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RinkyKarthik
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It's been over six months since my initial blog post on the Talent Intelligence Hub, offering a comprehensive overview of this solution. In case you missed it, you can find it here: - Everything you need to know about: SAP SuccessF... - SAP Community.

Since its General Availability in the second half of 2023, Talent Intelligence Hub has undergone many updates. I'll share a few key updates relevant to 2024 in this blog.

*****Update July 24th, 2024*****

With the evolution of our AI strategy SAP SuccessFactors have taken the decision not to continue maintenance for two “Early Adopter” Base AI features in Talent Intelligence Hub. We will instead release Premium AI skills inference features starting with 2H 2024, and we expect these to deliver far superior results.

Recommendations to Early Adopter Care customers:

  • Base AI Use Case #1: Customers currently testing the MS Graph-based skills recommendations are requested not to roll out the feature to any users. 
  • Base AI Use Case #2: Customers using the current skills recommendations sourced from Continuous Performance Management data will be able to continue testing that feature with minimal support, but we recommend waiting to test with our improved offering. 

Talent intelligence hub skills recommendations are planned for iteration and enhancement as follows:

  • Continuous Performance Management-based Inferences - to be redeveloped in 2H 2024 as a Premium AI version
  • OKR and Opportunity Marketplace-based Inferences – to be supported with additional internal data sources in 2025+
  • External Data Inferences/ MS Graph Inferences – will be planned as soon as practical, after internal data sources are stable.

We fully recognise the importance of skills inference to our overall strategy for talent intelligence. We are committed to doing so in a scalable and sustainable way for our customers and SAP.

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Talent Intelligence Foundation

We have recently made some changes to the terminology of the peripheral components of talent intelligence hub to enhance clarity. For example, what was previously called the "Skills Ontology" is now called the "Talent Intelligence Foundation." It's important to note that Talent Intelligence Foundation is not a Skills Library! It is a foundation of skills that will allow us to support skills matching and skill inferences.

NOTE: We are creating our baseline talent intelligence foundation by combining 3 databases (Lightcast, O*NET, & ESCO). Customers will not see or interact with the Talent Intelligence Foundation at all. It will be present and used in the skills inference process. As the name suggests, it is a 'foundation for skills used in the inference process.' It is not a skills library.

To understand Talent intelligence foundation better, let's know what is 'AI-Inference' and, more specifically, what is 'skills inference.'

What is Inferencing?

An inference is an idea or conclusion drawn from evidence and reasoning. An inference is an educated guess. Making inferences is a way of connecting unknown information with the known. To do this, you analyze events, facts, ideas, and objects and compare them with what you already know.

AI Inferencing is the process of running live data through a trained AI model to make a prediction. (Source – IBM Research article https://research.ibm.com/blog/AI-inference-explained

We make inferences in everyday life.

Example: Emily sees chocolate stains on her daughter's face and dress, notices more chocolate stains on the refrigerator handle. Emily infers that her daughter opened the refrigerator and ate some of the chocolate cake.

You meet a colleague for the first time in person, and you see she's wearing a 'cat mom' sweater and has a custom coffee cup that says 'crazy cat lady'; you infer that your colleague loves cats!

What is Skill Inferencing?

Using natural language processing (NLP), AI-driven Skill Inference is a technique to extract employee skills from a variety of unstructured data sources (e.g., emails, chats, images, video footage, text, and so on).

It's common for HR Applications, including SuccessFactors, for employee skills-related data to be stored in several places within the suite and in various formats. This data often describes what they do, how they progress within an organization, their strengths, capabilities, feedback received, performance reviews, development goals, learnings, certifications, project accomplishments, and more. Managing this data and drawing conclusions about an employee's Skills portfolio can be complex. Skill inference helps by bringing together insights from these different sources, creating one reliable Skills Portfolio for each employee.

Skill Inferencing in Talent Intelligence Hub

Now that we have clarified the definitions, let's look into how skill inference plays a role in talent intelligence hub, especially with talent intelligence foundation.

Talent intelligence foundation is our intended approach to skills and talent strategy to help SAP SuccessFactors customers be future-ready.

