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AmelieFidric
Product and Topic Expert
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With a growing need to support a culture of lifelong learning in an ever-evolving work landscape, it becomes more important than ever to surface learning opportunities to your workforce that are tailored to your learners’ needs, role and aspirations. Learning and upskilling should be easily accessible, timely and contextual – anytime, anywhere, on any device. The new integrated learning experience, with the whole self model at its core and powered by talent intelligence hub and a strong AI/ML recommendations engine, will deliver an elevated learning experience to your organization. A key part of this, the new and re-architected learning home page became available in 2H 2023.

 

General

What is the integrated learning experience and what is the driver behind SAP SuccessFactors delivering this experience?

SAP SuccessFactors Learning is a key part of our broader Future Ready Workforce product strategy. The integrated learning experience for SAP SuccessFactors Learning is a cornerstone of that strategy, and includes a newly re-designed Learning home page, but goes way beyond just a new user interface.

Prioritized and organized to meet the learner’s individual needs, the intuitive design of the Learning home page provides learning options across the areas where users have to learn (in the context of safety and compliance), need to learn (to further excel in their roles, jobs and teams), and where they want to learn (based on their own interests, aspirations and motivations). This allows learners to accomplish learning not only towards organizational needs, but it also drives an intrinsic culture of learning by tapping into the learner’s aspirations, motivations, skill targets, and learning preferences, in addition to their role and previous experiences.

Under the hood, more enhanced cross-modular functions and features with AI-driven talent intelligence, growth portfolio and SAP SuccessFactors Opportunity Marketplace bring together the power of the SuccessFactors suite to support both a consistent user experience and a companywide integrated learning strategy for accelerated skill-building processes.

To learn more about the drivers behind this experience, please read this blog.

What will we see and when?

With the 2H 2023 release, customers have started seeing the integrated learning experience on the new learning home page – on web and mobile.

The initial version of the new experience was focused on engaging and motivating learners with prioritized content which makes it easy to complete their mandatory assignments on time, stay on top of their self-directed learning, and provide contextual recommendations to support their continuous upskilling.

LHP 2H 2023 overview.pngThe new 2H 2023 Learning Home Page


By prioritizing required assignments learners can get in and out of the system while completing their mandatory requirements faster than ever before. All required assignments and curricula can be found up front and center, with an easy indication of meeting compliance. Clicking on the compliance indicator for curricula will also take the user straight to the curricula overview, for a guided experience. In addition, learners are able to plan their learning activities with the convenience of blocking their calendars directly from the cards, to make time to learn.

2H 2023 LHP required learning.png

Visualizing required assignments and curricula


Motivation comes in many forms – including interaction with peers and recommendations and suggestions from those close to you. By highlighting these suggestions in their own area, and treating the referred learning with the importance needed, users can quickly find and interact with items that mean more to them. This also supports building a habit-forming learning culture, where employees are encouraged to continuously learn and upskill.

2H 2023 Latest Bookmarks2H 2023 Latest Bookmarks

Self-directed learning activities


Discovery is a key part of building curiosity.  We introduced a brand new search capability with smart recommendations and the ability to search based on specific skills and other attributes, which will be available to customers who opt in to using SuccessFactors’ Data Platform.

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New Search experience (2H 2023)


Including AI recommendations right on the main page also allows learners to receive personalized recommendations based on both their own learning history, as well as recommendations based on their growth portfolio, role in the company, and job role. As with all machine learning algorithms, these recommendations will improve and become more and more valuable over time, with further usage and inputs. (Note: the AI recommendations are an opt-in feature, and available to customers based on a staggered rollout.)

Personalized learning recommendations


Skills and other attributes are embedded in the foundation of all the items showcased in this learning experience – details on courses and their tagged skills and attributes can now be seen in the course home pages.  We have also enhanced the item connector to better enable administrators to ensure their courses are tagged with searchable skills by supporting the ability to mass update items, thereby accelerating associating learning content with skills.

Is SAP SuccessFactors Learning building a Learning Experience Platform (LXP)?

No, the new integrated learning experience isn’t about delivering an LXP. It is building the bridge between the traditional learning management system (LMS) and user-centric features typically associated with LXPs for learner engagement.

By bringing LMS’ robust support for compliance and learning management together with a fully revamped experience centered around the learner’s needs, built on a strong foundation of personalized ML recommendations and intelligent suite data, we are establishing a new learning paradigm: reducing manual effort with programmatic learning and AI, supporting multi-modal learning leveraging the complete SuccessFactors suite and 3rd party applications, and enabling a culture of learning anytime, anywhere. LXPs continue to offer additional capabilities for learning specific use cases for companies requiring tailored custom experiences.

