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Layout oriented storage control combined with process oriented storage control during outbound

Thorsten2672
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Hi all,

I want to implement following described outbound process for deliveries to production having no HUs on my source storage types and using pick-points.

The used vehicle for picking has "fixed bins" on itself for the picked materials (based on material number or grouped by e.g. product hierarchy). For this case I want to use packaging instructions with special access sequences and I want to create nested HUs. The vehicle itself is the highest (first) level of the HU and the packed materials are the second level of the HU. After picking I want to move the vehicle (the nested HU) across different storage types to the production. The advantage is that I always know where the vehicle with which materials is located (stored).

Process:

  • We create an outbound delivery in S/4 HANA and all necessary related documents in embedded EWM
  • First step
    There are different components in a production order which have to be picked in different storage bins in one storage type.
  • A picker takes a vehicle for picking, starts the picking and puts the materials on this vehicle.
  • He /she repeats it until all parts are picked.
  • When the warehouse tasks for this storage type are fulfilled, the picker moves the vehicle across different storage types to a consolidation storage type.
  • Second step
    There is another warehouse Task from another storage type using the same, identical vehicle for production supply. Therefore, the vehicle from the first step waits at the consolidation storage type for further parts.
  • when the vehicle is ready (all components are picked and stored on the vehicle), the picker moves the vehicle across different storage types to production.
  • From the assembly line (PSA) we want to post the goods issue for the production order.

The way for the vehicle for internal production is always:
source storage bin - consolidation storage type - loading storage type - goods receipt in the production (storage type) - assembly line storage type.

The way for the vehicle for external production is always:

source storage bin - consolidation storage type - packing storage type - goods issue posting at a door.

For this process I want to combine "layout oriented storage control" with "process oriented storage control" during outbound.

Until now I started the customizin for "layout oriented storage control" with 3 different storage types. The system ignores the last type. I get less WTs as expected after confirming the blocked WTs and I can't find the issue.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any customizing-guideline for such a process.

  • Is there any documentation available? I can find tons of documentation for inbound, but not for outbound.
  • What do you think about the process in General. Does it work in standard EWM or where do you excpect add-ons?
  • Any comments, questions, etc. are welcome 🙂

Thanks in advance!
Thorsten

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Ajit_Routray
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Hi Thorsten,

How do you distinguish external and internal Production for outbound Delivery?

Is it different doc type/item type/WPT ..?

Kind Regards,

Ajit

Thorsten2672
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Hi Ajit,

it's just another PSA (production supply area) and based on this another ship-to-party.

Maybe I will create different doc types for delivery as well. Internally in the warehouse the processes are (more or less) the same. Therefore, there is no need to change anything.

Regards,

Thorsten

Ajit_Routray
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Hi Thorsten,

Thank you for writing.

Hope your case is posting change from below.

Your Question: For this process I want to combine "layout oriented storage control" with "process oriented storage control" during outbound.

My Understanding: You should start with POSC (Pick/Remove from Stock , then change to LOSC (if necessary), then again POSC (Put Away)

Standard Documentation:

Source: IMG->SCM Extended Warehouse Management->Cross-Process Settings->Warehouse Task->Define Process-Oriented Storage Control

For internal movement:

a) Remove from Stock b) Pack c) Deconsolidate d) Perform Value-Added Services e) Put Away

Production Scenarios:

1> 2 different EWM Managed Storage location for warehouse (Pick) and Production(PSA) process (Document for staging: Outbound Delivery in ECC and Posting change in EWM)

2> 1 single EWM Managed Storage Location for warehouse/Production (Document for staging: Outbound Delivery in ECC and Posting change in EWM)

3> 1 EWM Managed Storage Location for warehouse 1 not EWM managed Storage Location( IM) for production (Document for staging: Outbound Delivery in ECC and Outbound Delivery Order in EWM)

Please let us know if you have further queries.

Kind Regards,

Ajit

Thorsten2672
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Hi Ajit,

thanks for your response!

I started yesterday the customizing with POSC. The 1st step for picking works already 🙂
Now I have further questions:

  • How can I switch from POSC to LOSC? What is the indicator for jumping from POSC to LOSC and back?
  • Until now I get only one WT from my source storage type to the storage type which is assigned in POSC. When do I get the further WTs? When I confirm the previous WT or does the system create all WTs at once?

It would be nice if you could give me an example (screenshots) for a combination between POSC and LOSC.

Thanks in advance!