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   It's a four-step process, as depicted in the figure.

Step 1

Our AI-infused Skill Inference uses machine learning (ML) algorithms to extract the digital footprints generated by employees as they interact with 3rd-party applications, leading Skills databases, collaboration tools, and internal data, i.e., from the SuccessFactors suite solutions. The data extraction is limited to semantic info about 'skills' using natural language processing (NLP), which helps translate unstructured data to structured input, almost like autocorrect!

 Step 2

The structured skills data is then validated with SAP's trained machine learning model: talent intelligence foundation.

Step 3

Next, the system sends the inferred skills data to Attributes Library to check if there is an exact match for the skill in the Attributes Library.

Step 4

The skill is displayed as a 'recommended skill' in the employee's Growth Portfolio if a match is found.

The skill inferencing system works as a connector between the source system (for example, Microsoft Graph or SAP SuccessFactors Continuous Performance Management) and Talent Intelligence Hub.

NOTE:This feature is in the Restricted Availability phase. To test this feature in your environment, please email SAPSuccessFactorsEACPrograms@sap.com.

Here's a great video from one of LinkedIn's influencers, Bernard Marr, where he explains Unstructured data vs Structured data.

Skill Inference Sources (Early Adopter)

  • Skill Recommendations based on Microsoft 365 Graph data

If the Microsoft Azure Client application is set up in your environment and the email ID of an employee in Microsoft Azure matches the email ID in SAP SuccessFactors, the skill inferencing system can create skill recommendations based on skill terms in the data from Microsoft Graph. The skills data is extracted from the following Microsoft APIs:

  • Outlook calendar invitations
  • Teams Team names and descriptions
  • Distribution lists

For example, if an employee is in multiple Microsoft Teams that has 'Finance' as a common term in the Teams name or in description, the skills inferencing system learns that the employee is interested in financial management skills. The skill inferencing system then checks if there's an exact match for the skill name in the customer's Attributes Library. If a match is found, the skill is displayed as a recommended skill in the employee's Growth Portfolio.

  • Skill Recommendation based on CPM data

Activities, Achievements, and Feedback in Continuous Performance Management (CPM) reflect the work an employee is doing within the organization and can be used to infer skills for the employee. As more employees continue to build a portfolio of activities, achievements, and feedback, they're likely to acquire new skills that may not otherwise be captured.

Note: Learn more about configuring this option - SAP Help Portal

  • Skill Recommendation from External Skills Databases, licensed by customer (*Roadmap)          

We will support the ingestion of data from external data sources of the customers' choice, and the data quality will, in part, determine the quality of inferences. The customer must have a direct license with the external Skills vendor they intend to use for skills inference (*Roadmap).

Other TIH Highlights for 2024

Import/Export Template for Talent Intelligence Hub Entities

Talent Intelligence Hub leverages Integration Center (IC) for importing and exporting entities. As a one-time activity, It's easy to set up a recurring job (daily, weekly, etc.) to import and export data from talent intelligence hub.

We have provided integration definition files, so you don't have to build one from scratch. You can download the templates from SAP Business Accelerator Hub:

Attributes Library

This package provides import/export templates for Attributes, Tags, Behaviors, Attribute to Tag Mapping, and Attribute to Behavior Mapping.

Growth Portfolio

With the Growth Portfolio import/export templates, you can feed external learning and talent solutions with attributes, date of assignment and associated ratings of People maintain on their Growth Portfolio.

Talent Intelligence Hub Growth Portfolio Import

Talent Intelligence Hub Growth Portfolio Export

Importing SkillsPlex data to Talent Intelligence Hub

Using the delivered import templates, you can now import SkillsPlex data into Talent intelligence hub. This package provides data files for SkillsPlex Attributes, Tags, and Attribute to Tag Mappings.

Link to SkillsPlex Import Template

Attributes Library and Attribute Sources

The attributes library is organized by attribute types and tags. Customers can use the Integration Center to populate these libraries from a 'source' of choice.