Watch the product demo for more details:

Product demo

 

Technical questions


 How easy is it to implement the new experience?
It comes out of the box! Provided your instance meets the technical prerequisites (see details below), your learners could automatically have access to this new experience in 2H 2023 when they navigate to their learning home page within SuccessFactors. The legacy experience does not go away, and users can flip back and forth using a simple toggle at the top, thus keeping access to the functionality they are familiar with, as needed. Administrators can determine whether the default page is the current experience or the new one to start with. Users can then chose their preference, which will be honored when they come back to Learning. 

Learners can start reaping the benefits of the new experience – with valuable new features such as the ability to quickly create calendar blocks to make time for learning, straight from  the home page, or the brand new learning bookmarks – while still keeping access to their existing views and tools as more features get added to the new experience over time.

If you need more time, you have the ability to temporarily opt-out of the new integrated learning experience. In this case, the learners would not see any changes, nor any of the new functionality. We plan to remove this opt-out option in 2H 2024.

Does the new experience work on a tablet or mobile browser?
Yes. The integrated learning experience is developed to be entirely mobile-web responsive, and functional experience updates are available on your SAP SuccessFactors mobile application. The user interface will adjust in the mobile browser you are using and operate within the screen’s available size. The native mobile applications continue to be updated with the new experience facets as well.

Can we customize the new experience?
We are optimizing the integrated learning experience to necessitate as little configuration as possible to simplify the task for learning admins. While we were working with our Design Advisors on customization capabilities, the initial release of the integrated learning experience was delivered fully out-of-the-box, with some features such as recommendations being opt-in, so that learners can start using it on Day 1. We added customization capabilities in 1h 2024 release (see details further below).

Prerequisites


How can we prepare?
To get the new integrated learning experience, you will want to ensure that your instance meets the following prerequisites:

  1. Adopt Course Home
  2. Have the tenant integration “sealed” (see documentation and blog on the Community) – we took care of it for many customers already in the last few months. To verify that your instance is ready, you can also check your sealing status directly from the Application Administration > Integrated Learning Settings page. Customers can now also self-initiate the sealing of their instance, as detailed in What's New Viewer: Platform Integration Request for Sealing by Administrator.
  3. Activate LMS-IAS integration (for Learning only users)


To further maximize the value of the integrated learning experience, we also recommend that you:

  1. Familiarize yourself with the Talent Intelligence Hub and enable your learners to access Growth Portfolio
  2. Evaluate if Opportunity Marketplace could be a valuable addition for your organization, to drive peer- and experiential learning and provide personalized recommendations across many development opportunities


Note: Course Home became available for users with an external shopping account type as of the 1H 2024 release. 

We have prepared some new documentation to support our customers and their journey to using the new Integrated Learning Experience after the 2H 2023 release of General Availability, and updated it after 1H 2024.  Please reference the two documents below:

Customer Transition Guide for Integrated Learning Experience
Conditions and Rules for Section Display and Supported Activities - Integrated Learning Experience


 

What do our learners need to know about the new experience?

The new experience improves the way learners will interact with learning, and many will find it very intuitive as the usage of interactive cards is similar to the latest SAP SuccessFactors home page.

There are however some significant differences in the new experience, compared to what learners may be used to:

    • The concept of “learning plan” has changed to better reflect the learner’s different motivations and urgency for completion. Previously assigned required training (assigned by others) will be separated from the self-directed learning, to give greater clarity on what workers have to learn vs what they want or need to learn for their own growth.
    • Learning content is organized in different sections and prioritized by due date. Secondary pages allow the learner to deep-dive into more details like learning assignments that are due far in the future.
    • There is a new ability for learners to block their calendars to make time for learning, straight from the home page.
    • Learners will have the ability to easily save learning content for later by using the “bookmark” feature for courses and other learning content, providing an easy way to manage their learning interests and retrieve it in one single page, separated from courses they are already engaged with or have been assigned to.
    • Recommendations will no longer disappear upon click, but only based on explicit user action – either bookmarking to keep the recommendation, or dismissing it as “not interested” – allowing learners to better manage the content they want to save and remove the content they are not interested in from view.
    • If learners are looking for a specific tile or content from the legacy view, the toggle at the top of the page will let them access the previous experience
    • Curricula compliance is shown clearly at the top of the required learning section with a status bubble, but no longer shows the number of curricula open versus completed.
    • Users no longer have to “assign to me” to add items to their learning plans. Instead, bookmarks allow for “save for later” type capability, and self-driven learning drives better learner behaviors.
    • Peer, manager and admin suggested content will show up in the “recommended for you” section

 

What’s next?


