Help help! The aliens are here!... :-)

[Former Member]

Many developers and technology service architects (former "basis") I have met were originally physicists, so I was hoping for a possible logical explanation from you guys before looking for a physics online community to ask the question.

Two days ago I thought I had developed a tinitus (ear defect which makes a high pitch singing sound) for a while. Eventually I went outside and this seemed to help a bit, but it still continued. When I went into the cellar it became particularly loud. Then talking to my nieghbour (I decided to go for a walk) she mentioned that she had a bad headache (of course I did not react to this...) but then mentioned that she has a singing sound in her head from it. Of course now I reacted and and we walked around a bit and confirmed that we could hear the same sound. We even went all the way to the village store (about 400m away) and it was there as well. The whole neighbourhood could hear it, except for old Mrs. Jecker...

The noise was everywhere but it was not possible to find out where it was coming from. At times it became louder (particularly if you went into a buidling) and at others it seemed to stop completely for a few moments.

After about an 1,5 hours, it stopped and did not return - leaving only irritation and lots of village gossip about what it speculatively might have been. Aliens, the military testing some ultra-sound weapon, etc etc

Anybody ever heard of this or experienced something similar?

Here is my explanation: On the previous day a land surveyor was on the property next to my house sub-dividing it into 5 plots and laying corner stones to mark the new boundaries. We were chatting about the fact that one of my boundaries was about 50 cm away from where the fence was built long ago. The guy let me look through the theodolite and was explaining that they now had an 8 cm tolerance for error when laying the boundardy stones and to check this they use satilites.

Now I know from sailing that the GPS system is intentionally inaccurate so that it cannot be used for private military purposes... and when mentioning this the land surveyor mentioned that they use 16 satelites simultaneously which together gives them a tolerance of 2 cm for pin-pointing the mark.

Is it possible that 16 satelites simultaneously "beaming" us at different frequencies could have caused metals and other solids to make these high pitched noises? Is this possible?

Please help! Only I can save the village...

[Jelena_Perfiljeva]

But the aliens are indeed here! My husband's passport reads "ALIEN'S PASSPORT" in English - I am kidding you not.

It is a special category of people invented by the government of Latvia, so called "non-citizens" (long story). This passport has been a constant source of amusement to the US border control.

[Former Member]

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> But the aliens are indeed here! My husband's passport reads "ALIEN'S PASSPORT" in English

We too come in the same category 'ALIENS' .We are called 'ALIENS' in Japan and also provided with an identification called 'ALIEN CARD'

Its funny being called 'ALIENS'... right?

Cheers

Andrew

[matt]

So long as you don't burst out of someones ribs...

[Former Member]

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> So long as you don't burst out of someones ribs...

:)..and as long people start calling 'Help Help! The aliens are here!..'

Cheers

Andrew

[Former Member]

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> So long as you don't burst out of someones ribs...

Never saw [Doctor Zoidberg|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Zoidberg] do that!

[Former Member]

@ JB

The alliens seem to have used this !

[Former Member]

Please be nice to him. We might still need the contact if things go wrong down here...

Other than confirmation that the government does use drones to survey and scan the country side for radio active material, there is no data available on when they do this. I guess they need to keep the element of surprize for possible illegal trade in such things.

Every now and again a case turns up, so I guess that countries who do not monitor this or have procedures in place to react to an event which might endanger the public have a bigger problem...

Unfortunately I also found another candidate for the scanning, but they do not publich data either... or stated more correctly "not yet".

http://www.news.admin.ch/message/index.html?lang=de&msg-id=18051

Quick English summary: The government is looking for locations to build a storage facility for radio active rubbish. The mountains around the village where I live made it onto the short-list.

Jura-Südfuss (Kantone SO und AG)

Cheers,

Julius

Edited by: Julius Bussche on Jun 12, 2009 9:04 AM

[matt]

Grief - there's enough genetic instability in your village caused by the inbreeding as it is, without adding another source!

[Former Member]

Now, now... we don't want to be splitting atoms just because of a little beeping sound or a nervous twitch...