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 Team Portfolio for Managers

Managers can now view or edit the Growth Portfolio of their direct reports. The Team Portfolio provides a snapshot of direct reports' skills and skill gaps for the manager. Managers need role-based permissions to view their direct reports' growth portfolios.

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Managers can:

  • By default, the Team Portfolio screen shows all direct reports. However, the view is limited to 30 people at a time. You can add or remove people to the list based on your preference.
  • Use filters to search for people by attributes, tags, and proficiency levels.
  • Add or remove attributes from an individual's or everyone's Growth Portfolio.
  • Assign proficiency levels for newly added attributes. Managers can also modify the proficiency level for existing attributes in an individual's Growth Portfolio.

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Talent Intelligence Hub – Available features as of 2H2023 and EA

Here's a list of #talentintelligencehub features and HXM suite use cases available with 2H2023 release.

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Talent Intelligence Hub – 2024 and Roadmap items

There's an impressive list of existing and upcoming use cases in 2024. Here's a list of some of the key roadmap items. Recruiting is getting a lot of AI love in 2024 release. Career Explorer, powered by SAP Business AI service, currently recommends career opportunities (roles) to employees based on the career paths of the people who are similar to them in the organization. Going forward it will also use Skills as a data source for personalized career path recommendations. There's also 'skills tagging' for learning content in the roadmap, which aims to remove the manual work by learning admins to assign skill(s) to learning content.

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Talent Intelligence Hub – Dashboards and Story Reports

There are two standard dashboards available as of 2H 2023 - Admin Dashboard and Manager Dashboard.

Admin Dashboard

The Admin Dashboard provides a concise view of the attributes, tags, behaviors, and more that's available in the Talent Intelligence Hub Attributes Library for an HR Administrator.

Note: The report considers the logged-in user’s locale to display the data. In case, Attributes /Tags/Attribute Types are not maintained in logged in user locale, then the count displayed may vary for the logged in user.

The template is now available on Import -Content Store in Report Center. The title of the template story is SF_TIH_Talent_Intelligence_Hub_HR_Admin_Dashboard_v1.0.

Manager Dashboard

The Manager Dashboard provides managers an overview of Team Members’ proficiency levels, any proficiency gaps, areas of strength, and opportunities for development.

You can filter the report by Attribute type, Attribute, User, and Proficiency level. There are two Pages provided:
  • Attribute Overview
  • Attribute Gaps

The template is now available on Import -Content Store in Report Center. The title of the template story is SF_TIH_Talent_Intelligence_Hub_HR_Manager_Dashboard_v1.0.

Note: We highly recommend that you make another copy of this story and make necessary changes. Please avoid updating the imported story, as your changes are over-written if the story is re-imported from Content Store.

Stories in People Analytics

Other than utilizing these dashboards, you can also create Story Reports with data from Talent Intelligence Hub. These Story Reports in People Analytics can be used for audit purposes. You can report on data for the following entities in Talent Intelligence Hub.

  • Attributes

  • Attribute Types

  • Tags

  • Growth Portfolio

  • Behaviors

  • Proficiency Level

  • Proficiency Set

Talent Intelligence Hub – Components & Structure

Talent intelligence hub comprises of three key elements: 

  • Job Profile Builder
  • Attributes Library
  • Growth Portfolio (Team Portfolio is an additional view within Growth Portfolio for people managers, with necessary role-based permission)

Note: Conceptually JPB is now part of Talent Intelligence Hub. While JPB will continue to manage Job related attributes, Growth Portfolio will manage People attributes and Attributes Library will serve as the storage place for all these attributes. There can be three scenarios while implementing TIH:

  1. From a solution perspective, JPB can be implemented without Growth Portfolio, if a customer isn't ready for the change management involving Growth Portfolio and giving its employees access to manage own Skills Portfolio.
  2. A customer may decide to enable and implement Growth Portfolio only but not JPB. In both scenario #1 and #2 they will need Attributes Library to store the attributes.
  3. The third and recommended scenario is implementation all components of TIH - JPB, Growth Portfolio and Attributes Library. This help customers to be a skills-based organization and develop a future-ready workforce.

