on 2013 Apr 07 12:19 PM
In my opinion when a content (discussion, document etc.) is bookmarked, then the author of that content should get points.
Just like when the "Like" button is pressed.
Is that currently happening?
If not, could this be considered by the SCN team?
Request clarification before answering.
To read content later is exactly why I use bookmarks on SCN and I believe a lot many other people have the reason for using them. For this use of the feature, I don't think awarding points would be appropriate.
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Kumar,
Thank you for your post!
For discussion sake -
There are some rules based on which the points (recognition system) works.
E.g. If the "Like" button is pressed once, the content owner gets 2 points.
Like means like and not award points. But the rules of the recognition system have been set, to allocate points (and 2 in number).
So saying that "Bookmark" functionality has a different function / purpose and therefore should not be used to award points is incorrect.
In other words, it is a matter of how the recognition system is set-up (by SCN).
Jurgen has given a "perspective" that he bookmarks "bad" content.
This now brings my initial idea (i.e. If a content is bookmarked, points should be given to the content owner) in "doubt territory".
I hope you understand my point of reasoning w.r.t. your post.
Hey T W,
Like means like, yes, but if someone 'likes' some content, it means they are appreciating something about the content. So, awarding or allocating points sounds logical as it's an incentive for people to post good stuff.
On the other hand, bookmarking may be for various reasons and not necessarily for appreciating content. And therefore, it may not be fair to award points for bookmarking.
I don't bookmark 'bad' content yet but only content that I don't have time to read immediately. Later on when I read bookmarked content, I may or may not like it depending upon how I find it.
Thanks for starting this discussion. I agree with you that Bookmarks send a strong message. Someone who bookmarks a piece of content wants to keep track of it, come back to it. For me it's an indication of outstanding quality. That's why I was surprised when said above that he bookmarks bad content too. Hum, it's amazing how much I still learn about the use of the Jive platform!
I personally would not like to bookmark bad content, because it then shows in my user profile (Bookmarks tab) and I wouldn't want to be associated with it. But that's my personal opinion, I certainly don't think you should think the same way Juergen!
This reminds me of the "Share" functionality and how I was using it to share good content, when someone else was using it to share abuse within the SCN team. Definitely two different cases. We no longer give points when your content was shared, for that particular reason.
We don't give points for bookmarks, although I would like to do so, because currently you could bookmark your own content and get the points for it.
Bookmarks are part of a couple of missions, but not many and they are hidden until earned to keep the surprise... so I will not share anything else at this point 😉
Best,
Laure
Hi,
Currently, it's not happening. The act of liking and/or rating a piece of content is the appropriate way to evaluate it. As Jurgen points out, content can be bookmarked for different reasons.
At the same time, the reputation program will be going through some changes soon so I suggest waiting until then to suggest anything:
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Hi T W,
Thank you for suggesting this. I would be happy to invite and to this discussion. Laure focuses on recognition and reputation and is leading the Gamification project in SCN.
Please note that you may consider submitting this or other ideas in the SCN Innovation and Enhancements category.
Thanks,
Oxana
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I sometimes bookmark bad examples...
Is it really needed, if somebody is able to bookmark, then he should be able to find the like hyperlink as well, because it is directly beneath it.
Post it in the idea place and have the people vote.
It is directly the first entry in the innovation menu above each forum page.
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Jurgen,
The issue is not that a member can not find the "Like" button!
For me, bookmark is different from like.
Furthermore, a content "bookmarked" could be something which I don't "like".
I might find something beneficial and important which I would read (or visit) later, for those content I use the "bookmark" button.
Why do you bookmark bad examples?
I may collect bad examples in preparation of a blog like in this one: http://scn.sap.com/community/support/blog/2013/04/03/how-to-close-a-discussion-and-why
And I actually do not like too much auto assigned points, it is the freedom of the user to like or rate some content.
6 of my 8 blogs have more bookmarks than likes, I take this as recognition too, even with a smile when I see people having bookmarked my content who usually do not like me.
There is too much focus on points. Wait a few weeks, when the new gamification is implemented, then you may get a badge if people bookmarked your content. There are plenty of options to gain recognition and to show this reputation to the rest of the community.
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