SDN member with the worst post-to-points ratio?

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

It's not unusual, unfortunately, to come across a question by a member with hundreds of posts and 0 points. Sometimes I reply and try to chastise them, sometimes I just ignore them. But today I came across, I think, a Leecher Extraordinaire.

Meet - SDN member from 2007, created 1,195 posts (486 questions) and a proud owner of the whole 2 points.

I know we're all busy and sometimes just don't have time to contribute, but even if 'anusha' bothered to r-e-w-a-r-d others for replying to his/her questions, he/she would've already had hundreds of points. There was an old post about lurkers/leechers, but this guy is quite something, wow! Way to utilize SDN...

What's the worst post-to-point ratio you have seen so far? And why do "gurus" keep providing free consulting services to such major leechers?

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

As a person who started the thread, I'd like to request the moderators to lock it since it has gone in a completely different direction and, even in that direction I feel there is nothing more to add after the replies above.

Thank you.

[Sijin_Chandran]

Hello All ,

I had a doubt to discuss with , since long. Please help me to clarify the things and I would be very grateful for the same and for that purpose only I re invoked this thread.

One of my friend Ashish Mishra's (**email address removed by moderator**) account has been deleted from this forum, despite following all the rules mentioned in this forum and providing very quality contents by him.

And I want to discuss this thing with all you senior and learned members here ( except one ) so that me and my friend can understand the exact reason for taking such awry step.

He was a bronze member by now and he is not at all bothered about points , but just need the answer for taking such disturbing step and justification.

The member whom he suspects had deleted his account will be very obvious to you all by referring this attached screen shot.

Kindl Apologise if I had done anything wrong by making such post.

Message was edited

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

Sijin, perhaps the moderators can step it and clarify but, without having all the information about what transpired exactly, I can only say that if anyone managed to make G.Lakshmipathi mad then they have done something very, very bad.

[Former Member]

Sijin,

me and my friend can understand the exact reason for taking such awry step.

Probably can help to find out the exact reason for this step. In the past, he has helped clarify these kind ...

Ashish Mishra's (**email address removed by moderator**) ....... providing very quality contents by him

Indeed Former Member has posted helpful and creative replies in the SD forum.

I appreciate that despite this "issue", he is continuing to help by actively participating.

Keep it up Ashish!

Side comment: On a general note: Sometimes we know that there would be no appreciation or returns, if we put in more thought to come up with "better" SAP solutions for our clients but still we go ahead and do the extra work...it is not for the returns (in any form) but the spirit to "do a good job" and to be true to yourself (i.e. an SAP consultant).

Added: Maybe you could have created a new thread as opposed to using this thread.

In future, if a member has a similar issue (i.e. membership disable), it would be very very difficult to locate these posts due to the thread name and the initial posts.

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[Lakshmipathi]

It is really surprising that when you are able to attach screen shot of one of my comments, why you have not attached rest of my comments also which has already been shared in the sales forum.

The fact of user id deletion of Ashish Mishra is despite of my repeated requests, he has continued to copy paste from other source and most importantly, I have warned him that this is strictly prohibited in forum, he ignored my request and continued.  Also the fact is most of his earlier threads were received my attention with abuse button clicked by other members for copy pasting. 

Under the circumstances, I referred his case to SCN forum who have initiated this.  The procedure what SCN team following is at first instance, if we found that a member has copy pasted, we give a warning message followed by a strong warning if they continue.  In your friend's case, since it has exceeded the limit, I had to refer his case to SCN team who have deleted his user id.  Hope to have justified my stand.

Other than this, I have no personal intention to initiate such drastic action against any members.

G. Lakshmipathi

[Sijin_Chandran]

Agreed that you asked about copy pasting , but you can refer that thread again where he asked you to show from where the contents have been copied and pasted. After that there was no response from you justifying your statement.

And regarding your query raised for detailing the informations , its no where mentioned in forum rules . In fact it is mentioned that posts should me made informative and  worthy.

You messaged a private message to him which I have pasted and after his response there was no  response from you. You straight away deleted the account.

And in this thread also it is mentioned that for some cases moderation is very strict I find this a perfect example for that.

[Sijin_Chandran]

Hello Sir ,

The same I have to say about him also . His contents are very informative and to the point always.

So it becomes very difficult to accept such drastic steps.