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I hope this information was helpful. Please refer to other talent intelligence hub related blogs:

Link to other blogs -

Talent Intelligence Hub and SAP SuccessFactors HXM Suite Integration as of Release 2H 2023

SAP SuccessFactors Opportunity Marketplace & SAP Business AI-powered Recommendation

Talent Intelligence Hub & SAP SuccessFactors Learning Integration

SAP Help link for Talent Intelligence Hub - Talent Intelligence Hub | SAP Help Portal

Many thanks to @Julie Bartholic and @kanchanarao @Rebecca Reagan-Thieme for the collaboration. 

 

 

 

48 Comments
rohitbindroo
Participant

Thanks a lot for sharing the detailed info. It would amazing to know How integration with OCN's and their role and skills libraries would be used in SF learning ? Will skills and other attributes used by OCN be mapped to a course/item in SF learning OR will it be required to first import the attribute library(skills or any such attributes) used by OCN in TIH-attribute library and then when it becomes available in learning through sync be allowed to be mapped with item

antwonjones
Explorer

Super excited for the new features coming to TIH. Especially, the skills to learning content tagging. I'm interested to learn more about the feature and understand how granular we can get with tagging skills to content. 

Looking forward to future updartes. 

H_Wuehr
Explorer
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@RinkyKarthik Many thanks for the details, e.g. on what the Talent Intelligence Foundation (TIF) is and does. Did I understand it correctly, that only those skills which are already available in the customers attributes library would be provided as a personal recommendation by TIF? Or in other words: Even if the TIF discovers a skill as a possible attribute for a specific user, it would not recommend that skill as long as it is not already part of the company´s library. Again, many thanks for clarification.

RinkyKarthik
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@H_Wuehr , That is correct! Only Skills, that exist in the 'Attributes Library' of the customer instance, will be recommended to the employee in their GP. If a skill is not present in the Library, it will not show up as a recommendation for employees in GP.

MridulSharmaSF
Contributor
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Hi RinkyKarthik 

Thanks for such a great blog ,i have below questions.

1.There is very little so far TIH and SPCDP linkup can we expect new features for this in 1H2024

2.Rating for now is getting normalized and coming to GP can we expect in future that whatever rating is in PM form same will flow to GP ?

3.User document with step by step fixing of checktool errors as those are for JDM and JPB and client and even consultants faces issue in fi

Thanks

Mridul

RinkyKarthik
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@MridulSharmaSF , Thank you! Keep an eye out for Roadmap explorer, exciting TIH <> SPCDP coming soon. Not sure on #2, I am not aware anything in roadmap yet. 

Regarding # 3, have you seen my earlier blog - Everything you need to know about: SAP SuccessF... - SAP Community There is a visual for "Recommended Strategy' and a few KBAs are mentioned. Based on where the customer's starting point is, if you can go to the KBA, they have listed step by step process to tackle check tool errors. Start with 3328015 - Migrating Job Profile Builder Data to Talent Intelligence Hub - SAP for Me 

Rinky

Ilan_Avigdor
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It's mentioned that only skills existing in the 'Attributes Library' of the customer instance will be recommended to the employee in their GP. Considering this, I'm curious about the role of inference. Wouldn't these skills be recommended regardless?

TamaraA
Explorer
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This is a great update, thank you for it, Rinky. Following the 1H 2024 TIH release webinar, can you please help to understand the architectural link now between TIH, new Skills Architecture Creation, new NextGen Career Development (aka old Career Worksheet), old Growth Portfolio (that works independent of OMP), new Growth Portfolio (with TIH & OMP as prerequisite) and OMP as such? Having LMS (old and new UI) and RMK on top of it will be golden of course. 

Thank you!

vandanarao
Explorer
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HI @RinkyKarthik 

Thank you for this new blog, helps a lot. I have a question about the Skill catalog that we have which has 4 levels in the taxonomy. How can we translate a 4 level structure of skills ( skill cluster/subarea etc ) as a structure in TIH attributes library. I am aware we have tags as a replacement, but it does not allow a structure creation. ( I am translating it as creating cluster/area/ subarea tags and assigning it to respective values).

