on 2013 Jul 29 6:19 AM
Hi All,
Does scn community reputation(points and levels etc) helps in getting job or hikes in companies??
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Rakesh.
Request clarification before answering.
There is maybe a cultural difference, but I am certain that many western bosses do not like to see their employees spending paid time on SCN (except for getting help)
Hence I would never include this info in an interview. I know they ask about where you inform yourself if you get stuck with a problem, and here it is worth to tell that you know about SCN among other sources.
If people think that reputation points and levels are worth to be mentioned, and important for getting jobs, then I hope that those people care about SCN in general and help to keep the quality of content high and the point cheating out.
Otherwise your earned reputation becomes quick subject to inflation, is not worth anything because a bunch of people ( and companies with " fixed target on SCN points") is destroying the whole place with plagiarism and fraudulence
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Jürgen, I aprreciate your comment. I would like comment two points:
1 - Reputation Points - Since earned honestly they are a knowledge evdiences. However it does't tell everything about the professional skills like certification exam. I can say because the best consultants I know are zero point in SCN.
2 - Using the SCN - During the day I receive 2 or 3 contacts from colleagues looking for help. I got it when I have free time. I am not concerned about the customer because every consultant has your own network and one day everyone will need it. The SCN does exactly the same using the internet. What is wrong is the excessive time taken.
all the best
Exactly. And maybe I was a little harsh with my reply about SCN reputation. First, I wouldn't think it's worth mentioning unless you are talking thousands of points. Second, I think my primary point was that the folks that are experts, and have enough points that might be worth mentioning and really have earned their SCN points, usually have so many projects under their belt, special developments or processes they have set up in SAP, Conferences or professional seminars they have spoken at, papers presented, recommendations from clients, real life experiences, etc... that a simple point total on SCN really kind of pales in comparison.
You have a limited amount of space on a resume or application to catch a prospective client/employer's eye. It shouldn't be used on how many points you got in SCN. The client usually cares more about what you have actually done, not how many points you got on an internet forum.
FF
Jürgen L wrote:
There is maybe a cultural difference, but I am certain that many western bosses do not like to see their employees spending paid time on SCN (except for getting help)
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Jürgen exactly that!
Many companies do not notice that the employee improves their knowledge to help other people, and this knowledge also helps the business.
Nevertheless always do research and hope to find ready answers about their problems in some forum!
Funny is not it?
Gilson
Marssel Vilaça wrote:
1 - Reputation Points - Since earned honestly they are a knowledge evdiences.
I should say: "Since earned honestly, they are other people lack of knowledge evidence."
Rep Points in SCN is like "followers" or "friends" in other social networks. Those numbers don't show how interesting/skilled a nickname is, but the amount of people who probably are less interesting/skilled than him.
In SCN they are worse, because, as it has been said, scam the system is too easy.
Yes, I completely agree to you. In fact there is a thread where someone (might be students) are complaining against each other about rewarding points. Someone put a common question and other one replied instantly. Next, replied it as answered and gained some points and vice versa... This way they presented their contribution (might be to the faculty/higher management) and others complained... If I get the link I will share.
You got some interesting feedback here, what do you say?
Posting questions and never returning or following up might prevent you from getting jobs or hikes, independent of SCN points levels.
Thomas
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I use my real name and encourage any potential employer to check my SCN profile (they'd be fools not to do that anyway). It is not to showcase my "medals" or points, but so that they could see my communication style and understand that SCN is an important part of what I do. If an employer would be uncomfortable with me spending some time online (without a negative effect on the workload, of course) to learn more about SAP and to contribute (which is the best way to learn), then we're just not meant for each other.
But to bring up only the SCN point level as some kind of a major career achievement is just silly IMHO.
P.S. This question has been asked before, look it up.
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Rakesh,
Does scn community reputation(points and levels etc) helps in getting job or hikes in companies??
I would go into to some "grey areas" that might cause members to disagree with me!
Reputation is not points earned or levels reached.
SCN reputation might help in getting a job when a scn member knows your "knowledge level" because he/she has been reading your posts. And this member refers you for a position / job.
In SCN, points given (excluding the likes) are the subjective judgement of the OP.
The subjective judgement of the OP might be correct or might be incorrect!
A member can gain a lot of points, by answering only in one area (of a module).
This might not make him suitable for a job; but this member might have earned lots of points (and a high level)!
SCN is different from working on a real-time assignment.
When we answer a post, we take probably 5-30min. but at work we do through analysis, research, testing etc. etc.
Thus gaining "glory" in SCN requires different skills than performing well at work.
Note: I have not included "incorrect" ways of earning points.
The legitimate / honest way of earning lots of points too, does not imply that one would be good at his (SAP) work...thus it is doubtful that this person should get a good job and get hikes etc.
If one has good knowledge, skills, past experience (at work); then he/she could mention (as a plus) that he/she participates and has achieved x points or y level in SCN.
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Hi
I agree with Jurgen that it depends on your interviewer. If he knows about SCN and if he is optimistic guy then he'd have a soft corner for you if you tell him about your reputation and points on SCN. If he don't know about SCN then you need to explain in detail first that what SCN is and how it helps SAP consultants
I have mentioned it in my resume and I had an interview with a consultancy company. It was a telephonic interview and the guy asked me that you have only support experience then how you are so sue that you can work well in consultancy too and I just replied that I have complete knowledge about my area which I got from SCN and I am also in top contributors and after this he didn't ask any technical question and came to the salary negotiation but I dont think so this will apply on every interviewer. It depends on his approach towards contributing on SCN.
Great post Jurgen and 13 likes are amazing I can expect this kind of appraisal for you.
Thank$
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Unless I was asked to be a mentor by SAP or had some other special SAP relationship I would not consider the SCN reputation to be worth much of a mention. It's too easy to scam the points system for one. Two, just because you got a lot of points doesn't really mean you know squat or can interact with a team and work as a team player.
I certainly hope that companies do not use the SCN reputation as a measure for hiring or raises.
For most of the people I know here that have high point totals or are SAP mentors, the SCN reputation is probably the least notable achievement of their career, (sorry SCN). With limited white space to get a prospective client's/employers's attention, I'm not wasting it with my SCN point totals.
If I saw someone highlighting their SCN reputation in their CV, resume or job application, it would probably be quickly discarded.
FF
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Hi Rakesh,
I believe that rather than getting points for job benefits or hikes, etc, I would try to earn them more as evaluation indicators of our involvement and contributions in the SCN community. I see it as an opportunity to learn, contribute and get some feedback on our views and contributions. It would also give us more confidence and validation of our knowledge. And the best part is the diverse community views which everyone shares and understanding of different industry lines.
All the above will definitely be a help in your job or getting hikes . So way to go for scoring points and earning levels. All the best!
Vaibhav
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hi Rakesk,
This can be shown as a added advantage at the time of Interview. it shows your interest in exploring topics in sap and Some of the companies had fixed target on SCN points, it would be a bit helpful at the time of Appraisal.
in my view using Scn and scoring points gives me more confident and good learnings.
With Regards
Prakash.S
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Rakesh,
Obviously it helps. SCN reputation is a professional knowledge reference.
Keep in mind it isn't a guarantee of employment. The Professional Resume and personal recomendation are the best way to get good positions.
Best Regards
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