on 01-16-2009 6:42 AM
Dear Friends,
Can anybody tell me What is Positive & Negative Time Management means
What r the things to be included in Positive Time Management and things to be included in Negative Time Management.
Pls. help me m new to SAP HR and wanna know about these two things.
Regards,
Prashant
Hi Prashant,
Positive Time (+ve Time) Positive time is plays the total role of workflow. All the processes related to time are automatically gets executed in the background. E.g., in our case it is done only partially to validate the attendance as per punches and other documents with shift timing and generate absence automatically in case of any discrepancy.
.Negative Time (-ve Time) ? Where the all time related activities like validation of the attendance, posting of absence for wage deduction etc are done manually. It has less level of integration among the different components of time management.
Positive Time Management we have two types of recordings:
1. With Clock times - Complete time recording is captured
2. With out Clock times - Only Number of hourse worked is captured
Negetive time Management:
1. No clock times and assumed employee is working unless and until his or her absences are entered.
Warm Regards,
Kapil
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Hi Prashant,
What we have to track depends on so many scenarios . Time management scenarios are very vast and depends from client to client.
We can consider two independent systems:
1. SAP System which contains Planned Working time
2. Time recorder system which contains the actual timings
Now as Time recorder system will contain all Clock in & Clock outs, the data needs to be uploaded to SAP system either as Scheduled job at back end or online in critical cases.
Based on our Time pair and other IMG settings in SAP System and comparison of IT2011 with IT2000, it generates values of OT,Absences etc etc.
This job can be effectively done in proper coordination with Basis, ABAPers and Time Consultants.
A lot of Z development have to be made in postive time management and BDC for the updataion of the time data in SAP r/3
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How Quotas are generated via time eveluation depends in postive time managemet.
Regards,
Kapil
Hi Kapil,
I want some more clarification on Positive Time Management without Clocktimes. What i undestand is in Positive Time Management without Clocktimes is the time between the first clockin and last logout is recorded. Is it so? where as Positive Time Management with Clocktimes is every clockin and clock out is recorded on that day for the employee. Please let me know
Regards
Rakesh
In +Ve TM. you enter all worked time For ex, Reg Hours, OT etc... If you record hours u get paid for the no of hours.
In -Ve Tm, you enter only exceptions such as leave / unpaid leave. System assumes u worked and only when an LOP or abense is encountered, it reduces salary. Otherwise full salary is paid.
+Ve is more complex to Implement. U need to Configure attendance for each of the type of work you do.
You will end up using Time Evaluation for calculation depending on the complexity.
-Ve is Simpler compared to +Ve. We can manage with Absence configuration.
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With Negative, we can go with Clock time?
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Hi Prashant,
-ve Time Mgt reads only Deviations Like Absence, Compoff, Over time.
E.g. It means that system treats employee to be present on all days except on the days when absence is recorded.
and System captures only Deviations.
+ve deals with all things like his daily attendence, absence and Over time,
System checks weather employees Swipe IN's and SWIPE OUT's and checks weather he is present for all 8hrs or taken any unpaid break in Between. here the system also cheks Begin Tolerance and End Tolerance. if required.
Regards,
Vinod.
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