Can you shed some light on how tags are supposed to be used and its value in TIH process in your opinion?

Thanks

RinkyKarthik
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@TamaraA , Working on the new architecture diagram :). Please stay tuned and should publish those details in a couple of weeks. 

RinkyKarthik
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@Ilan_Avigdor , That's a valid point. However, the underlying thought process is that if an organization has not identified and defined specific skills pertinent to their industry or business processes, the inference engine may suggest skills that are not relevant in the business context. For instance, certain unstructured words or texts could be relevant to both the finance and healthcare industries. When processed through our inference model, these words may be recognized as 'skills'. However, while such skills could be useful in a finance context, they may not assist employees in the healthcare industry in portfolio building.

RinkyKarthik
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@vandanarao , the purpose of AI powered skills ontology is to move away from traditional table & hierarchy structure of skills catalog.

With the current SuccessFactors TIH architecture - Tag is a great way to identify skills type, you can further identify Core or critical skills for the organization. Skills proficiency provides additional granularity, i.e. by categorizing skills into different levels (e.g., beginner, intermediate, advanced). By skills progression available, you can track employee's skill development over time. I don't suggest to over complicate the attributes library by creating additional levels.

Katia-L
Discoverer
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Hello,

Thank you for this blog. I have a question concerning this topic. If the Talent Intelligence Hub is configured in the test environment but not yet in the production environment (which is still with the Job Profile Builder). Should we expect any impact by doing an instance refresh (from prod to test) where the JBP is enabled in prod while the Talent Intelligence Hub is confirgured in test?

Thank you

mandiarney
Participant

Hello all! 

Apologies if this has already been asked and a response offered up for reference - is there somewhere with oversight into ALL the holistic TIH plans and potential timelines for implementation of various TIH permissions and features? I've been attending TIH related webinars/sessions, however, I'm concerned that I don't have full visibility to intended timing, roadmap consideration, and prerequisite action as a customer. I feel like if there is a repository with transparency into all those critical pieces, I've missed it. 

Any resources would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much!

Antonis
Explorer

Hi Experts,

Do you know if there is any way to expand the view to include indirect reports as well? We have Department heard which would like to take a full view (up to 30 people) and wanted to double check if this was possible in the growth portfolio itself.

Thank you,

RinkyKarthik
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@Katia-L , The common system behavior (not just for TIH but for any SuccessFactors configuration, any module) when you instance refresh, the target instance will match to the configuration of the source instance. If your target had additional configuration, which is missing in the source, then you will lose those. It's always advisable to follow the Instance Strategy Architecture Leading practice and work with expert consultants while defining our instance landscape.

H_Wuehr
Explorer

Hi @mandiarney,

I tried to find something like a landing page for the TIH, also to get a holistic overview of TIH related information and schedule, but could not find any. However, in the meanwhile I am comfortable with the following resources:

  • The Roadmap Explorer with filter set to "Skills and Competencies Management" (LINK)
  • KBA 3319564 as a starting point for implementation. It also includes links to Admin Guide and Release Infos (at least some history).
  • Besides Rinky´s great blog articles there is a further very useful blog series "Talent Intelligence Hub - Debunking Myths and Misconceptions
  • The release specific known issues list might sometimes also be helpful (e.g. for 1H 2024 LINK)

I know, these are no new items and it does not fulfill a holistic approach but maybe it helps a bit further.

Best regards,
Holger

MarikaS
Explorer

Hi @RinkyKarthik,

Managing Talent Intelligence Hub is still quite limited. Customers have hard time adopting it, because they need to have decisions in place and locked before they can start trying it out, like Proficiency Rating Scales. Also the SAP documentation does not even mention all these limitations, for example that you cannot change Proficiency Rating scale to be used for an attribute once you have selected some rating scale. It is only mentioned that you cannot change an existing Proficiency Rating scale content after it has been assigned to an attribute, and that makes sense. 