Very thanks for these motivating lines

Side comment: On a general note: Sometimes we know that there would be no appreciation or returns, if we put in more thought to come up with "better" SAP solutions for our clients but still we go ahead and do the extra work...it is not for the returns (in any form) but the spirit to "do a good job" and to be true to yourself (i.e. an SAP consultant). 

He has again started with a new ID and is on his way to become a Successful SAP consultant.

And Sir I posted this comment here so that almost all the learned members and moderators here can be highlighted with this issue.

[Lakshmipathi]

If you dont know the background of this case, please check with your friend and check whether he has been warned only once.  I dont want to drag this issue anymore.

G. Lakshmipathi

[Former Member]

LAKSHMIPATI GANESAN

How can he check, if his friend can't access the account anymore.BTW what is wrong in positing informative post I mean with screen shot and all and have you learned SAP without touching it.

Take Care.

[Sijin_Chandran]

I know everything about this case  nothing background or foreground.

When you were asked about showing  the proof of  coping and pasting , you have no answer to say and also regarding detailing of information also it has not been mentioned anywhere in the forum rules.

So it feels really unjustified from your side for the step you have taken and it simply makes me think as an  unjustified usage of power.

And I am not here to drag this issue instead I wanted some expert views regarding such disturbing actions , which I have already got from a wise member like T W .

And it makes me feel posting this was worth.

[Lakshmipathi]

the proof of  coping and pasting , you have no answer to say

Though it is not necessary for me to justify my stand, still check the below thread

It is evident from the above thread, I have not taken any drastic action at the first instance.  After several warnings only, action has been initiated.

G. Lakshmipathi

[Former Member]

This message was moderated.

[ThomasZloch]

Now that evidence was given again, please keep in mind to not copy/paste texts in the future, this is selling other peoples output as your own and will not be tolerated, even if sold under the "being helpful and informative" label.

Please adjust to moderator messages the first time around. If you feel you are not being treated fairly, or not enough evidence is given, open a new post in "SCN Support" so everybody can weigh in on the case.

Thomas

[Sijin_Chandran]

I have seen that thread and also the contents of page ( from which you say that information have been copied ) cannot be copied or taken to clipboard.

And you can also see that there is difference in information from the one which was posted and that from your link.

Concepts and information are same everywhere and so the English language . So its nothing weird if we find two contents similar.

What I think the issue was he ( Ashish Mishra )  responded earlier and that too with lots of information and detail.

[Former Member]

Lakshmi ,

I wan't to inform you that I have discussed the same with SCN and I have got my id back ( Truth Triumphs Alone with wise members only ).

Thanks to all learned and wise members here for considering this issue and for your valuable views.

And kind apologies to all wise members for making such discussion here.

And i request Sijin to make a halt to this discussion.

[Former Member]

Dear Sir ,

I haven't copied anything and I had made it very clear earlier also.

And regarding making a new post , I posted here so that this issue can be highlighted before sapiential members like you.

[Former Member]

Ashish,

FYI: Please check if in your retrived account "points functionality" is activated / enabled.

E.g.

Based on some "tests", below observations follow:

1) When someone presses like on your post, your points are not increasing / changing

2) When you press like on a members post, his/her points are not updating

If you already have some information about this, kindly update.

[Former Member]

Dear Sir ,

I have checked this .

Yeah I am facing this weird situation.

But I didn't want to highlight it here as i felt it might not be appropriate.

I can't even guess what might be the Back door game being played regarding this issue.

Can you tell me how can i resolve this problem ?

[Former Member]

Ashish,

I donot think there is any "game" being played.

As Thomas Zloch suggested create a thread with this issue (describing the details), they shall help.

Side comment: Maybe all this ("disabling of your account") it is just an unlucky accident.

FYI (as I have read many posts in SCN and Toolbox.com posted by G Lakshmipathi) G Lakshmipathi is one of the fairest, most polite and hardworking members and moderators. He has helped many many members by spreading his knowledge in SAP SD.

Side comment: Maybe this can be a point of learning for SCN from a technical perspective i.e. "switching on/off of points functionality" (if this is a bug )

[Former Member]

Dear Sir ,

Once again you have really played a great role as a senior with this comment.

And sorry for any ill comment by me. I know that he is a knowledgeable member and I have respect for him. But I was not able to find anything wrong by detailing the information ( with screen shot ) and helping others  , everyone has got his / her own way to show their concern about others queries and reply their queries.