Roadmap for the integrated learning experience
The initial focus in the first release was on the learner experience, with a new streamlined user interface that focuses employee learning on what they have to, need to, and want to learn, powered by AI recommendations unique to each employee.

Since then, in 1H 2024, we already: 

  • Enabled access to views and legacy pages directly from the new learning home page, including manager and instructor views, access to learning history, any existing custom pages and custom links... ** See the What's New Viewer
  • Added further capabilities in the "need to learn" area, including non-required assignments and administrator recommendations
  • Support branding and customization capabilities for the new experience with brand new configurable banners and custom cards
  • Further enhanced search capabilities
  • Extended the visual enhancements to the detail pages for learning history

 

1 H 2024 Important learning vision.pngNon-required assignments display in the “Important Learning” section (Prototype)

 

1H 2024 LHP banner vision.png

Configurable banner (Prototype)

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Self-directed learning and task observation requests on Mobile (Prototype)

For more details on the 1H 2024 roadmap and beyond, watch the replay of the latest customer session.

In 2H 2024, we plan* to:

  • Deliver a refreshed, visually consistent manager view
  • Support delegation and approvals from the new learning home page
  • Support the ability to browse the library
  • Offer more customization capabilities with new custom pages leveraging the latest banner and custom card features
  • Further enhance admin capabilities for the integrated learning experience

(*subject to change)

How to adopt

Based on some of our customer feedback, we maintained the flexibility to opt out of the new experience entirely in 1H 2024, for those who may need more time to prepare for the change. We also heard from many other customers the need to be able to fully move to the Integrated Learning Experience quicker, so we added the configuration to hide the switch back to the legacy learning page with 1H 2024.     

When will the integrated learning experience become universal? 

Read below to understand the phased rollout and options:

2H 2024: The option to opt out of the new learning experience will no longer be available. Customers can set the legacy experience as the default experience for learners, by setting the user toggle default to off, which means that learners start with the legacy experience but can choose to use the new experience by turning the toggle to on. Or customers can use the new experience as default using the admin setting, and let their users access the legacy home page via the toggle at the top of the page. 

The new option to use exclusively the new experience (no user toggle on the home page) will of course stay available: Customers who want the new home page to be the ONLY experience, and don't want to offer the legacy experience as an option to learners, can choose to hide the user toggle entirely. 

Customers who are already using the new experience will not see a change in 2H 2024.

2025: The universal push of the new integrated learning experience is scheduled for 2025: this is when the new learning home page will become the only way to access the integrated learning experience. That means that the current version of the home page is planned to be deprecated and all learners will only see the new experience. After that point, there will no longer be access to the previous page.

For more insights on what’s coming for Learning, please make sure to follow the updates on the Customer Community as we will be publishing more information soon and stay tuned for upcoming webinar announcements! We want to hear from you too: leave us your questions and feedback in the comments section below.

77 Comments
pboulicaut
Participant
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Can you elaborate on the impact on non productive learning instances located on production dc ?

What is the expected change that sap wants customers to do to support Talent Intelligent Hub ?

The current feedback given by SAP support is to move those instances into preview datacenter and open influence ticket if customer is not happy about it.

Customer architecture with 3 or more instances is not something that can be changed in the heart beat : he has been carefully reviewed before being adopted . if such massive change is required that will break release management cycle for such customers, the least is to understand the value that is adding.

these last point is yet to be found
nathanharding
Active Participant
I feel that this new learning homepage is very "under-cooked" to be launching without either a Manager/Supervisor "My Teams" or Instructor "My Classes" view!

And that is to say that there is still no standard modern "call to action" dashboard report tiles (e.g. pie chart etc) to show even a basic Curricula compliance for self & Teams showing the Curricula compliance statuses of Competent, Due to expire in XX days & expired.  Allowing the Manager to then select one of these options to filter down to a view of their (or their teams) Curricula that fall within the compliance status selected.

I understand that a lot of companies use SF Learning for white collar workers professional development, but here in Australia it is primarily used to address either legislative or regulatory training and licensing compliance requirements that the Industrial Manslaughter legislation has put to the top of every business priority list.

These changes are not addressing our clients' critical needs and are making it harder for the end users that in a lot of instances aren't the most computer literate to navigate the system.  It is absurd to have a new view with only half the functionality available in the old and expect these people to navigate between the two.