Not to mention the need to have access to SFTP server which is not normally given to admin users, to be able to export/import data from/to TIH. Or the fact that you cannot delete attributes from TIH, only inactivate them. All this is preventing customers to start implementing and adopting TIH, so are there any improvements in sight? 

Kind regards, 
Marika

MridulSharmaSF
Contributor

 

These are very meaningful comments, i too faced this ,it is not clearly mentioned in guide about the Proficiency Rating Scales and as a result PM form vs GP rating is getting normalized and showing output as per the default rating scale of TIH ,also not able to test Import and Export of TIH attributes due to SFTP details , @RinkyKarthik think product team should check this on priority and fix it asap as client may loose interest due to these issues. As the process has to be simpler ,May be there is a Math behind using integration center as TIH may be the main connection with other Module but we need to simply this for sure.

Thanks

Mridul

BJ
Participant
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I see with the Growth Portfolio that users can add skills from the Attributes Library.  Currently, we are using People Profile and users can add skills on a portlet today.  If we enable TIH and the GP, it will seem redundant to have users add skills in 2 locations.  Is there a way to utilize the skills that we are already collecting from employees and pull those into the GP or other areas in SuccessFactors such as talent search or PM template?  We are looking to see if the existing data on people profile is 'usable' or if we need to 'collect' data twice.  I hope not because some data that is in GP is also on People profile. I understand that the data on PP for is job related vs GP is related to the person but the data can be the same in some cases.

Also, I know that GP is an optional feature, so if it is enabled, does it replace People profile or can they be in use at the same time? How have you seen this work in tandem for other companies?

BJ
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I see with the Growth Portfolio that users can add skills from the Attributes Library.  Currently, we are using People Profile and users can add skill from a portlet today.  If we enable TIH and the GP, it will seem redundant to have users add skills in 2 locations.  Is there a way to utilize the skills that we are already collecting from employees and pull those into the GP or other areas in SuccessFactors such as talent search or PM template.  Just want to see if the existing data on people profile is 'usable' or if we need to 'collect' data twice.  I hope not because some data that is in GP is in People profile.

I know that GP is an optional feature, so if it is enabled, does it replace People profile or can they be in use at the same time? How have you seen this work in tandem for other companies?

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Also, does ANY day from the career worksheet feed to the GP?  

BJ
Participant
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Talent cards

We are considering the move to JPM or TIH.  Still on JDM with legacy goal using competencies.  We also have a custom talent talent card that we are using (BIRT) and wondering if it will be impacted moving forward with either new solution. It maps fields from People Profile for people review meetings.  Will we still be able to use it?  Or does either solution offer a standard talent card that can be considered that I can review?

 

BJ
Participant

I would like to understand the architectural link between TIH skills and compentencies added to Growth Portfolio vs those added to People Profile portlet.

RinkyKarthik
Product and Topic Expert
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@BJ ,  The new Spotlight (People Profile) provides a portlet view of key skills and competencies. You can't add Skills/Competencies to People Profile directly. 

RinkyKarthik
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@MridulSharmaSF   and @MarikaS  , Regarding Integration Center related concern, IC is used across HCM suite for all modules, and I suggest, organizations to follow the RBP governance process, where designated System Admins should have access to IC. It's not a product limitation but how the organization manage Role Based Permission and related governance. It is very likely and a leading practice guidance, that sensitive information like SFTP details are only managed by a handful of System Admins.

 

RinkyKarthik
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@MarikaS  , I acknowledge the limited documentation regarding proficiency rating scale and will share the information with the team managing the help documents. 

RinkyKarthik
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Product and Topic Expert
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@BJ  ,

The 'skills portlet' in People profile shouldn't be used anymore. That will be deprecated soon. Please follow my earlier blogs about guidance on TIH prerequisites. 

RinkyKarthik
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@TamaraA  , yes 🙂 , working on it. 

MarikaS
Explorer
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Hi @RinkyKarthikand @MridulSharmaSF for information,

That is exactly the point in exporting/importing TIH content: compared to current Export/Import Data or Export/Import Job Profile Content, those are also controlled by RPB and there are certain admin users having these permissions. However, exporting/importing TIH content needs to be permissioned to a very specialized admin users only, due to the SFTP access and the ability to create the integrations in IC.

