Financial Funds Control Exception

[Former Member]

Funds has been enabled in the BCS. The client does not want it to be immediately

control of funds, continue only financial item and financial center.

Execção actualize the rule for funds, but it happens that the Center and

Financial item that would check the budget not only would check if the BOTTOM

There is value to be spent.

Any help and very welcome.

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[Former Member]

Hi, could you elaborate, and example would be helpful

[Former Member]

Sorry - me my english is not better.

Here is the scenario where the following was enabled Funds. When we make budget planning was recorded values in the following address:

- Funds / Financial Centre / Financial Item. The client wants the control to be checked (AVC) only at the Financial Center / Item

Financial, but at launch the fund will be informed, ie will not control the funds only in Central Finance and Financial Item, the

Funds would be statistical for now.

Marck - Brasil

[Former Member]

Hi.

Financial item=commitment item?

As I understood you want to upload budget via CI,FC and Fund, but AVC trigger only via CI,FC?So, what about actuals?Would you use different fund or just one(eg default)?

I think you need to use Cover eligibility.

'Make' all funds(except default) as Sender, and Default as receiver

[iklovski]

Hi,

If you won't use funds, why entering the budget on them? Is there functional need for that? Try to avoid entering unnecessary elements to your budget structure. You can, indeed, as suggested by Alex, use cover eligibility functionality, but my recommendation would be to re-think your budget structure. Don't make it more difficut, than it is...

Regards,

Eli

[Former Member]

Thanks,

Due to a need we need to use the Fund in this first moment, but the company wants to gradually adopt the philosophy of sources resources, but the great fear and stop the current processes, so this need not control in funds.

Alex, yes commitem item = financial item in the company.

Could you provide me example Cover eligibility ?

My Scenario: Funds = 4001000

Fund Center = 1502

Comittem Item = Benefits.

Regards

[Former Member]

Hi,

'My Scenario: Funds = 4001000

Fund Center = 1502

Comittem Item = Benefits.' is it for actuals or for budget?

if you use only one fund there is no any issue.

User can not to put fund, but you do it via derivation for all transaction.

If you have some funds for budget, then create new default fund, eg X and customize Cover eligibility.

Create CE. for every addresses CI-FC-Fund(from budget)

Eg

Cover Eligibility=01

CI=Benefit, FC=1502,Fund=4001000(Budget address) - sender

CI=Benefit, FC=1502,Fund=5001000(Budget address) - sender

CI=Benefit, FC=1502,Fund=X(posting addr.) - receiver

Derivation

If CI=Benefit, FC=1502,Fund=X then CI=01

In this case, actuals of addresses CI=Benefit, FC=1502,Fund=X will consume budget from funds 4001000,5001000

[Former Member]

Thanks for the reply, which was helpful as always.

But one question only:

1 - Would it be possible instead to inform the center e commitent item used a 'wildcard' to notify all centers and commitment items ?

2 - About your question and the actual postings.

Best Regards

[Former Member]

Hi,

'Would it be possible instead to inform the center e commitent item used a 'wildcard' to notify all centers and commitment items ?'-sorry,I didn't understand you question, could you rephrase

[Former Member]

Dear Alex,

Exemplo:

Destination: Fund: 123 Fund Center begins:1 Fund Center end: 9999999 Comitem Item Begins: 1 Comitem Item End: 99999999

Receptor: Fund: 999 Fund Center begins:1 Fund Center end: 9999999 Comitem Item Begins: 1 Comitem Item End: 99999999

Destination: Fund: 345 Fund Center begins:1 Fund Center end: 9999999 Comitem Item Begins: 1 Comitem Item End: 99999999

Receptor: Fund: 999 Fund Center begins:1 Fund Center end: 9999999 Comitem Item Begins: 1 Comitem Item End: 99999999

Destination: Fund: 678 Fund Center begins:1 Fund Center end: 9999999 Comitem Item Begins: 1 Comitem Item End: 99999999

Receptor: Fund: 999 Fund Center begins:1 Fund Center end: 9999999 Comitem Item Begins: 1 Comitem Item End: 99999999

But, is not possible information Fund Center Begins and fund center END and Comitem Item Begins and comitem end.

Best Regards

[Former Member]

Hi, please use sap terms to build your question to be more clear.

[Former Member]

Sorry, Dear Alex.

My problem concerns - Eligibility to cover where we have around 4000 fund center and 5000 comitem item. We are activating the funds, happens that the area of budget do not want to control for funds first time. It was suggested by you on the cover of Eligibility, the even worked correctly. The problem now informing rule for all possible variations that will be very difficult to becoming almost impossible, like in a way where there was necessary to inform a rule in a coverage.

Sorry, my english is very poor.

Could you provide your email so we can send you the screen?, unfortunately here I could not attach the same.

[Former Member]

Hi,

You can use automatic cover eligibility rule.

Are you sure that you need to use funds?Or you can upload 2 budgets, using two version.

Eg

Version 1 upload with different funds(as you did befor)

Version 0 upload with dummy fund(the same as in version 1, but without analytic via funds).

In this case you can trigger avc without CE, and get a report with budget/plan via funds

[RCP]

Hi,

Depend on your needs you could also find another solution based on "derivation strategy for control object"

IIf you initialize the "Fund" field in the derivation strategy the AVC will not take into account the fund.

Public Sector Management --> Funds Management Government --> Budget Control System (BCS) --> Availability Control --> Settings for Availability Control Ledger --> Define Derivation Strategy for Control Objects

Best regards,

Rafa.