If there is one thing to learn from Apple is that you need to remove barriers from people adopting technology and not add them which I feel that this is doing.

I'd be happy to hear other people's thoughts on this.

Regards,

Nathan H.
AmelieFidric
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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Hello Nathan,

Thank you for sharing your feedback and perspective.

We are releasing the new integrated learning experience in phases, based on the analysis we've done around usage, user friendliness and ease of use, and continued access to the features we already support. The focus of this first release, as outlined in this blog, is the learner's experience: completing required training, easily discovering new learning opportunities through enhanced search and intelligent recommendations, while bringing the learner clarity into what's due next and the ability to easily keep track of and make time for learning. There will be further experience enhancements and functionality over time, as you can see also on our roadmap.

While we have several customers who are ready to adopt the new experience right away with the first release, we also recognize that others may need a little more time, which is why customers will have the ability to opt out of the first release.
Sheri_Pellerin
Explorer
Hi Amelie -

When do you anticipate the My Classes, My Team, Business & Functional and Support tabs being added?  I also don't see the Links tile which we use both for end users and managers.  Without access to these features we'll have no choice but to opt out.

Thanks in advance for the additional information!

Best regards,

Sheri
timkilleen
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hi amelie.fidric ,

Thank you for a great post. Along similar lines as previous comments, there seems to be a lot of existing functionality that is not initially being captured/replicated in the new ILX homepage; including "My Team" "Links" & "My Classes" tiles.

Similarly, it doesn't appear that "Custom Tiles" feature will be supported in the new ILX home page. I also don't see any mention of Custom Tiles in the roadmap/Transition Guide. Are there any plans to include custom tile functionality in ILX or will it be phased out and eventually deprecated? I understand the customer can still access their custom tiles via legacy UI view. However, it would be good to have some clarity around these features & tiles, as if they are going away completely customers will need to know asap so they can start making the necessary plans for changes and transformation.

Thanks & Regards!

Tim

Simon-bo
Explorer
Dear SF Product management Team,

First of all, I would like to thank you very much for making this old ugly surface a thing of the past. The new approach including recommendations is super and looks great from a learner's point of view. This is a big milestone in the right direction! We are very happy as it makes learning much more attractive. Of course, we still miss a few features, especially the manager and instructor, but hopefully that will come soon.

Thank a lot for this big enhancement.

Simon
AmelieFidric
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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Hi Tim,

thank you for your feedback. We are evaluating how the custom tiles will be brought into the new integrated learning experience - this is on our roadmap for 2024.

Best regards,

Amelie
AmelieFidric
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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Thank you Simon for this great feedback! Please refer to the roadmap for the next enhancements to the new integrated learning experience, such as the Manager view.

Kind regards,

Amelie
LilyL
Explorer
Hi there. I agree with others that the new learning experience looks amazing and does a great job to modernize the SF learning experience. However given that some key functionality is still missing, could SAP please consider continuing to allow customers to opt out and disable the new learning experience until there is better feature parity, or at least until 2H2024? Asking employees to use the toggle switch between new and legacy isn't a very good user experience and will reduce user acceptance.  Also, staff typically don't like change, so communicating to them once is ideal vs communicating the latest features during each release.

Thanks!
former_member99226
Participant
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Hello,

I am unable to access the link for whole self model. Please advise on which community should I join to access the link.

Thanks and Regards

Avinesh Sundar
RobbiJ
Explorer
I'm sorry, but this 'New Learning Experience' is the most ill-conceived release in my history as an SF LMS admin. Releasing 10% of the functionality required by users with a coat of lipstick on it and then expecting them to WIPE THE LIPSTICK OFF to access the other 90% is, well, ridiculous. You're asking us to train users on an entirely new look and feel, and then tell them to turn it OFF to do what they need to do.

I get that you are designing in phases, and that's fine. But you need to have a holistic plan in place that considers how people use the system and how users will adapt to the changes. Release it to admins in phases to preview the functionality if we want, sure... but don't enable it for end users until it's useful. It's like buying us a new car with all the cool new features, and then not giving us the key and telling us that all we're allowed to do is let it roll to the end of the driveway - we have to get in our old car to actually get anywhere. Colour me disappointed.
kate_fahey
Explorer
I also feel the new learning experience is not developed enough for a production release. The quick click to access the My Teams tab and other features like that are key to our usage. The ability to design our own landing page that suits the needs of our organization is one of the reasons my company choose SAP SuccessFactors.  Please listen to the customer feedback on the development and release of such major changes.  Thanks!
Sara_Hrizai
Explorer
Agree with comments above - although the initial look of this new landing page is pretty, some very key functions are missing (My Teams, My Classes, Learning History, Featured Tile, Individual reports via the Links tile).  We are likely unable to implement until those functionalities are available.
CharlesGirdwood
Active Participant
I would like to know if there is an update of when Personalized Recommendations will be available. As per KBA 3382799 - Rollout Schedule for Personalized Recommendations, all Data Center are in Not Enabled status, and no release date at all.

