on 2020 Dec 09 11:35 AM
Hi, the first thing to indicate that I am new to SAP ME / MII. I have a question about SAP ME / MII: In the operator POD, I have several buttons that perform different functions. One of them is the Work Instructions (Instrucciones de Trabajo), which shows the instructions for the order and the operation, depending on whether one or the other has been selected in the tables. The activity used is WI_LIST_DISPLAY. Now I want to put a new button where, when selecting the operation, it does not show all the documents linked to the operation, of all types, I want that only shows the document type MAFs and the long texts that are the ones that appear when I select the order the order (and the operation is not selected) and click on the button with the activity WI_LIST_DISPLAY. Are there any standard activities that I can use to do this? How could i do it? it's possible? I attach images, thanks in advance and sorry for my poor English.
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Hi Anibal,
I cant think of any functionality in the standard product that could achieve what you are asking but can you explain more about why you want to do this? Maybe we can think of another way of doing it.
Thanks
Kevin
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Hi, thanks for the answer. The reason to do this is because the users find it more comfortable: when clicking on the operation, all the documents linked to it appear, of all types, and that makes their work difficult, they only want the MAF type document and long texts because their work makes them easier...
Apologies, let me ask the question in another way.
Can you explain what the documents are, why you need them and when do you need them?
Can you explain how you have configured the document attachment points?
Thanks
Kevin
Hi, I answer you:
1) the documents are MAFs (manufacturing aids, capture attachment), that is, the same ones that are seen when clicking on an order in the upper table, but only for the selected operation. I need them when an operation is selected and we click on the work instructions button ("Instrucciones de Trabajo").
2) To obtain the documents that it currently shows, I am using a standard activity that is the WI_LIST_DISPLAY, which returns all the types of documents associated with the order (if only the order is selected in the table) and the operation (if selected in the upper table the order, and the operation is selected in the lower table, that is, the MAFs documents + the rest of the documents, I show capture).
I don't know if it is possible to do something "Z" so that it returns only this type of document and if so, how to do it.
I hope I have clarified your doubts,
thanks again,
greetings.
Hi Anibal,
Apologies but it is still not clear to me why you need a different set of work instruction at an order level than what you do at an operation level. Operators do not work at an order level, they work at an operation level so when I personally set up work instructions I attach them to the operations, I rarely ever attach any document to an order (I do sometimes attach them to the material if the same document is required at each operation).
As for creating Z activities yes this could be an option and we have SAP ME SDK training that will show you how that is achieved. However, before looking at custom development I would recommend hiring SAP consulting or a partner to review the implementation and work out if the customization is really needed.
Thanks
Kevin
Hi Kevin,
thank you very much for your reply. What I mean is: knowing that when we click on an operation, the documents associated to this operation appear, could we use another standard activity or do something to filter by these documents? that is, do something so that by clicking on a new button, it only shows certain documents, not all (MAFs documents). Is this possible with the standard? And if it is not possible with the standard, am I obliged to use the SAP ME SDK?
thanks again,
regards
Hi Anibal, the only way not to display the documents is to not attach them to the operation in the first place.
So this raises some more questions:
Why do you have the documents attached to the operation if you do not want them displayed?
When DO you want to see them?
As for using the SDK, there are other options depending on what you are trying to do, for example you can use MII for small customizations that dont get used very often. Ive also seen clients use non SAP technologies such as .Net and Adobe Flex but please consider performance, scalability and supportability in any decisions.
Before considering any customization's it is recommended to make sure that it is actually required. At the moment I still do not understand why you need this functionality.
I would recommend you hire the services of an experienced ME consultant from SAP or a partner to understand your use case and make recommendations.
Thanks
Kevin
Hi Kevin,
because users want to be able to see all the documents attached to an operation, and also to only see the MAFs documents by clicking on another button.
Regarding using MII instead of SDK, how could I do it? Is there some kind of manual on how I can do this with SAP MII?
If I use SAP ME SDK, could you make a copy of the WI_LIST_DISPLAY activity, and create a Z activity for myself where I do this filter? If so, is there some kind of manual where I explain how I can do it?
thanks again,
greetings
Hi Anibal,
My personal opinion is that there is no benefit in doing what you are trying to do. In both cases the operator will be presented with a list of documents that the operator has to select from and view it. By implementing what you are suggesting the only difference is that the list will be slightly shorter. Is that worth the multiple weeks worth of development to build it?
In your example you show one MAF attached to the operation, is this always the case? If so have you considered making the MAF's a "required" document which means that ME will automatically open it when the operation is started, that way the operator doesnt even need to press anything?
There are no manuals of how to do customizations using MII as the recommended method is to use the SDK, all other documentation regarding development is found in the develop tab of the help page:
https://help.sap.com/viewer/product/SAP_MANUFACTURING_EXECUTION/15.4/en-US?task=develop_task
To develop using the ME SDK you need to use NWDS (Netweaver Development Studio) but you have to attend the official SDK training to receive the documentation as its not something you will be able to learn by yourself. You will also need experience in developing J2EE applications as this is what ME is written in.
Thanks
Kevin
Hi Kevin,
yes, you are right that there is not much benefit, but the client asks that this be done in this way (I think like you, I don't see the need to do it).
Yes, the only difference is that the list will be shorter: the client complains that there are usually two pages of documents when they really only use the MAFs, which are usually one or two.
You usually have one or two MAF documents, but it is not always unique.
Ok, I will look at the documentation in the SAP help.
Yes, I have experience with the Java world, and making WD Java applications with the NWDS, so this is not a problem for me. The main problem is that I don't know where to start, that's why I was asking.
Thanks again,
regards.
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