Side comment: Maybe this can be a point of learning for SCN from a technical perspective i.e. "switching on/off of points functionality" (if this is a bug  )

I am going to mail the SCN support team about this.

And hope it will help.

[PhaniKalvagunta]

Ashish,

I have been following this thread with interest.

Nice to see that you have fought back your way and got your ID restored.

A suggestion from my side.

Please do not spoon feed the information to the members - whether it complies with forum rules or not.

If you spoon feed ,instead of helping the members  it will make them lazy .And it will not serve your good intentions either.I appreciate your suggestions for complex issues but for basic issues ask them to search the forum and try on the system.This will help them in long run.

Don't give them fish, but teach them fishing

Phani Prasad

[Former Member]

Ashish,

But I was not able to find anything wrong by detailing the information ( with screen shot ) and helping others  , everyone has got his / her own way to show their concern about others queries and reply their queries.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with detailed posts, on the contrary detailed posts demand more from the member (writing the post) and many a times it is more helpful e.g. describing the detailed logic for a enhancement / requirement and indicating the "place" to write the code is helpful than to just mentioning the name of a userexit.

In posts, I have always tried to give "some additional remarks" on possible "risk areas", other workaround solutions, business examples. With an aim of not only helping the OP but also helping myself (thinking that when a similar business requirement comes to me, during my day job, I would have already done some "practice" already)

If a detailed post helps (you or the OP) and it is relevant to the thread, then by all means go for it!

Also remember, to summarize at the beginning or the end, so that the value (of your message) does not get lost in the details.

[Former Member]

Hello everyone,

I am with the SCN Team and I have been following this discussion for a couple of days. Today I want to intervene to clarify a couple of things:

1/ It is usually not a good forum practice to "hijack" a thread, i.e.  post a comment in a thread created to address something that was not the original discussion. In the future, I recommend that you start a new thread when you have a new topic to discuss. Best is to "search before posting" to make sure it hasn't been discussed already 😉 then start a new thread.

2/ I would like to highlight that SCN wouldn't be where it is today without the help of Moderators like . Moderators are truly passionate SAP Professionals who dedicate their time to ensure quality on SCN and help community members learn and contribute in a good community spirit. G. Lakshmipathi has been doing an outstanding job in the forums and I know he follows our strict rules before asking the SCN team to disable a user that has not respected the rules of engagement.

3/ The rules of engagement clearly state the following:

"Infringement on copyright – If after reviewing a submission to the SAP Community Network, we find that some of the material in the document appears to contain inappropriate content, it will be removed on those grounds.  As a reminder, the SAP Community Network Terms of Use, found at http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/policy, require that all content submitted to SAP Community Network must be original content created by the author or reproduced with the permission of the content copyright owner. If you want to post on SCN previously published quotations or passages (from print or web sources), illustrations, photographs, or graphics, you must have written permission or license from the content owner."

This means no copy-pasting from another source.

We know that not everyone in SCN is aware of these rules, and we want to be fair. That is why our Moderators give warnings before taking action such as requesting a user to be disabled.

4/ Ashish Mishra your account was disabled for a reason, I do not understand why it was brought back, and will investigate. It has now been disabled again. We welcome you to come back with a different ID and build a new reputation, but kindly ask you to read the rules of engagement again and comply with them. Feel free to ask questions about how to participate in this forum in About SCN. We can guide you to ensure your engagement on SCN is successful.

Regards,

Laure

[Lakshmipathi]

Thanks Laure for stepping in and for your support

G. Lakshmipathi

[Former Member]

You're welcome, this is the right thing to do.

Laure

[Sijin_Chandran]

Hello Madam ,

I would like to say that I have already asked for kind apologise for  re invoking this thread ( Hijacking this thread ). I did this only so that all the important members here can be highlighted with this issue at the earnest.

And I assure you that this will not be repeated from my side again .

[Former Member]

Laure,

In order to get some clarity and comment by a member of the SCN Team

Ashish:
I was not able to find anything wrong by detailing the information ( with screen shot ) and helping others  , 

Is there any rule related to (or against) posting a "detailed post"?

Thank you, in advance!

[Sijin_Chandran]

Dear Sir ,

I have highlighted this thing many a times here.

That where it has been mentioned that  detailing the information should not be there in forum rules.

And this was the main issue.

And also as already told by me earlier , the contents were not copied . Ashish might have learned concepts form G Lakshmipathi's links but he shared them with others in his own way.

