UJ_VALIDATION and input /load authorization

[Former Member]

Hi Experts,

I Wonder the real difference between UJ_VALIDATION Rules and CONTROLS,

Reading some topics , helps, and bpc documentation, I understand, that by implementing VALIDATION RULES, i Can manage authorized and unauthorized crossing data .

by this way, i can prevent users if they try to send data on unauthorized data crossing,

is that correct ?

tks a lot ?

olivia

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

Hi Olivia,

With UJ_VALIDATION you can globally prevent writing to some intersections.

But what is not clear?

Vadim

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Thanks a lot Vadim,

I fact I do not the functional difference between VALIDATION et the RUN CONTROL ?

When is it executed ? I mean the VALIDATION.

The Controls are executed manually or while passing workstatus, right ?

Tks.

Olivia.

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

And UJ_VALIDATION is executed immediately after you press save button in the input schedule!

Vadim

[jrg_finster3 · Accepted solution]

In my Opinion controls are used to "control" workstatus and to perform checks on already posted Data.

Validations do their check before saving data. (for ex. A user is only allowed to enter revenue on a product 1 for plant A becuase product is only available there)

Regards

Jörg

*edit* ok Vadim was faster

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Oh Great

So, UJ_VALIDATION execute same Controls Rules  or is it another one ?

Do I need to put my Validation Logic in the Default ?

[Former Member · Accepted solution]

Ok Great to both of you

thats much clearer for me

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

Sorry, you have to read basic document about UJ_VALIDATION!

Vadim

P.S. Nothing related to controls and default logic!

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

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[damovand · Accepted solution]

Hi Olivia,

Controls are the more evolved version of validation introduced in BPC 10. Work status is and was an independent feature to lock data as defined in work status definitions. When controls were introduced the dependency between the two features began.  However, in BPC 10.1 the dependency  between control and work status has become optional. 

Before Controls were introduced in BPC 10, validation was the only way to do some simple validation before closing the books.  Then controls were introduced providing the ability to do more sophisticated formulas. but some customers preferred validation which is why they still use it.

Best Regards,

Leila

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

Hi Leila,

Looks like you are mixing two different things - validation rule (simple controls) and UJ_VALIDATION badi. Absolutely different things...

Vadim

[damovand · Accepted solution]

Hi Vadim,

I could be mixing up the BADI part of it, but I think the validation part goes back to the functionality that evolved to control.  I checked BPC notes regarding UJ_VALIDATION and didn’t find anything specific to UJ_VALIDATION that will distinguish it otherwise.  In note 1743640 the description of UJ_VALIDATION is stated to be validation maintenance.  The only validation I know from BPC 7.5 is validating by checking the value in certain accounts.  This later was changed into controls, which allow for more sophisticated formulas.

Anyway, the main point I wanted to make was that controls and work status are different functions.

Regards,

Leila

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

Hi Leila,

The note 1743640 is missing, but if you want to understand how to configure input validation using UJ_VALIDATION - please read the already mentioned document

It's old but still valid.

Vadim

[damovand · Accepted solution]

Hi Vadim,

Thanks for the referenced document.  I will definitely read that document to get a better idea.  By the way I didn't think anything from BPC 7 would be valid anymore

I have worked with BPC since it was Outlooksoft and I sometimes cannot recognize some functions that used to be very familiar to me.

Best Regards,

Leila

[former_member186338 · Accepted solution]

"I didn't think anything from BPC 7 would be valid anymore" - 100% valid! No changes And still used for immediate data validation after send. The alternative is write back badi... but UJ_VALIDATION can perform simple tests without ABAP programming!

Vadim