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Issue with : Perform Maintenance Jobs without assignment functionality

Riyaj
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Hi Experts,

While exploring one of client requirement: As ' Supervisor can confirm the work without assigning WO/Operations to his name',

I can came across below node and did configuration accordingly. ( shown in fig 2)

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Expectation from system behaviour is : System to allow [Perform Maintenance Jobs app] supervisor to confirm the Job/operations without assigning to his name or allow to confirm the Job even it is assigned to other technician(s)

Observation is, System is not behaving as mentioned above ? Am I missing something here ? 

Any comments or suggestion or alternative solution to client requirement ?

BR,

Riyaj

 

 

 

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Tim_Jones
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Hi Riyaj,

Refer to comment thread from Vikas in this previous response: question

Also refer to commentary in SAP Note: 3434428

There is a bit of logic that is coded into this app:

  • "Quick Confirmation" action only works for the 'assigned technician'.
  • Once the original Technician has assigned themselves AND started the Order Operation, then non-assigned technicians can post time confirmations to the operation.
  • Those additional time confirmations can't be done by the technicians via the "Quick Confirmation" action, those technicians must drill into the operation and use the Record Time subscreen.

Tim

Riyaj
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Thanks Tim for your response, In summary Job(s) / operation(s) has to be assigned to individual, without assignment it is not possible to confirm the Job, I also understand other scenario where technician can confirm the Job without assigning to himself for Job which is already assigned to supervisor. Thanks.
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Hi Tim,
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Hi Tim, i have indicated the 'Confirm Jobs without Assignment' in Customizing (table V_T350_CONF_CTRL) and i have discovered that 'Start' button is not displayed in the detail of an item (operation page) of the 'Perform Maintenance Jobs' application, when a user without PERNR assigned access to the operation and this operation is not assigned to anybody. This button is only displayed when i access to a operation in which my user is assigned to. As i found out (https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_S4HANA_ON-PREMISE/e72f747389b340229f7fa343975bfa57/3da57072a73444f18b5...), this 'Start' button should be displayed because, as the web page mentioned, "Unassigned maintenance technician: Maintenance work can also be performed by technicians who are not assigned to a job, for example, if they do not have a personnel number.". Please, could you confirm me if it is the expected behaviour? Kind regards, Luis García Arredondo
Tim_Jones
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Hi Luis,

Refer to this section in the help documentation that you have posted: https://help.sap.com/docs/SAP_S4HANA_ON-PREMISE/e72f747389b340229f7fa343975bfa57/3da57072a73444f18b5...

Unassigned maintenance technician: Maintenance work can also be performed by technicians who are not assigned to a job, for example, if they only perform supporting tasks or do not have a personnel number. As an unassigned maintenance technician, the tasks you can perform depend on the settings that have been defined in the Customizing activity Define Control Parameters for Perform Maintenance Jobs:

  1. With the default behavior of the app, you cannot start or finish any jobs or post time confirmations. If you perform supporting activities, an assigned technician is responsible for recording time on your behalf for these activities.
  2. If the control parameter Confirm Jobs without Assignment has been selected, you cannot start or finish any jobs, but you can post partial time confirmations for yourself. However, you cannot select the Final Confirmation option for a job.
  3. If the control parameter Perform Jobs and Record Time Without Personnel Number has been selected, you can start, pause, finish, and post time confirmations for a job. This option allows technicians without employee master data to perform jobs that are not assigned to another technician. When you post a time confirmation for yourself, you do not need to specify a personnel number. The time confirmation is posted against the work center. If another technician records time for supporting activities on your behalf without specifying a personnel number, the confirmation is posted against the activity type.

You currently have the setting "Confirm Jobs without Assignment" (Option #2 above) which states that you "cannot start or finish any jobs"

You would likely need to change that setting to "Perform Jobs and Record Time Without Personnel Number" (Option #3 above) which does state that you can start and finish jobs.

Let me know how you go.

Tim

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Hi Tim, thanks for your reply. In my case, we have a SAP S/4HANA 2022 and the setting 'Perform Jobs and Record Time Without Personnel Number' is not avaible (only #1 and #2 are available). I wanted to attached an image but i can´t do it in this comment.
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Hi Tim, your answer has been very helpful. That is the answer i was looking for. Thanks a lot
xlopez92
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Hello Luis, kindly ask what solution you applied. We do not have SP3 upgrade so need to assign personnel number, but we do not have the HR module active for that. Only solution so far is to use IW41 so not nice. Also 'Confirm Jobs without Assignment' not working too. Thanks and Kind Regards