This changes the maintenance of TIH content from let's say JPB Admin to a very limited TIH/IC Admin, thus adding the work load of specialized admin users. Currently the Export/Import Data is "business as usual" when maintaining competencies, but with TIH it becomes more complex and concentrated on a very few (technical) admins. We cannot permission the maintenance of TIH content via export/import anymore to the same admins that used to maintain competencies with CoC. We even have smaller customers whose admin users are not even having IC permissions, but they do utilize competencies & JPB. 

BR,
Marika

Sara_Morais
Explorer
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Dear team,

I have enabled TIH and Growth Portfolio. But I have some questions regarding teams portfolio. I do not find information about what is the functionality of the role-based button.

I understand the proficiency gap button is to highlight the differences between the current proficiency level and the expected proficiency level. But how does the system knows the expected rating?

Also, I read the proficiency gap button only applies for role-based attributes, but what does this mean? Because I do not see any RBP related to attributes except from view/create/edit...

Thank you in advance for your feedback, it will help a lot!

Best Regards,

Sara 

Nadine2
Explorer
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Hello everyone

Our client has the request that the managers can also see the target role including the gap analysis (new display in the Growth Portfolio under "Aspiration and Roles").

As far as I can see, this cannot be reported and when the manager goes to the Growth Portfolio, he only sees the old view with the different attribute types.

Does anyone have an idea / experience how this can be made visible?

Thank you and best regards,
Nadine

BJ
Participant
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@RinkyKarthik

Is there a date for the deprecation of the skills portlet' on People profile? You indicated above that it shouldn't be used anymore.  This is a highly used feature at my company so will you please add information on TIH prerequisites as I don't know where to find them in this blog.

MridulSharmaSF
Contributor
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@BJ  Once you upgrade to Talent Intelligence Hub ,skills will not migrate automatically like Competencies, Legacy skill data will no more be available post TIH upgrade. Also post TIH upgrade you cannot create skills from People profile, you have to use Manage Talent intelligence Hub to create skills. You can follow my blog to see how to create Skills in TIH and how to pull them in PM form 

https://community.sap.com/t5/human-capital-management-blogs-by-members/rating-skills-in-sf-performan... 

Hope this helps rest Rinky can add on this 

Thanks

Mridul

 

 

BJ
Participant
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Today skills are only used on People Profile and I'm not looking to migrate them to TIH.  Just the competencies, so I am ok there.  My concern is what you said about not being able to create skills from People Profile anymore after the migration to TIH!! Are you sure?  What if we don't use the Growth Portforlio?  Our plan is to turn on JPB and TIH and use the bare minimum to start with families/roles/competencies only and build on that later.  And continue using People Profile as we normally do.. Adding our skills. We do not have a need to pull skills into any source at this point.

delacourt_l
Discoverer
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@RinkyKarthik, is there a maximum number of skills that users can add?

RinkyKarthik
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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@delacourt_l  , there's no max limit.

WiktoriaD
Participant
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Hi Experts

When is the deadline for the move form JPB to TIH, we are still using Center of capabilities for Competencies.

Thank you

Regards

Wiktoria

salimbelkahla
Discoverer
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Dear All,

I have a similiar question like @Antonis earlier. It would be very important for us to be able to expand the Team View option to more than just direct Reports. At the very least the should be an option to see the whole hierarchy below (similiar to what you can do in most other modules/reporting) as well as giving the option to also show matrix reports.

I checked the Roadmap Explorer but could not find anything related to that. Are there any plans to expand this view down the line?

Thank you very much in advance and best Wishes,

Salim

MarikaS
Explorer

Hi @RinkyKarthik

We just learned from SAP that migration directly from JDM to TIH is not recommended after all, although is it one of the migration path options. We learned that you should first migrate to JPB and Center of Capablities, modify the Capability Rating Scale in CoC, and then migrate to TIH. When migrating from JDM to TIH, the migration automatically creates and assigns the standard Proficiency Level Scale to migrated competencies, and we can no longer change that (enhancement request exists). This is not mentioned anywhere in SAP documentation or KBA's, but we got confirmation from SAP that this is the way it should have handled. 

