projects from “Web IDE Full stack trail Neo” to “Business Application Studio”???

Also looks like trail version for SAP Cloud foundry lasts for 90days only..Post that subaccount will be deleted..is my understanding correct???

Regards,

Natarajan

[josantonio_moreno]

Hi, VIsual Studio Code, is there any other? i'm looking around, I need it

[former_member596519]

Neptune? Though, never used it

[former_member596519]

Dear Meli,

 

I am afraid, I fully agree with you! Not only the the additional work for trial account users to store the projects, which can be achieved either by saving the whole dev-space and re-importing it, or using Git, but also that, let's say, 99% of the resources/training material currently available is using WEB IDE. Especially for new-comers, learning SAPUI5 might be rendered a little more difficult in this "transitional phase". Not everybody will take a company account, directly from the beginning.

BR,

Aleks

[balalizou]

Hi karen,

when I open sap web ide on cf trial . there is not in it a way to import design from build plateform!

but in neo trial it's steel used

do you now why.

thank you for replay!

 

[tswami67]

Hi, I am also afraid if remove SAP WEB IDE Full stack. Because I am currently using it only for Build project purpose for my company UI5 projects. OR can I use my company S user account instead of my personal account? please advise. thanks. --Swami

[israr1255]

If i have a S user id and want to develop apps on new SAP WebIDE, do i have to purchase it or existing Hana users are already authorized?

[melanie_lauber]

I'm considering swapping to Visual Studio Code. But Web IDE was just such a perfect tool (despite maybe some issues, none which ever stopped me from proceeding) that it just hurts. You could do anything you wanted; enterprise wise, or trial wise. You could be a newbie or a veteran.

I'm also sorry for colleagues of mine who have been developing on enterprise account on Neo Web IDE full-stack and now somehow need to migrate that all? I hope SAP is helping, other than blog posts and email. Cause that is a huge thing too.

As I said before, I cannot understand the decision and it seems rushly made and not thought-through.

[former_member596519]

One should for company and productively used projects, use the company grade version of SCP and subscribe for WEB IDE users for instance. It is roughly 50 bucks... and you get 5 licences.

[kumud]

This is a very anti-developer community news. Neo environment being discontinued should have made CF environment to have timeless access on trial as was with Neo. How will this strategy support and encourage developer community?

 

 

Kumud

[EkanshCapgemini]

I second this. CF trials should be without any time limits if they want the developer community to thrive.

[former_member294254]

Is there any way to download all projects of trial web ide in local system in single go?

[yuval_morad]

Yes We help

Here are 2 migrations blogs

Fiori deployed to ABAP stack

https://blogs.sap.com/2020/07/08/migrating-fiori-application-from-sap-web-ide-to-sap-business-applic...

Fiori deployed to Neo stack

https://blogs.sap.com/2020/09/18/migrating-sap-ui5-standalone-apps-from-neo-to-cloud-foundry/

[yuval_morad]

 

Here are 2 migrations blogs

Fiori deployed to ABAP stack

https://blogs.sap.com/2020/07/08/migrating-fiori-application-from-sap-web-ide-to-sap-business-applic...

Fiiri deployed to Neo stack

https://blogs.sap.com/2020/09/18/migrating-sap-ui5-standalone-apps-from-neo-to-cloud-foundry/

[RazK]

Hi mahakgupta987 ,

You can download all projects per workspace, ie if you only have one workspace you are able to download all projects in a single go. For more information see here.

Regards - Raz

[RazK]

Hi israr1255 ,

If by "new SAP Web IDE" you mean "SAP Business Application Studio" (BAS), then the answer is yes. BAS has a different license than SAP Web IDE.

Regards - Raz

[RazK]

Hi balalizou ,

Please note that SAP Web IDE on CF is intended for native SAP HANA application development.

However, answer to your specific question is that you may need to enable the Build extension. Refer to documentation.

Regards - Raz

[davide-grosso]

Hi,

It seems to  me  that this is not a  good  news.There  are several SAPUI5 training that have  been prepared  using Web IDE and Neo  Enviroment. All the instructions to connect  to  the  system and start develop are preapared using Web IDE. Also the  documentation. So it will be  very difficult for people  to follow these  courses. How can you  manage this issue? The training  documentation  will be updated ?

Thanks and regards,

Davide

[former_member294254]

Thanks

[RazK]

Hi davide-grosso ,

Please note that only the trial environment is discontinued. Licensed customers can continue using SAP Web IDE Full-Stack. It is available and supported. Therefore, also trainings that use productive accounts can continue to take place.

Trainings that rely on the availability of trial accounts are being migrated to use SAP Business Application Studio.