3382799 - Rollout Schedule for Personalized Recommendations - SAP for Me

Thanks!
MichaelWright
Participant
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I agree - Cmon SAP what is the update???
heidirobinson
Participant
Agree with all the comments above about this being released way too soon to be useful to pretty much anyone.  The roadmap for learning also contains no information in relation to some of the missing Key elements to the new experience.. Can we get more information on when we will reach parity so we can plan when we will likely go live with the adoption of the new learning experience?
Lik
Explorer

I agree with all the comments above. It will be also helpful for us, if we know what functions will be available in which release. that always will help us to plan internally of further testing.

SAP SuccessFactors Learning#new learning home page

Cindy_Brunswick
Participant

We have the new learning experience turned on and really like the patch for the other sections of learning. We only use limited filters in our search functionality. In the legacy library search- we have 2 items visible. In the new learning experience it has multiple areas that we do not want visible to users. Is there a way to turn this search functionality off? 

Legacy learning

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New learning home page

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SAP SuccessFactors Learning#new learning home page 

GabbyZilkha
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

Hi Cindy @Cindy_Brunswick 

Controlling which filters get shown to the end users is not possible with new search today. We are looking to introduce a tool that allows admins to control what filters are shown as a feature for a future release. 

Best, 

Gabby 

Cindy_Brunswick
Participant

Thanks Gabby

We hope it will be this feature will be sooner rather than a future release as we do not use most of these filter areas and it will be confusing to our end users. 

StefanL
Explorer

Hi,

Please can you confirm when the legacy Learning Home will be fully deprecated and what date will customers need to use the new Learning Home page (New Learning Experience)?

We have previously been advised by SAP that all customers will have no choice to use the new Learning Home page by April 2025.

However the Deprecation of Legacy Learning Home Page | SAP Help Portal states "As of 2H 2024, the new Learning home page will be Universal and you won't be able to opt out of the feature"

Please can you confirm the dates?

elissavereeken
Explorer

Hi,

We noticed during our testing of the new Learning experience home page, that when you assign a curriculum to yourself > the optional assigned courses (that are included in the curriculum) are not appearing anywhere. 

We would assume to find them in the 'Invest in myself' section, but they only appear if you for example register for a class (if it's an instructor-led training). So currently the only option would be then to bookmark these optional items, to make sure that you don't forget all about them?

Is this something that will be added in the future? So that everything that was assigned previously, will show up on the new home page?

Thank you in advance for the feedback!

Kind regards,

Elissa

MichaelWright
Participant

@elissavereeken In my 2024-1H-LMS SAP 'SuccessFactors - Learning' Release testing, I also am having problems that sound like you are having.  What I noticed is not necessarily around the Optional assigned courses but rather...

If I assign the Item (can be of any Assignment Type including Optional) the Item launches properly using the new Course Home interface.  But when I have a Curric that contains let's just say that one item above, that launched fine as an item, but now gives me an error that says 'Loading' when you click to Start the Course.  It doesn't seem to matter if I try to launch from the new Course Home interface under the 'Required Learning' heading, or I click it from within the 'Curricula' drop down.

To restate - when just assigned the Item, all works well.

It is only having problems when in a Curric using the new Course Home interface.

When I drop back to use the legacy Course Home everything works fine.

This is just another reason I won't be turning this on in Production until I am forced to do it, which sounds like it is 2024-2H-LMS Release.

It does feel like the bugs are getting fewer and fewer.

Do you have a SAP SuccessFactors ticket open already for your issue, and if so, can you share the ticket#?

I may also open up a ticket as well, but I might note your ticket in my ticket.

AmelieFidric
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

@elissavereeken 

When you assign a curriculum to yourself, you would see the items required for completion of that curriculum show up under "Invest in myself". Items that are not required for completion of that curriculum would not show up as part of the learnings you need to complete, but they will show in this section if you had started them or registered for example (that is, you had already started engaging with the item). 