Concepts and information are same everywhere and so the English language . So its nothing weird if we find two contents similar.

[Lakshmipathi]

@ TW

Is there any rule related to (or against) posting a "detailed post"?

Certainly not but YES, if the query is of basic or a repeated one.  For basic query, spoon feeding is definitely not allowed.

G. Lakshmipathi

[Former Member]

Dear Sir ,

My account is getting activated and deactivated like a vehicle's left or right turning indicator.

I am giving up with my earlier account.

So that people's against this post can take a breath of relief.

And I am already there with new id.

I am sure by now that i will not be granted with justice for deleting my account reason being I have ho power.

[Former Member]

Hi,

In SCN ,Like is Good word with so  value it had as encourage or proud or not describe this word in whereevr but in SCN also, Like is continue with these type of strong words for some buddies not like all people why because some people malpractice with this Like to increase thier points but you have sent mail to me as I did copy and paste and also you have mentined as I got points as negative roles .This was too much activity in you.I respect all Moderators (Particularely Lakshmi Pathi Sir warned 1 or 2 times when i was started or new stage why because i dont know this SCN rules in new days.After that ,I gave up to do that activity and start give the my own before and after also ..still now also .

Where is the rule if surename is same then ,your opinion was ,he was my relative ?. Why folks doesnt present with whoever surname as same .

You know one thing is ,some people became as bronge or silver in over-over night with the Likes ( I dont reavel thier names,I think ,this can know to Moderators very well ,who did this activity ).

I am one of the Memeber ,I also learning FI Point of views ,you can see ,I like  some guys Posts especially ,Ajay Maheswari sir ,Ravisankar Venna sir ,Atif Farooq like all when I so intresting on thier queries . One FI guy became down stage to Up stage now .What did you do on this ? .

Some guys were present behind me ,now they become/present fron side with Likes .

Go and see/check once agian Please .

Request : I sincearly request to SCN Team ,Please delete LIKE word in Queries .

Regards : I always obey SCN rules ..............why because our moderators especially Lakshmi Pathi sir percepective with strictly ,nicely and beautifully .

Forgive me If you sad with my post.

Thanks ,

Naren

[Lakshmipathi]

Narendra

people became as bronge or silver in over-over night with the Likes ( I dont reavel thier names,

If you happen to come across who is involving with points gaming, please help us with the related thread by clicking abuse button, as it is highly impossible for Moderators to check each and every thread.  By doing so, you can reduce our work load to a great extent.

G. Lakshmipathi

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

Folks, I'm really touched to see that you've missed me. Thank you. There was some problem with my S-user that took several days to resolve, but I can finally login now and even got my medal back. Funny thing - considering that now my "joined" date is 5/27/11, I must be the absolute SDN record holder for points-per-day-on-SDN.

[Former Member]

Also known as FB01 Journal Entry...

Actually, you are lucky to have the links to your posts. If your S-account is deleted in the SMP by past employers, the a sync is performed with SDN and guestifies the account.

It makes sense to request a merge before this happens, or use a P-account (private, and known only to SDN).

Welcome back!

Julius

[Former Member]

Welcome back.

Regards, Vinod.

[former_member184657]

Funny thing - considering that now my "joined" date is 5/27/11, I must be the absolute SDN record holder for points-per-day-on-SDN. 

I got fooled by this too when I was still new to the forum. I was stunned to see Vijay Babu Dudla (who got his account merged like you) accumulate 10,000+ points in some 3 months.

pk

[David]

Ah yes. Well, nothing is perfect in life. For those who have a "points migration" or whatever you want to call it, the actual process is to update the database records for the points with the new userid. This in no way alters anything about the new userid including the registration date. If it were a perfect world, the first level support people who do this would note the original registration date on the old ID and then edit the LDAP record of the new one to reflect that same date. If you want, you can always write back in to them and tell them you want your userid updated to reflect the old date. However, at that point you will have to tell them the old date as by this point, the old ID is gone so they have no way to look it up. It is best to ask them in the initial request to also update the new userid with the old ID's registration date.

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

David, thanks for an explanation. I'll have to figure out what my initial registration date was (this is my 3rd S-user). Kind of wondering though - who would NOT want their date to be updated when migrating from one S-user to another? I'd assume this would be a part of the procedure...

