Knowledge Discovery and SAP BI

[former_member206200]

Guys,

This is a short survey to access extent of knowledge discovery with SAP BI and BO products. It will take less than 5 minutes.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=v09jBqS_2fxkl9ermorgEgsQ_3d_3d

[former_member206200]

Many thanks to those who have taken 3 minutes to complete the survey. The responses have been very useful. I simply ask for more participation for those who have not.

Kind Regards.

NB: Please just click the link, and it will take only 3 minutes to complete the survey.

[Former Member]

Are you going to share the survey results with us?

ps: I have deleted all your cross-posts. Please read the forum rules...

Julius

[former_member206200]

Hello Julius,

Offcourse I can share the result with SAP, if desired. I had wanted SAP to suppot the research originally.

[Former Member]

Perhaps you can publish the interim results?

Cheers,

Julius

[Former Member]

Hi

I might be able to give some anecdotal assistance. I am responsible for developing agendas fro the SAP Australian User Group events. Associated with this I have access to a large number of SAP industry presentations (nearly 10,000). I once did a search on presentations related to knowledge discovery and data mining. I found less than 10 and all these were SAP employees espousing the functionality of the Analysis Process Designer (data mining tool). SAP Australia has only run their data mining training course once and each time they have attempted to offer it again there is not enough enrolments. All the SAP Business Objects roadmaps do not mention the data mining tools. When I ask about these tools and the roadmaps the answer is the same that nothing is going to change. This seems strange when BOBJ uses SPSS Clematine (world leader) and you would expect that this would be migrated to SAP BI. But IBM have now purchased SPSS so this would cost SAP money for a tool which very few companies use so why bother.

So what can be concluded from this. Maybe companies are using the tool and don't want to present or they are getting such a competitive advantage they don't want to tell anyone. Maybe SAP customers are using a different tool but the APD is free with SAP BI. Maybe data mining is a reflection of BI maturity and very few companies have achieved this level of maturity. A Victorian University lecturer has conducted 2 sessions on data mining for the Australian SAP usser group and it has been standing room only. It will be interesting to see if there is incraesed adoption due to this exposure.

Good Luck

Paul Hawking

SAP Academic Program Director

Victoria University

Australia

[former_member206200]

Many thanks Martin.

I find your suggestions very useful. I have made permissible amendments to make the survey applicable to a wider respondence group without distorting the existing responses on the survey.

Your further help in getting this group respond will be highly appreciated.

I will send a personal email to you to discourse my previous correspondence to you regarding this research.

Regards

Fisayo.

[Former Member]

Hello Olubiyi,

Good survey and I'm glad to help out. I might suggest a few amendments though before you get any large scale response - just to make it as clear as possible.

1) I would remove the references to BI in the first question as many people even if they are involved in BI won't be just BI - particularly if they are senior management or routinely invovled in IT project management. There are plenty of BI specialists - but you won't find them here - perhaps if you place the survey on the BPX site as well? Obviously this is the BI forum but even so BI will only be a percentage of the activity of the respondents unless they are specialists

2) I'd suggest you have an option where you stop completing the rest of the survey if you haven't gotten involved in a BI project. You do ask the question, but then ask all of the subseuqent questions as if the person had said 'yes'.

3) I would ask what types of BI projects have been rolled out, where and was the person responding to the survery involved

4) Where you start to ask positives and negatives try and either be neutral or try and compensate by giving the option to the respondent to respond negatively or positively - this is an attempt to remove interviewier bias.

5) Try and restrict your questions to a single topic - 14 is rather undirected

6) If you are going to ask for cost questions you're better off asking not only for specific information but for client's own breakdown - a percentage can be an interpretation and can provide little information without the actual figures - difficult though they are to come by

7) Other than that - I'm happy to help but it's unlikely that too many people here will have BI experience as it's very new and will have spent most of their careers in education which rather precludes them answering questions about BI in energy say. So I'd suggest you also place this up on SDN and BPX once you've made one or two tweaks

Other than that - I wish you all the best and by all means if you want to put up another survey - be my guest!

Martin

Martin Gollogly

Director, University Alliances

United Kingdom and Ireland

[matt]

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> ... it's unlikely that too many people here will have BI experience as it's very new and will have spent most of their careers in education which rather precludes them answering questions about BI in energy say....

Where's "here"? I think we've lost some context somewhere...