Generating firmed Planned orders

[Former Member]

We have an issue with Planned orders.
Planned orders are getting firmed as on today(Monday) on certain dates like 30th Oct and 6th Nov.for few of the materials. When we seen on 31st, firmed planned orders were on 29 Oct and 05th Nov.

We assume that it is following some period pattern, after some period there will be normal planned orders without firming indicators for the same material.

We have checked following parameters:
MRP has been run through background Job, no manual intervention, the MRP type is PD, Lot size EX, Rescheduling Horizon is 100 days, Tolerance Value for displacement is 14 days.

One more thing obserevd that there is extra tab "Action control" with Action "SCHE" added for the planned order for which firmed indicators were there.
For the normal planned orders there is no such Action control Tab.

Please help us to identify how and why the firming indicator updated for the planned orders for few certain dates. Is this because of any configuration setting or any master data driving such firming considering certail intervals.

Thanks in advance

[Liza2]

Good day.

Sounds like you have the firming time fence set on these particular items. This means someone has set the planning time fence and planning cycle (MRP1). It is working with the planning calendar (MRP2) and all other MRP trigger settings placed in the MRP tabs of the material master. If you set the planning time fence and the planning cycle, MRP will automatically firm all planned procurement orders during that time frame indicated. Remove the planning time fence entry and the planning cycle entry and orders will no longer come through in firmed status. 

[Former Member]

Hi Raj,

It may be releated to the action control you have maintained in the MRP4 view.

You can check config at MRP->Procurement Proposals->Planned Orders->Action for Planned Order.

SCHE action control will be defined over here.

Try correcting control, or remove if not relevant.

You can refer this link for details on setting action control: Mass Changes of Planned Orders (Action Control) - Material Requirements Planning (PP-MRP) - SAP Libr...

Thanks,

Prem

[Former Member]

Hello Caetano & Prem.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Apologies for late response from my end.

We have checked that there is no action control has been maintained in MRP 4 view.

Also we tried to identify if there is any function module MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF for action control.

We could not find any such functional module implemented.

As suggested by Caetano we have also checked the User name. We have observed that If there are 20 firmed plannd orders, 15 firmed planned orders with user name Autobatch run and 5 out of them can be found with manual made.

Another observation here is few planned orders are created in Planning tool( not APO, other 3rd party tool) is getting reflected with firmed indicator with the specific user name once they are sent from Planning tool to SAP system by using send to option.

Still we are not clear how come firming indicator is updated to Planned orders in case user name is Autobatch (Automatic batch run) .

Thanks for your patience and execllent support.

[Caetano]

Hi Raj

It's very clear that there is a mass processing job being executed in background firming the planned orders. You must check the planned order time stamp, which stores the date and time of the last change. Then, you must check which batches were being executed by this user at the same time. This way you will find out exactly which program is fiming the orders.

BR
Caetano

[Former Member]

Hi,

Check the MRP type settings in OMDQ.

Check the planning calender/Planning Cycle assigned in Material Master if so check in MD26

Regards,

Ravi

[Former Member]

Hi Experts,

Thanks for your quick response.

We have checked the details of MRP type setting and Planning calendar details as follows.

MRP type is PD and configuration settings is original like "Planning results not firmed".

Planning cycle, Planning calendar, Planning time fence are not being maintained in Material master.

Please help us to identify how and why the firming indicator updated for the planned orders for few certain dates. Is this because of any configuration setting or any master data driving such firming orders considering certail intervals.

Thanks in advance

[MarianoCabalen]

Hi Raj,

Check the change on and changed by info from your planned order. Then check in SM37 if there is a job running at the time in which the planned order is modified.

Kind Regards,

Mariano

[Former Member]

Hi Marino,

Thanks for your suggestion.

As you suggested we have tried to identify if there is any Job name for the Plant in SM37. Also tried to find according to the timing of the Planned order creation and changed by.

We could not find the relavant Job name at the time planned order was created. Only one Job name we have identified which is related to QM inspection clearance.

We could not find the option of Planned order modified by.

Please help us to identify how the planned order getting firmed.