Hope this clarifies.  

Please see the linked documentation "transition guide" and "rules" above, as they detail the logic of the different sections of the new home page.

MichaelWright
Participant
0 Kudos

@AmelieFidric My Curric has 1 Item in it, and it's not taking the Item out of the Curric and placing it under "Invest in myself" area to continue completion.

HeatherR
Explorer

We have the new learning experience on in preview. If you are on the Learning home page, and click a link from either the Dashboards or Activities menus, a new browser tab opens when a menu option is selected. For example, if a learner is on the learning home page and selects Learning History, a new browser tab opens showing the Learning History page. They can return to My Learning from the breadcrumb at the top of the page, however, they are not in the initial learning page window they started from and this is causing multiple browser tabs of different pages if you access the different menu options often. I can see this causing problems and confusion. Is having multiple browser tabs open the expected behavior when navigating through the LMS? 

nkumrob
Associate
Associate

@HeatherR Thanks for your feedback. We working on documenting this as a known issue and work on a fix for it. 

elissavereeken
Explorer

@AmelieFidric,

This indeed confirms what I was thinking, thank you for the clarification! But my concern would be that if you do not click on the curriculum details, see that there are still some optional courses to do, that you would not even know that there are still some interesting courses to take. As they currently do not show up on the home page, unless you found them in the items list of the curriculum and interacted with them.

Will this become more visible in the future? 

Thank you!

@MichaelWright,

Yes, we logged a ticket for this, but they mentioned the same thing, so that it is standard behavior at the moment.

 

heidirobinson
Participant

@StefanL I also wanted to know the answer to this, I ended up on expert chat because the dates didn't make sense to me either. So this is the response i got - I hope this is useful to you!!

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joshpassman
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert
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@MichaelWright 

Hi Michael, can you create a ticket on this loading issue with screenshots/screen recordings if possible? I'd like to see what this loading error looks like, but this doesn't seem like expected behavior to me.

maweSSI
Explorer

Hi,

we have currently a mismatch of programs in the ILX. The case: When an employee registers to a duration-based program with Required Type "REQ", we see different outcomes in the database and reporting on the one hand and its display on the new learning home page. In our case we can't change the required type, as we also use this program in APs. 

Display in ILX: This program shows up in the "invest in myself" bucket, because it is self assigned.

Reporting: In the reports learning plan and learning needs, as well as in the admin view, the program is defined as required type "REQ". For manager reports this is highly misleading, as for managers it might look like, that the program is required to finish - which is cleary not always the case, as it was self assigned.

Is there any way to align this mismatch? Ideally that self assigned programs, do not inherit the "REQ"-Required type of the program, when self assigned.

KimHughes
Participant

Is anyone having an issue with uploading banner to new Learning home page?  We are trying to upload and it keeps spinning.

JonasBärtschi
Participant

Hi @KimHughes 

This is an authorization issue. Please follow the steps outlined in the following KBA: 3463965 - [1H24] Issues While Uploading Images in LMS Custom Card and Banner - SAP for Me

Heidilee
Explorer

Hi,

I have seen somewhere that the ability for designated delegates to act on behalf of managers in the new experience is planned for 2H 2024. Can I check if the alternate line manager functionality is also planned for 2H 2024? This is something we use heavily so just trying to plan ahead in terms of our own approach, comms, testing etc. 

Thanks

Heidi 

LARECE
Newcomer

Good day,
Is there any functionality from the old learning experience that has not been brought over to the new learning experience?
Thank you

stephmccue
Explorer

Hello - 

The links in this document do not work. Guide for Integrated Learning Experience Transition.pdf (sap.com)

See screenshot below for just some examples. 

6.25.24_ILX doc links.jpg

Can this document be corrected and shared again? 

Thanks,

Steph

dmak
Participant

Please bring back the links to optional surveys.  Many companies have already voted for bringing back this feature: https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/325714/?section=sectionDetails

We don't want to be strict to the point of not granting people completion on the basis of survey but we do want to encourage people as much as possible to take the optional survey.  It does not help if there are no longer links on the new home to access surveys.

dmak
Participant

I have submitted an influence suggestion for newly added courses to be available immediately on new home page instead of 6-24 hours: https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/324540/?section=sectionDetails

Someone also made a comment on the influence idea that this suggestion has been submitted multiple times, is there any plan to address this?  

The new home page is supposed to be an improvement over the old home page but right now it seems to be making us go backwards--we are losing functionalities that we already have today?