According to the mayor, we are off the short-list since May and might have been used as guinee-pigs to test / calibrate / whatever the equipment for when the unfortunate folks (actually their mountains) who are still on the list are inspected further.

The contractors doing this (NAGRA) confirmed that they do this and that it was done in May, but do not publish dates.

I think I can safely close the thread now...

Cheers,

Julius

[former_member184657]

The no-points-in-coffee-corner-policy needs to be seriously reviewed.

Solutions that save-the-world should... if not anything else, be rewarded with ponits.

pk

[Former Member]

I was abducted by other aliens for a few days, but am back again. No hidding, just running as fast as I can

The land surveyor's office confirmed what Olivier has posted and gave me another tip, which might tie back to what Jan stated.

In Switzerland unmanned drones are used to scan the countryside for radioactive material (perhaps my 7.10 NSP attracted attention??) but so far no luck in finding data on when they were scanning and where.

I met with Matt for a beer on Wednesday, and he mentioned that similar observations were reported near Loch Ness.

I printed out the recipe (thanks Amit!) for my neighbour and she was delighted. I have such nice friends...

I will keep you posted.

Cheers,

Julius

[matt]

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> I met with Matt for a beer on Wednesday, and he mentioned that similar observations were reported near Loch Ness.

Well, [Bristol|http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8056284.stm]. I don't recall you having that much beer...

[Former Member]

The recording of "the hum" from the BBC article is very similar to what it sounded like. I couldn't remember the location, so Loch Ness was next best option..

I will think about contacting Katie (and possibly also suggest to her that she just move to a different house??)...

Cheers,

Julius

[former_member205352]

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> Please help! Only I can save the village... 

So plan for some MIB(Men in Black) operation

[JanStallkamp]

> Now I know from sailing that the GPS system is intentionally inaccurate so that it cannot be used for private military purposes... and when mentioning this the land surveyor mentioned that they use 16 satellites simultaneously which together gives them a tolerance of 2 cm for pin-pointing the mark.

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> Is it possible that 16 satellites simultaneously "beaming" us at different frequencies could have caused metals and other solids to make these high pitched noises? Is this possible?

No. GPS satellites are not focusing their signal to individual places. And I would guess that the surveyor meant that they use devices that are able to track 16 satellites. Usually you don't have 16 GPS satellites visible.

And the GPS signal is so weak that it should not cause any problems.

> Please help! Only I can save the village...

Other ideas:

- electrical power cables: If your village is connected to the power network via 'visible' cables you might notice that those make a sound. (Highly depending on weather conditions)

- radio signals. Very strong signals can produce sounds using any metal wire as an antenna. I heard from a place close to an US army radio station in germany where the signal was so strong that people could here voices from the water pipes. (quite scary...) So maybe there was someone producing strong electromagnetic fields in the village.

- iirc surveys for geothermic power plants use ultrasound -> that might be a scenario too

/Jan

[matt]

I thought you were the only alien in your village.

[Former Member]

Looks like he has gone into hiding now that the truth is out.

LOL.

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> I thought you were the only alien in your village.

[Former Member]

Whatever you do but don't get in touch with M. Night Shyamalan about this.

[Former Member]

This sounds like resonance to me. If the pitch reaches too high, the entire village could collapse. Google for 'Tacoma Narrows Bridge'.

[David]

Yes, but the Tacoma bridge collapse was related to wind generated resonate frequencies.

I think Julius's problem is more related to this..............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live

I'm going out now to get some special sunglasses.

[marilyn_pratt]

And I was thinking that the village might have been experimenting with "the mosquito" a few years behind the trend ....to disperse loitering teens, with the unfortunate outcome that it backfired and annoyed hapless adults.

I remember reading about this in the times a few years [ago|http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/12/technology/12ring.html].

[amit_khare]

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[Former Member]

Hi Amit,

Where from did you get this text ? As a Frenchman, I 've never heard of this delicious cauliflower soup !

Must be because I'm not from the South of France!

Regarding GPS, the signals power is so weak that there is no chance it can have an effect on the human body. Think about a few watts from 1500 km away.

The local FM radio emitter will send you several orders of magnitude more power...

Olivier