(Now I'm starting to sound like our SAP business users - never happy. )

[Former Member]

another one:

Ganimede Dignan

Posts: 695

Registered: 2/15/07

Forum Points: 0

[NathanGenez]

I too notice this and it really irks me.

The process to earn points is not efficient or systematic so it doesn't surprise me if someone has made 50 total posts and received 0 points. But at some point you just can't defend it... to be that involved and active on SCN yet provide no real benefit is shameful. You've got to be really bold and completely unaware of anyone else to have those two numbers by your name.

I've brought this up on the Moderators forum as well and to me, if you have 100 posts there should be some calculation that kicks in... can't post for a week unless your ratio gets up to 5% or something like that. I think SCN is against enforcing a policy that would create more encouragement for users to pay attention to points or further trick the system. I understand that point of view but again, you just can't defend this particular instance.

-nathan

[Former Member]

I am also initially allergic to such folks, particularly when they use seperate accounts to ask questions than their account which they use to chase the ponits.

By the same notion, there is nothing wrong IMO with 0 visible ponits and a few or even lots of posts, if the questions themselves and follow-up are valuable contributions which produce interesting discussions, action, product feedback, etc etc etc.

What does bug me is those who use SCN only as a support site and at the same time do not respect the sanctity of the rules of engagement (some do it intentionally) nor those who answer their questions (some do it naively, but then sometimes leave SCN completely when they notice that they are being taken for a ride without moderator intervention).

Well... the ponits system spawns a lot of necessary moderator intervention and deters a lot of (knowledgable and also simply level headed) people away from SCN.

Those who stay, often become "ponits rivals" instead of "content collaborators" and the symptom is spoonfeeding leechers who are gud rubarbers.

The only current solution I have found usefull is patience, restraint and the reject button in the Abuse Reports consol. The Test&Playground forum is a workaround which will hopefully be solved by a dedicated place for it.

Having said that, I have a lot of faith in making SCN a friendlier place for all when SAP addresses some of the core irritations... this takes some time but is progressing IMO.

(the MS-PowerPoint and MS-Project operators who believed that one should not change a "working" system at all have all been fired

Cheers,

Julius

[Former Member]

Calling other SDNers names ('leechers') and ascribing attributes ('proud owner' - where did he/she claim that) is uncalled for.

What really is your grouse here - that someone is asking too many questions? What is next on your complaint list - "world is not fair?"?

[Former Member]

Calling other SDNers names ('leechers') and ascribing attributes ('proud owner' - where did he/she claim that) is uncalled for.
What really is your grouse here - that someone is asking too many questions? What is next on your complaint list - "world is not fair?"? 

Since SCN is not a paid service and just a community activity helping each other in the community....if somebody is always taking help from others and not helping anybody anytime...we cannot treat them as a member of the society with true spirit. There is nothing wrong with the community in expecting contribution (in the areas where they are familiar with) from those members who are expecting help from others. Those who are not taking any help are never called as leechers even if they are not contributing.

Educating the members about the need to follow the rules of engagement and also motivating them to contribute is an ongoing process. The members who understood the importance of following rules and the importance of contributions, should feel the responsibility of educating others. Please help the community to keep it a better place or atleast let us do not dicourage others who are doing the good work.

Thanks,

Ravi

[Former Member]

Just for arguments' sake

if somebody is always taking help from others and not helping anybody anytime...we cannot treat them as a member of the society with true spirit.

Next you would want to throw out all the disabled poor seniors from your community - for they might be good only for taking from the givers and be able to not give much if anything.

I know that was rhetorical. So was your spiel.

Calling specific individuals out in this manner is not helpful - assuming you are trying to help and not massage your oversize ego.

[Former Member]

... assuming you are trying to help and not massage your oversize ego.

A case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Play nicely, please.

Rob

[Former Member]

I guess, you are misunderstanding me. My intention was not to encourage argument and also not to hurt anybody's feelings.

Next you would want to throw out all the disabled poor seniors from your community 

I donot understand the words...disabled poor seniors. Seniority comes from experience and they just need to share their experiences when somebody is facing similar problem that they have faced earlier. Everybody (irrespective of seniority) will have good understanding on few concepts and they can contribute whenever somebody needs help in that area.

[Former Member]

Ravi,

I guess any explanation will be too belabored so let me not try. I will just say I do not disagree with what you are saying, and neither was my original and follow-up comment about what you said specifically - it was directed to the original post.