Regards - Raz

[ptharso]

Hi all, i think is a problem to us migrating to BAS – CF from NEO SAP Web IDE full stack. We cannot know the reasons from SAP but its impossible to continue to learn SAPUI5 in a trial form.

See https://answers.sap.com/questions/13138202/migrating-a-neo-html5-app-to-sap-bastudio-in-cloud.html

[davide-grosso]

Hi Raz,

thanks for your feedback, but do you mean that the documentation of the existing  training will be  updated or that SAP will deliver some new training  that  replace  the  old  ones?(I  see  that SAP Business Studio  is completely different from WEB IDE).

Anyway, do you know the timing of this  training migration ?

Me and my colleagues are  following  this courses and  this "change" is creating some  confusion.

thanks in advance

Davide

[RazK]

Hi davide-grosso ,

Can you share which specific training you're referring, and I'll reach out to the relevant colleagues to comment.

Regards - Raz

[davide-grosso]

Hi Raz, I'm  talking about these  ones:

1. https://open.sap.com/courses/ui51  ->Developing Web Apps with SAPUI5


2. https://open.sap.com/courses/ui52  ->Evolved Web Apps with SAPUI5

In particulary  the 1st one, it's a very  good training and I know that a lot of beginners  follow it to learn SAPUI5. We would hate to lose it.

Thanks in advance

Davide

[RazK]

Hi davide-grosso ,

Yes, these are great courses (disclosure - I was supporting these courses in the background).

I am not familiar with released courses that were modified using new tooling. Having said that, new revisions of courses will use the latest and greatest. For example, the latest SAP Fiori introductory course uses SAP Business Application Studio. Since SAP Fiori is being enhanced with new toolings and capabilities, I'd expect that a new course will be made available using SAP Business Application Studio.

Regards - Raz

[davide-grosso]

ok,  thanks

[kerem_kayacan]

...which does not come for free. Please inform people about free options.

[former_member704411]

Learning sapui5 and best practises has become a little bit harder from now on. BAS is a great tool but is a lot of heavier and sometimes an overkill for people that comes from traditional abap.

I understand that sap wants to push the use of BAS but too many changes too soon can also destroy an emerging comunity of developers.

[Former Member]

Since the countdown to termination has shown up (and kinda disappeared without warning) in my trial account, just want to tag this blog and comments for easier recovery before November 13.

Thank you,

gm

#WebIDE

[RazK]

Hi kerem.kayacan ,

After Nov. 13th, there will be no free option for SAP Web IDE. As Keren mentioned in the beginning of the blog. It is not only for SAP Web IDE, but for all services on the trial landscape of SAP Cloud Platform, Neo environment ("On November 13, 2020 the SAP Cloud Platform, Neo trial environment will be discontinued and as a result SAP Web IDE Full-Stack trial will also be discontinued.").

Regards - Raz

[Former Member]

Hi Raz,

What do you mean by 'all services'? Also those that were not originally on neo?

That's the real news, if confirmed.

Thank you,

gm

[RazK]

Hi Former Member ,

All services on the trial landscape of SAP Cloud Platform, Neo environment.

The Neo trial landscape will be inactive starting from Nov 13th.

Regards - Raz

[former_member705413]

Dear Keren Rotenberg,

 

Thanks for your update.

 

 

Thank You

 

Mans Nagar

[AdrianDBorja]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, please redirect if necessary!

Our project is currently using Neo so naturally we also train ourselves using Neo(some using trial environment), so aside from using the paid Neo environment, there is no other place to do training once Neo trial is ended. We can opt to practice using CF instead, but that leaves one question.

For paid environment, is there a separate license or cost associated with using CF? As mentioned, currently our apps are on Neo, and I’m not sure what’s stopping us from using CF for newer app development, whether it is caused by license/cost constraints. Can someone from SAP advise?

Thanks!

[RazK]

Hi adrian.d.borja ,

Please post this question in the following blog.

yun-hsuan.lin - FYI

Regards - Raz

[tswami67]

Hi, I am really worried about this discontinue of this web ide trial. shall we use company's S-user account instead? if yes, I will ask sap to provide as already my company purchased NetWeaver 7.4 license and quickly migrate all projects from Trial to S user account before 13 nov 2020. Pls advise .thanks.

Thanks and regards

Swami

[keren_rotenberg]

Hi Swami,

As mentioned in the blog you have 3 options:

1. Start using the SAP Business Application Studio trial

2. Purchase a license to SAP Web IDE Full-Stack via Account Executive or SAP Store

3. For SAP HANA native development, you can use SAP Web IDE for SAP HANA development which is available on the SAP Cloud Platform multi-cloud trial environment.

NetWeaver 7.4 license is a different license. It does not include SAP Web IDE Full-Stack or SAP Business Application Studio.

Thanks,

Keren