Now imagine customers who maybe implemented Capability Portfolio back in 2021 when it was introduced. Customers tried it out, and realized it is not that flexible since the limitation of rating scale not to be changeable. Customers could not know that any decision about Capability Ratins Scale made back then would be set to stone also when migrating to Talent Intelligence Hub, which did not even exist in 2021 yet. And now customers are stuck with the decision made with Capability Portfolio, since we cannot change the rating scales or their assignment to attribute types. 

How on earth are we ever going to be able to implement TIH as we want to due to all these limitations and unexpected and undocumented issues? Please make changing the rating scale possible, otherwise customers will never start adopting Talent Intelligence Hub. 

BR,
Marika

 

MinhToHa
Discoverer
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Hello,

I noticed that with the activation of TiH in our instance, competency filters in goal plans stop working. Our employees are able to select all competencies/skills within the TiH now.

Do we have any update on how we make filters work again?

Best Regards,

Minh

CarinaEbliKorbel
Discoverer
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@RinkyKarthik 

Is there a way, outside of the target skill profile that's linked to the job role and job code and pushed to the growth portfolio, to add expected skill rankings to individual skills? For example, I have a Calibration Engineer with a general target skill profile and an expected skill ranking in the Growth Portfolio. I want to add specific, individualized skills to their Growth Portfolio and also assign an individually expected skill ranking to these skills. The goal is to further develop this employee individually and perform a team skill gap analysis on all skills, not just those linked to the job role. Any insights on how this can be achieved?

shocainguicha
Discoverer
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Hi @RinkyKarthik ,

Thank you for all the information.

Is there a TIH workbook available? I've skimmed through the Partner Portal but only found the JPB and the one about Opportunity Marketplace.

Thank you!
Sabrina

 

kristywalsh
Participant
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Hello all,

I've submitted an enhancement request for Performance forms to display skill-specific proficiency level descriptors from the Talent Intelligence Hub. Having this information displayed on a Skills or Role Readiness Assessment PM form is critical for assessors to adequately determine skill level. If you agree that this is a good idea, I kindly request that you please vote for this. 😊

Thank you!

Kristy

ThomasLecluyse
Participant

Hello all,

Would anyone know wehn expiration for custom attributes like certifications will be supported?

Can't seem to find it on the roadmap...

Thank you!

Regards

Thomas

vandanarao
Explorer

Hi @RinkyKarthik 

Can we still user the Job profile APIs, to retrieve competency data. skill data proficiency data if the instance has TIH enabled? Does TIH have its own APIs? is it planned in any release so far. 

Thank you in advance your input is highly appreciated.

Alessio_Virecci
Newcomer

Hi @RinkyKarthik ,

We have taken steps with the activation of the Talent Intelligence Hub, but we are experiencing several problems (e.g. when you go to team view, you do not see the description of the behavoirs, once you hook up the proficiency level to an attribute it can no longer be changed etc.)
Now we have a technical question, what is the difference between Skills and Skills?
Let me explain better: they are two different types of attributes, but is there any difference/impact on other modules in case we have only the skills and disabled the competences?

Gunnar92
Explorer
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Thanks for the interesting and useful blog! I have discussed the deployment of TIH with several potential clients. Often the major issue is that the manager view of the GP is limited to direct reports. Clients need a tool like executive review (similar organized like the executive review from compensation) to have an overview about all employee with their respective skills. Therefore, I have created an enhancement request:

Improvement Request Details - Customer Influence

 

kristywalsh
Participant

Hello,

Is there an ETA on when we'll be able to de-link/map attribute types from one proficiency scale in TIH to another? Or is there a way to do this already that I'm just unaware of? This is causing some problems for a customer who would like to change their scale but cannot re-map an attribute that was already mapped to an old scale. And the attribute MUST be the Skills attribute because these skills must be able to be mapped in Job Profile Builder to roles. 

Best,

Kristy