Rob the Commenter,

Pot calling.....

Umm.. Whatever..

Rob the Moderator,

Play nicely.....

OK.

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

Calling other SDNers names ('leechers') and ascribing attributes ('proud owner' - where did he/she claim that) is uncalled for.

Sorry - I'm calling it as I see it. "Leecher" is a well-known forum term, not a "name calling". People who only "leech" information from the forum without contributing anything are "the leechers". If it offends someone - stop leeching.

The goal of my post was to bring this issue to the community's attention and also explore the reasons why the "leechers" keep getting support (regarding which some good points have already been posted). Calling my concern a "rouse" - now I'm the one who should feel offended...

[Former Member]

I believe both Jelena and Ajay are correct, we should probably blame this confusion on Internet

When we communicate over internet/ social medium, there is always a possibility of miscommunication. For Jelena, using the term "Leecher" was not derogatory but for Ajay it might have seemed so. if we had been talking face to face, the miscommunication might not have happened.

Now, i am not trying to be a judge but just a fellow SCN member, lets be a sport and blame it on miscommunication

Thanks

Aamir

[Former Member]

Completely agree with you Aamir!

I also use expressions such as "because they say that it causes many problems" and "so ask them who did it" and "may your armpits become infested with the flees of a thousand camels".

It is meant figuratively, but the reader feels personally addresed. Some people (IMO many bloggers for example) have big egos, so when refering to them, then they might feel like the "you" context when reading the text. And other innocent bystanders of "drive-by-blogging" and "post-from-the-hip" can be hit by this type of internet schrapnel as well

http protocoll gets a yellow card. Please continue

Julius

[Former Member]

There are people who post some seriously good and challenging questions. They may not have high points but , in a way, they are contributing to the forum. But unfortunately, we cannot keep a track of those people who only post good questions. In SDN we only keep a track of those people who give answers.

Br,

Karun

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

In SDN we only keep a track of those people who give answers.

This is true. There was a suggestion made a while ago (in the 'Suggestion' forum, I believe) to switch from the points to "reputation", like in some other forums. In this way any registered user would be able to add to anyone else's reputation, either for a post or for a reply.

But it looks like we'll have to hold our breath for few more months and wait for the "major changes" mentioned by Stephen.

Thank you, everyone, for the replies.

[former_member184657]

Thank you, everyone, for the replies.

But you haven't got a single reply for your original question:

What's the worst post-to-point ratio you have seen so far? And why do "gurus" keep providing free consulting services to such major leechers?

Well yes, I've seen a more-worse posts-to-points ratio. And I guess all ABAP Moderators know about a certain Aarav, who has a 1000-plus posts with 500 plus questions(this number does not include questions that have been deleted) and Zero points.

Also agree with you on the "leacher" terminology. It's a common term used in Internet parlance - No eyesbrows raised.

pk

[bpawanchand]

I think I have found one in the workflow forum.. The most interesting part was his posts in workflow...... Iam not very much sure about whether or not can I reveal, but let me give his numbers

Member Since 2009, total post 229, forum points 0.

[Former Member]

Jelena Perfiljeva ? Guestified? Something must be wrong with this website

[ThomasZloch]

I'm stunned as well, will see what I can find out.

Thomas

[Former Member]

I'm stunned as well

Even me too. It is a big shock to me. Not sure what has happened. Infact, she is one of my favourite members in SDN and I follow most of her contributions. Jelena is a very good techno functional consultant especially in Sales and Distribution area.

[ThomasZloch]

Absolutely. Our superadmin Dave doesn't know anything either, she might have requested deletion of her ID for whatever reason.

I will try to contact her through other channels, if she replies and allows me to report here, I will do so.

Thomas

Update: she moved places and lost her S-UserID in the process, will be back with a new ID.

Edited by: Thomas Zloch on May 24, 2011 5:00 PM

[Former Member]

>>she moved places and lost her S-UserID in the process, will be back with a new ID.

Much delighted to hear that We are ready to welcome the new avatar of Jelena

Regards

Jai

[SuhaSaha]

> Update: she moved places and lost her S-UserID in the process, will be back with a new ID.

Whatever the reason her UID got guestified, it's good to know Jelena will be back

[Lakshmipathi]

Yes almost in all forums, members are there like the one you had brought to our attention. If we notice these OP's threads, almost they can find answers had they searched the forum or google but they expect spoon feeding from the forum.