LilyL
Explorer
0 Kudos

Does anyone know if/when Featured Courses will be available in the new learning home page? 

kareeyn
Explorer

Will the new learning homepage be a universal push for vLMS customers in H22024 as well? Or will SAP stick to the release schedule and vLMS customers receive the univeral push in October 2025?

AmelieFidric
Product and Topic Expert
Product and Topic Expert

@kareeyn 

there is no universal push in 2H 2024 since the legacy home page is still available side by side. It's only the opt-out that will go away.

vSaaS customers will receive the 2H 2024 changes as per their regular schedule. 

kareeyn
Explorer
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@AmelieFidric : Thank you very much for your answer! Just so that I understand correctly: Currently, the new my learning homepage is not activated / visible for users in our productive vLMS system. From the vLMS release in October 2024, the new my learning homepage will be visible, but the user can switch back to the "old" learning homepage and from the vLMS release 2025 it will no longer be possible for the users to switch back, right? Or do we have the option of hiding the new learning homepage for all users after the release in October 2024?

 

 

CMezger
Participant

Hello,

i have two questions about the new homepage, as I have not found any specific information on this.

1. Training feedback 
We work with optional training feedback (Level 1 Feedback) and cannot see it on the new HomePage, even if the task type "required for achievement point" is activated.
Will the display of optional training feedback be available with 2H2024?

2. Function "Launch Proxy"
In article 3389475 it is only described that,  
The "Launch Proxy" action (Learning Administration > People > Users > Actions) will display the legacy Learning home page, even with the "New Learning Experience" toggle on for the user being proxied.
Will this function still be available when the legacy home page is switched off?

Thanks for your feedback

Conny

StefanL
Explorer

In the New ILX, Items within a Curriculum that have a Recommended or Optional Assignment Type (at Curriculum level) do not appear in the New ILX Home Page when assigned to a user (or previously assigned). 

In our Staging environment Items within a Curriculum that had a Blank Assignment Type (at Curricula level) did appear in the New ILX homepage as Required. There was a Staging outage on Monday 22nd July and Since Tuesday 23rd July, these Items don't appear as Required.

1. Please can someone confirm what is the expected behaviour for Items in a Curriculum that have a Blank Assignment Type at the Curriculum level?

2. Based on my experience working with various SF LMS customers, Curriculum's tend to contain a blend of Required and Non Required Assignment Types, however a user could still launch the Non Required items via the legacy learning homepage without having to navigate to the Curriculum contents page.

Has there been any considerations from SAP to change the behaviour of Items within a Curriculum that have a Non Required Assignment Type (at Curriculum level) to appear in the Important Learning section rather than not appearing at all?

Thanks

heidirobinson
Participant

I have been doing testing in our Development environment and I have tested the following scenarios that are not visible to the end user:

1. Item in curricula - flagged as Optional - No Due Date - doesn't show anywhere in new ILX homepage

2. Item in curricula - flagged as Optional - WITH Due Date - doesn't show anywhere in new ILX homepage

3. Requirement pool in curricula - No Due Date - doesn't show anywhere in new ILX homepage

4. An item I added to a library 36 hours ago is still not visible in the "enhanced" search

5. Item search is not finding loads of items that have been in the library for months/years 

We really don't want to go live to our company with so many known issues, it's so embarrassing having to communicate to our employees that we have this new look but nothing works - can we get visibility ASAP of what is going to be fixed in 2h24 so we can decide if we should wait for the universal push? You really get one opportunity to sell big change to people and this is not going to land well.

How can SAP allow optional items in curricula but think it's OK to remove all visibility of these optional items, without making someone go to the links dropdown to check each individual curricula to see if there's any optional items contained? How can SAP call it an "Enhanced" search when legacy search is finding everything immediately and the new search isn't finding anything and takes hours to refresh.  Honestly the new experience looks much better but that is it, a pretty facade and the functionality is barely there.

Edited: because you can use the small 3 line dropdown at the top to view curricula and their full contents from the New ILX homepage - but from being able to see all optional items on the legacy page to having to do multiple clicks to various obscure buttons, to check if there's optional items is still a bad UX.

babjishaik1
Discoverer

Hi,

Can you please let us know until when the legacy learning home page is be deleted and new learning home page will be made universal for validated customers.

