on 2008 Jul 14 8:42 AM
Hi all,
i would like to start this good morning thread to start the day with lot of energy and with a positive note.
A quote from Legend Swami Vivekananda
Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success, that is way great spiritual giants are produced.
Regards,
Vijay.
Request clarification before answering.
This thread certainly is not for the frivolous and those looking for a shallow laugh. There is profundity in it. For Indians Swami Vivekananda is not a new figure.
Any legendary statement can be misquoted, misinterpreted and abundantly misunderstood. Vijay may appear to be a simpleton and his simplicity should not be manipulated for the sake of humour.
The below statement in it's actual and intended form means to me to be clear and firm in your beliefs. Because finally to you, you are what your beliefs are.
Bala
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I don't think anyone intended causing religious offence. If I have done so, it was inadvertent, and I apologise - as would most here.
However, I think there is always room to discuss anything about religious/spiritual/philosophical beliefs, so long as it is carried out in a
non-insensitive way, avoids ad hominem arguments, and understanding that cultural norms vary drastically around the world. If something
religious is posted, then it needs to be understood that much of the audience won't hold the same ideas or values as the poster, and some
tolerance extended to those that don't.
Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on
one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you,
and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.
Is, in my view, a good way to live. But I'm happy to debate with someone who thinks it isn't. And I won't be offended if someone makes some humour out of it.
I also see no indication that any of us think that Vijay is simple!
Edited by: Matthew Billingham on Jul 24, 2008 11:30 AM
Comment on Vijay
Hi All,
The intention of Good Morning thread is to be Good Morning and it should not intended to be a tensed Morning.If i hurted some one with the quote i am sorry and request you guys to accept my sincere appologize as i fear this discussion is turning out to be religious.
To Matthew,
i find you jovial and at the same time responsible person here( in short thick skinned person ---as you mentioned in one thread). i am suprised about your earlier reply
My sincere appology to everyone here once again
It is also better to stop the discussion here and i dont find the way to close this thread and some can help me to do this
Regards,
Vijay.
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> Last posted 24 July....dont tell me..u didnt have a GOOD MORNING after that day...;->
> Keep posting...
i guess when he said Tensed Morning he meant it in Past Tense. which would mean Good Mornings which have now become a thing of the past, after the kind of varied reactions to the Orginal Post.
Peace Out.
pk
Hi Matthew,
The first ten million years were the worst, and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline...
now i understood the difference between newbies and experienced consultant
lol
Regards,
Vijay.
Hi Vijay
A quote from Legend Swami Vivekananda
Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success, that is way great spiritual giants are produced.Really these quotations are nice. It gives so much inspiration.
but one thing is now i have 2 aims in my daily life so each one has its own importance! So how can i convert your words into this aspect .But dont give advice that idea means combination of any works ........like those.
Ok waiting for ur valuable reposnse! any one good answers are welcome
regards
sas
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Hi SAS
the other quote can answer your question
u201CWe are responsible for what we are, and whatever we wish ourselves to be, we have the power to make ourselves. If what we are now has been the result of our own past actions, it certainly follows that whatever we wish to be in future can be produced by our present actions; so we have to know how to act.u201D
Regards,
Vijay.
Hi Vijay - I vote with Bob McGlynn here, which shouldn't surprise anybody.
Thanks for a surprising and (in my mind) welcome addition to Coffee Corner discourse.
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Hi David,
Thanks for a surprising and (in my mind) welcome addition to Coffee Corner discourse.
Nobody said anything about the post being unwelcome, I am sure it was posted with the best of intentions, however quotes can be misinterpreted.
What came to mind when I read it was the song "Every Breath You Take" by The Police. Sounds like a nice ballad at first, until you think about it for a minute and discover it is actually quite dark and sinister.
Perhaps I am the one misinterpreting it, and perhaps that was not the original meaning of the quote's author, but in today's society such single-mindedness has some very negative connotations.
To repeat: Nothing against Vijay and I am sure he had the best of intentions. I am merely explaining why it struck a discord within me. When I saw Craig's post, I realised that I am not the only one who found it uncomfortable, otherwise I would not have bothered posting a reply in first place. At the same time, our replies have also offered a positive alternative outlook.
Peace.
Mike
I would normally have jumped at an "uncivil" response but for the fact that I've been thinking too much lately about taking repetition and single-mindedness to the "nth" degree and the deleterious effects of doing so. This morning [NPR (national public radio|http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7495175.stm]) had an op-ed that likened such repetition to torture and, in fact explained how it was used as torture.
This is how playing the purple dinosaur theme (Barney) can be used"
Bob Ayers, security expert at Chatham House, says the aim of these techniques is to "destabilise and disorient the suspect in a way that doesn't physically harm the organism. It's not like hearing a Bach symphony, where you can flow along with the music. The idea is to have no variation: the same sounds over and over again."
Dr Michael Peel of the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture adds: "Music is used to make the detainee aware that he has no control over what's going on in any of his senses. Deprivation of normal sensory stimulation and lack of control over one's environment is a disempowerment that eventually dehumanises people."
I certainly can attest to the fact that Barney the purple dinosaur can drive people mad.
Sounds like we are already getting away from the positive, energizing spirit that Vijay wanted to start with this thread.
He shared what charges him. Instead of reacting if it doesn't resonate with you, why not respond with what charges YOU up. Is it a quote, a piece of music, a fragment of poetry, or something else inspirational or spiritual?
Let's add some positive energy, let's get Monday off to a good start!
Bob
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Hey, I found Craig's comment both humorous and positive. He was just presenting a different point of view - as it so happens, one that I agree with. We should not be too blinkered (I also found the first quote a bit eerie), but rather take in all that's around us and live life to the full.
What inspires me? Often the simplest things, such as a sunny day
My comment was made in a positive way and perhaps not obvious but the practical approach is the approach I prefer - realism over zealous.
The idea of focused on a single item so intensely as to not give thought to everything else is in dire contrast to the things that inspire me - such as waking up in the morning to my son sitting next to me and smiling.
Hi
The problem with English language is that sentence can be interpreted in many ways
actually in india (especially in my place) most of the radio channel start their day with a positive note.Preparing ourself to start the day both mentally and physically will make our life enjoyable.
Swami means Herr (german) or Sir (english).
one more quote from Swami Vivekananda :
u201CWe are what our thoughts have made us; so take care about what you think. Words are secondary. Thoughts live; they travel far.u201D*
Regards,
Vijay.
Sounds rather a negative quote then, as I doubt many of us enjoy every breath. If you've ever had a broken rib, you'll know what I'm talking about. on the other hand- not breathing is even more painful. On the gripping hand - it only lasts a short while.
I think I'll stick with Peanuts philosophy:
Learn from the past.
Look to the future.
Party today.
I believe that great spiritual giants do never ever contemplate about how to produce great spiritual giants.
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It's also a definition of psychopaths obsessed with something so much that they forget to live life and enjoy what they have and what is around them. As the old saying goes "don't put all your eggs in one basket"
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