In such cases, what I will do is that as a first step, I ask them to search before posting and also ask them to update the forum properly once their issue is addressed but invariably, they dont do this. So again as a second step, I will caution them that if they continue their practice like this, they wont get suggestions from the members. I had stopped giving suggestions to such few members. If every member start doing like this, then only, I think, these guys will change their attitude.

Last but not least, my sincere thanks / appreciation to you for the efforts taken by you.

thanks

G. Lakshmipathi

[Former Member]

I too agree to what lakshmipathi has said , that without searching the forum questions are asked . This sometimes gets distrubing as for a issues that you had provided solution few days back again crops up .....

On the contrary i have also seen that threads are being locked by our moderators , which results in no reply situation for the thread .

Thats where the moderators have played there part well and it is really appriciable . Going forward if we adopt the same strategy of moderating the forum tightly then there wouldbe no go situation like this .....

3 cheers .... to moderators ...

Cheers ,

Dewang

[ThomasZloch]

Appreciate it (on behalf of all moderators). There are also complaints about too strict moderation, "hall of shame" effects etc. It is not easy to find the golden balance between too strict and too slack, we're constantly discussing and working on it.

@Harish, forum points are only a part of the story, somebody might not be that active in forums, but a massive blogger or wiki editor. Click on the points link in the forum posts for each person and study all tabs in the contribution overview.

Thomas

[Former Member]

Perhaps the word "anusha" means "team" and "vemulapati" means "post-implementation" in Gujarati or Hindi?

Worth keeping an eye on that the "account" is not abusive, but other than that there is no rule against only asking questions. Good questions are IMO also good contributions.

Cheers,

Anusha Moderapati

[Former Member]

... but even if 'anusha' bothered to r-e-w-a-r-d others for replying to his/her questions, he/she would've already had hundreds of points. 

Well, s/he actuall has 441 points (as of now).

Not justifying - just for the sake of accuracy

Additionally - that two points was given whan asking a "follow-up" to someone else's question.

Rob

Edited by: Rob Burbank on May 5, 2011 3:09 PM

[Former Member]

Arising from that, why does the record only show 2 points. I also spotted a silver or platinum star holder, with only 41 pinots or so in more than 5 years, Judging from the star against the name, and the quality of answers provided, I am pretty sure he must have 1000's of ponits, but only 41 show in his user profile?

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

Well, s/he actuall has 441 points (as of now).

OK, now I see the issue. The "points for assigning points" are not included in the 'Forum points', they are 'Additional points'. Either in the forum post or when opening the profile, we can only see 'Forum points' (only 2). To get to the actual number of points we need to click on Business Card, where 'Total Points' are displayed (442 currently). Then if we click on the Total Points, we can see the details on where they came from. (Moderators might have easier access to this than mere mortals.)

So I owe an apology to 'anusha vemulapati' fo suggesting that he/she doesn't r-e-w-a-r-d (could this word be allowed at least in the Coffe Corner?) others. This still qualifies him/her as a major leecher (yes, I said it again!) though.

Is there any reason why only 'forum points' are displayed in the profile? To me this doesn't make much sense... I would prefer to see all the points. Not that my replies are driven by the number, but I'd definitely prefer to actively support other contributors (even if it's not a forum contribution).

[stephenjohannes]

I'm going to respond to this issue in the following points:

- Yes there are people who don't give back to the community in proportion to what the receive/take from the community, however calling them names won't solve the problem

- Irrational jealously of other members of the community and using that a means to attack those who are trying to help improve the community doesn't work either.

That being said there are major changes down the road in the next six months to year that will address/attempt to fix most of the long term issues that I see happening. In the meanwhile we are going to have to realize that until that happens we make to make due with status quo.

In terms of dealing with those that don't give back, there are two basic approaches to handle this:

1) Don't answer their questions.

2) Don't worry about it and just contribute in other ways such as creating wiki content instead of answering forum questions.

3) Don't focus on earning points, just worry about helping other people out by sharing knowledge from your experience where it was not so obivous or you wouldn't want someone else to repeat your pain/mistake in resolving an issue.

Take care,

Stephen

[brad_bohn]

Is there any reason why only 'forum points' are displayed in the profile? To me this doesn't make much sense... I would prefer to see all the points.

<Sarcasm>I vote for more badge colors and icons to clear things up...</Sarcasm>