Risk assessment doubts

[Former Member]

Hi all,

I am trying to understand the risk assessment carried out for one agent but I have some problems that I cannot solve:

1. I create an agent for one work area in CBIH12 transaction for today 25.06.2012. The "valid from" and "valid to" fields in CCIHT_ERH database are 01.01.1800 and 31.12.9999 so that means that this agent is active in this work area until the end of the days.

Would it be possible to delimit this agent? I mean, I think it should be possible not to have this agent in next months because some safety measures have been performed and this agent has dissapeared (for example). That is, "valid from" and "valid to" fields in CCIHT_ERH would be 01.01.1800 and 30.08.2012 (for example).

2. I create an agent for one work are in CBIH12 transaction for today 25.06.2012. Then, I create a follow-on assessment for tomorrow 27.06.2012 and another one for the day after tomorrow, 28.16.2012.

The system allows me to delete the first assessment but not the other ones. What should the user do if he create a follow-on assessment (the last one) by mistake? How would the user be able to retrieve the previous data?

3. Would it be possible to set a Historial status to one (only one) follow-on assessment so that users cannot change/delete it in the future by mistake?

Thank you very much in advance.

Best regards,

Nekane.

[Former Member]

Hi !

It would be helpful if you understand the purpose of risk assessment & how it is done (If required you can go through ISO 18001 documents for understanding).

If you understand that the following question will be solved

Q:

"1. I create an agent for one work area in CBIH12 transaction for today 25.06.2012. The "valid from" and "valid to" fields in CCIHT_ERH database are 01.01.1800 and 31.12.9999 so that means that this agent is active in this work area until the end of the days.

Would it be possible to delimit this agent? I mean, I think it should be possible not to have this agent in next months because some safety measures have been performed and this agent has dissapeared (for example). That is, "valid from" and "valid to" fields in CCIHT_ERH would be 01.01.1800 and 30.08.2012 (for example)."

Risk Assessment : It is actually a part of continuous improvement. Today you control a risk with the available control measures and lower the risk level. Always unexpected things can happen. So you will carry out risk assessment based on any accident/incident involving that agent. But you will never know when that unexpected can happen. So your risk assessment should always have the "Valid till" date as any default value(eg. 31.12.9999). When you create a follow-on-RA or new RA, existing RA is archived and you have new validity period.

A:

Refer Balaji's reply & this diagram to know the IHS-Risk Assessment & RA process required as per OSHAS standard

Regards

Subash Sankar

[Former Member]

Hi Nekane,

Regarding point 2. in your question, I am afraid that I have just got the following answer from SAP Message Wizard. They say:

"Dear Mr. Paredes,

Note 1058572 - Deleting details of follow-on assessments is implemented

in the system and therefore it is not possible to delete risk assessmentwith a follow-on assessment.

Creating a follow-on assessments splits the original RA into 2 versions.The deletion of a RA that has a version, is not possible. See also

note 1395435.

Best regards,

Sonja Ortner

Support Consultant

AGS Primary Support - GSC Austria"

[Former Member]

HI Nekane..

In SAP IH Terminology Any Hazard which impacts the health of employees are treated as Agents.. So always Agents are standard , if i am not wrong , there is question of Delimiting of Agents as per Standard of SAP IH Business process , For example "Noise" , If you a assign the Noise to any work area , you will create risk assessment for noise and you can control this  Hazard  by performing corrective Measures which are comply with Standard measures.

If coming to Follow on Risk Assessment

If you want to repeat a risk assessment after a specific period or conditions have changed, you can start a follow-on process using the follow-on assessment function.

If you create a follow-on assessment you limit the validity of the original risk assessment (by assigning it a version) and it can no longer be edited. The historical data is thus retained and can be accessed at any time.

the original risk assessment is split into two versions. The validity of the original risk assessment (old version) is then limited to the date and time t₁. The validity of the new version begins from the date and time t₁ and is unlimited (validity end 12/31/9999).

Depending on the key date you use to later call the risk assessment, you will either be shown the “historical” version or the new version of it.

Balajee