Thanks in advance.

[Former Member]

Hi Experts,

Please note that the exception messages are observed in MD04 screen as 10- Rescheduled in and 44 - Order Proposals re exploded for the planned orders which are getting firmed.

Can we make use of the above exception message to understand why the Planned orders are getting firmed.

Please help us to identify how and why the firming indicator updated for the planned orders for which the basic start dates are with in next 4 or 5 days.

Thanks in advance.

[Caetano]

Hi Raj

MRP may firm planned orders dynamically when you are using an MRP with a proper firming type but it does not change the firming indicator.

The firming indicator is set automatically by any change made by the user on transaction MD12 or by a partial conversion. You can find on table PLAF (field PUSER) the user who last changed the planned order.

Also check if the BAdI MD_PLDORD_CHANGE is implemented and if the firming indicator is set on this BAdI.

BR
Caetano

[Former Member]

Hi Caetano,

Thanks for your support.

We have checked that there is no such BADI implemented for Planned orders.

Aslo there is no any firming types are used. MRP type is PD.

Also if we see todays firmed planned orders, there is shifting in date 1 day+.

Firmed planned orders are appearing for 7th (Basisc dates), yesterday it was for 6th, like wise shifting by 1 day daily.

Is there any setting in configuration causing this firming in MD04 considering certain periods.

Thanks in advance.

[Caetano]

Hi

Try to search if there is any custom program changing the firmming indicator.

You can use transaction CODE_SCANNER and check on package 'Z*' if table PLAF is changed.

BR

Caetano

[Former Member]

Hi Caetano,

Thanks for your back to back support.

As you suggested we have checked CODE_SCANNER, we could not find the Custom program that changing the firming indicator.

We are still not in a position to address where the setting is made which is causing firming planned orders.

Thanks in advance

[Caetano]

Hi Raj

I read the entire thread again and I have noticed that I missed a very important information.

You have mentioned that the tab "Action Control" has been created for the firmed planned orders, therefore, I believe that you are using function module MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF to run mass changes on a planned order. See the following link for more details:

Mass Changes of Planned Orders (Action Control) - Procurement Proposal (PP-MRP-PP) - SAP Library

This kind of change will also lead the firmming indicator to be set, therefore, you should check who is making such changes.

You may use transaction CODE_SCANNER to check if there is any custom program calling MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF or check the user who last changed the planned order on table PLAF.

BR

Caetano

[Former Member]

Hi Caetano,

We have checked the MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF using CODE_SCANNER transaction by giving the package Z* and Y*, but we could not find any result after executing the search.

Observation here is there is no action key assigned to the material master MRP4 view.

But Action control tab is getting updated in firmed planned order with the action "SCHE".

We are still struggling in identifying the exact cause for firmed planned order.

Thanks in advance

[Former Member]

Hi Experts,

It has been observed that whereever firmed planned order is there, Exception messages are updated in MD04 against of that firmed planned order as below

10- Rescheduled in

15 - Rescheduled out

44 - Order Proposals re exploded for the planned orders which are getting firmed.

We would like to whether and how those exception messages are casuing firming the Planned orders.

Can you please guide us how come the the firming taking place for the Planned orders.

System is firming for the planned orders where basic basic dates are falling after 4 or 5 days from today., after that we could observe normal Planned orders without firming.

Please help us, thanks in advance.

[Caetano]

Hello

The planned order is not firmed by the exeption message. What happens is exactly the opposite, the exception message is triggered because the planned order is firmed.

I still think that the planned order is firmed because of the action control. Somehow, function module MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF is called and the action control is executed, scheduling and firming the order.

If you did not find anything with transaction CODE_SCANNER, maybe it's an RFC or something else running the planned order scheduling. Maybe it's APO or another external scheduling system.

At last, did you check the user who changed the planned order on table PLAF, as already suggested? He must know which changes were carried out.

Best regards

Caetano Almeida

[former_member184574]

Hi,

Check for whether any data is maintained in Planning time fence field in material master in MRP1 view for the materials for which you are getting firmed planned orders.

Thanks

Kumar