Thank you

nathanharding
Active Participant

Hi @@notify

I have taken my frustration of SAP Learnings current focus as demonstrated by the comments above on making "things look pretty" and "using AI to make giving suggestions to people for possible career development opportunities" and decided to create the following the SuccessFactors Learning/ Improvement Request that would actually make our jobs as LMS administrators easier:

Import Job or addition of a Connector Description for Custom Fields descriptions upload/update

https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/328839

Have a read on how I believe this issue could be solved, please comment to give us your thoughts and Vote for it, if you believe that it is something that would greatly benefit us the LMS administrators and improve the product overall.

Regards,

Nathan H.

PS: While on the topic of these enhancement Requests/ideas I am really getting frustrated with SAP focus on "Thank you for your idea submission! As our current focus is on Reimagining the User Experience, expanding our Skill and Capability based learning model, offering Intelligent Learning Recommendations and Opportunities across the SuccessFactors Suite, and providing the most modern tracking and reporting tools, this idea is not planned for delivery on the current roadmap. As we look to enhance this area of the learning process, we will review and consider your idea at that time".  

While we are waiting for enhancements that we have requested/supported like:

REQUEST SF SUPPORT FOR TIN CAN API
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/47258
Submitted on: Feb 1, 2017
Status:  Accepted
Votes:   228

Improve Enrolment Notification & MS teams notification incl. ICS calendar entry
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/320808
Status: Submitted
Votes: 67

Mass modification/deletion of History Data
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/221413
Status:  Accepted
Votes:   264
NOT ON THE ROAD MAP!

Instructor Record Learning and attachment supporting Documentation functionality in One Step Request ID: 206376, 
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/206376 
Status: For Long-term Consideration (Decision: "Unde...


Recording completions for multiple people
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#idea/233122 
Status: For Long-term Consideration (Decision: Next u...


Custom Columns within Notification Template Tag
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#/idea/242704
Status:  For Long-term Consideration
Votes:   22
Decisi...

Integrate photographic capability on (a) mobile device with task checklist to attach evidence
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#idea/206448 
Status: Acknowledged
Votes:   33
Decision Date:  2020-0...

Allow a task observer to attach one or more files when recording learning
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#idea/234558 
Status: Under Review
Votes:   56
Decision Date:  2020-0...

(Record learning for) Licences (& other learning types) that have future issue date
https://influence.sap.com/sap/ino/#idea/218796 
Status: Under Review
Votes:   35

It is almost like SAP SuccessFactors Learning development team have gotten distracted by the "bright and shiny" new toy of Intelligent Learning Recommendations and have forgotten that this is a tool that a large majority of the companies use as a Compliance tool for their workforce!  Which in Australia with the new "industrial Manslaughter" legislation that is being rolled out across the country is of critical importance as the changes have massive impacts for individuals and companies alike.

 I almost feel like we are being "gaslighted" by SAP, in them accepting some of the above requests and then doing nothing with them!  It unfortunately seems to have been a long time since I have seen an enhancement in a release that improves the Learning Administration functionality of this Module!  Can anyone give me an example from the past few years as I would be happy to be proved wrong? 

SAP SuccessFactors Learning

Kayleigh
Explorer

I see that dmak has also raised an enhancement about the surveys in an earlier comment. But from our side I would like to express some concerns as well, as optional surveys are currently a key feature in our learning landscape.

With the H2 2024 our end users will have the old and the new page side by side. If they are on the latest version, they will have no way of seeing that their are surveys available to them, in their dashboard.

This will lead to a loss in data that we need, to make sure we can continue to improve our learning offerings for our end user.

Are optional surveys planned to be added in the upcoming release or is this not part of any road map yet?

Not just as a point to the surveys but in general, I don't understand why SAP is removing the option to hide a new version of their product when the new version is not on par with what we currently have in place. This leaves us as a customer in a strange position in trying to prepare our business to adopt something that is not ready yet and will be a deprecation to their current way of working.

You can only make a first impression once.

Why not allow the customer to pick a moment when all existing features are available and we are confident that that impression will be good?

JoClarkson
Explorer
0 Kudos

Just a question about the thumbnail images for the courses. The recommendation is to use 16:9 aspect ratio images which present nicely on the home page but on the Course home view, they have lines at the top and bottom. Will this be changed? How are other companies getting around this? 

Heidilee
Explorer
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@JoClarkson - we have the same issue. I was expecting the images to automatically resize based on the info in the transition guide (pg 19: SuccessFactors is adopting 16x9 aspect ratio for course thumbnails so that we can deliver a user experience that's modern, engaging, and consistent. Create images for your courseware that will work in both 16x9 and 1x1 aspect ratio.)

I have an open ticket with SAP to query this... if you raise a ticket please feel free to reference this: 918905