Thorsten

Ajit_Routray
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Hi Thorsten,

"How can I switch from POSC to LOSC? What is the indicator for jumping from POSC to LOSC and back?" ->

If you want a intermediate stage for the process oriented then we can configure lay out oriented as below - Copied from the link. Please find the link. (Really Nice Explanation)

"Until now I get only one WT from my source storage type to the storage type which is assigned in POSC. When do I get the further WTs?When I confirm the previous WT or does the system create all WTs at once?"-> Please Auto WT Check box in POSC (check the documentation for more info)

https://archive.sap.com/discussions/thread/3630960

https://archive.sap.com/discussions/thread/3565595

https://archive.sap.com/discussions/thread/3862497

Please let us know if you have further queries.

Kind Regards,

Ajit

Thorsten2672
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Hi Ajit,

thanks for the threads and the link. It's really great 🙂

Please have a look at the screenshots "assign storage process step" and "layout-oriented storage control" in the link. Here I have a gap and I don't understand how it works.

You have 4 steps for OUTP and 3 steps for OUTS. How are the 3 marked entries assigned to the steps in POSC? I miss here a screenshot for the 2nd Dialog structure "Process-oriented storage control". Or I'm completely wrong?

Can you explain which storage types are involved in each single step "PICK-PACK-STAG-LOAD" and what is the sequence of the material/HU-flow?

How does POSC know that LOSC has to be called? What is the indicator for it?

Best Regards,

Thorsten

Ajit_Routray
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Hi Thorsten,

"You have 4 steps for OUTP and 3 steps for OUTS. How are the 3 marked entries assigned to the steps in POSC? I miss here a screenshot for the 2nd Dialog structure "Process-oriented storage control". Or I'm completely wrong?" -> Sorry, can not comment on personal blog.This is just high level process concept for understanding.

How does POSC know that LOSC has to be called? What is the indicator for it?

Lets assume in your Process : source storage bin - consolidation storage type - packing storage type - goods issue posting at a door

Internal Steps in POSC: Picking (source storage bin), Packing(packing storage type), Put away(goods issue posting at a door)

consolidation storage type- Intermediate Storage Type

in LOSC Config:

You need to maintain WH No/Source Storage Type/Source Storage type Group/Destination Storage type/Group/HUType Group/Whole HU to determine intermediate storage type. ( "How does POSC know that LOSC has to be called? What is the indicator for it?" )

in your case (Assumption): Source Storage Type (source storage bin) + Destination Storage type (packing storage type) + Inter. Storage Type (consolidation storage type)

2 WT tasks will create

1> source storage bin to consolidation storage type

2> consolidation storage type to packing storage type

Please check in RF Transaction

Standard Documentation:

Define Layout-Oriented Storage Process Control

Use

In this IMG activity, you define intermediate locations (storage bins) in order to avoid having to directly move products from a source bin to a destination bin. For example, you can use intermediate storage bins as identification points or pick points.

Requirements

  • You have defined source, destination, and intermediate storage types.
  • If required, you have defined identification points or pick points.
  • You have defined HU types.
  • You have defined warehouse process types.
  • You have defined storage groups for layout-oriented storage control.
  • If you are working with the material flow system (MFS), you have already defined conveyor segments.

Activities

For your process (such as picking), define the required intermediate locations (storage bins).

  • Choose the source or destination storage type. You can use this to control whether the product movement should be executed via an identification or pick point.
  • If you want to move a complete handling unit (HU), set the Whole HU indicator.
  • Choose a HU type group. If you have defined this accordingly, you can use this assignment to specify, for example, that wire baskets or boxes should always be moved via this intermediate storage type.
  • Choose an intermediate storage type. You can use this, for example, to specify an identification or pick point.
  • You can also choose an intermediate storage section or enter an intermediate storage bin. You can use this to specify in more detail to where the product should be moved.
    If you do not enter an intermediate storage section or bin, Extended Warehouse Management (
EWM) uses the defined putaway strategies to find the necessary data. You define which data is necessary using the WT Generic indicator when you define storage types.
  • Choose the warehouse process type that should be used to create the warehouse task to the intermediate storage type. You use this to specify which activities should be performed during warehouse task processing (for example, whether replenishment should be triggered automatically, or whether the quantities should be rounded).
    If the intermediate storage type is an identification point, the system does not use the warehouse process type.
  • If you are working with the MFS, specify the corresponding conveyor technique segment for each route segment in the MFS.

Kind Regards,

Ajit