PPDS on S/4HANA

[jyotichalikar]

 

PPDS on S/4HANA

Note: I have used the term CIF which indicates Core interface.

PPDS : Production Planning and Detailed Scheduling

Introduction to PPDS (Production Planning and Detailed Scheduling) 

 

Production Planning and Detailed Scheduling(PPDS) on SAP S/4HANA is the product running on SAP S/4HANA.  Production planning and detailed scheduling is a tool in APO(Advanced Planning and Optimization) which takes care of planning and scheduling considering the capacities of various resources.

 

You can use SAP PPDS on SAP S/4HANA to:

1.Create planned orders for in-house production for all the requirements.

2.Optimize the result so that the resources are well consumed.

3. Plan with various variants and yet produce the optimized results.

SAP PPDS for S/4HANA 

SAP PPDS for S/4HANA  allows the user to use PPDS in a more simplified way where he doesn't have to worry much about CIF.

Let’s have a look on what is the advanced feature in material master for S/4HANA with PPDS.

In the transaction MM01, there is a new view “Advanced planning” which would tell whether the material should be considered for planning immediately in PPDS.

It includes the data like planning procedure, horizon, plan explosion etc…

Similar way, work center also has a check box for ‘Advanced Planning’.

S/4HANA has made it simple for the master data CIF . PPDS for S/4HANA still uses only one system but the CIF of data to PPDS is much easier.

The user has the liberty to create the product in ERP completely and then CIF it to PPDS, ‘completely’ I mean all the details like planning procedure, plan explosion, lot size etc…

I use the term PPDS interchangeably with APO as for S/4HANA , PPDS means APO.

Pre-requisite 

 

Set the Advanced planning and Scheduling active.

This is done in SPRO.

Master data changes 

The material master in ERP system has one more additional view as said which is ‘Advanced Planning’ as shown below.

 



 

The ‘Advanced Planning’ view in the material has a checkbox ‘Advanced Planning’ , PPDS details like plan explosion, planning procedure, Demand details, Lot size details , GR /GI processing times, and Shelf life times.

All these details can be taken from ERP system and planned in PPDS.

The flag for ‘Advanced planning’ indicates that the material should be transferred to APO system for PPDS planning and this will be handled by the system itself. No additional effort to CIF the data. It means that there is no need to create an integration model for the material.

The screen below shows the Advanced Planning view in detail.

 



Along with the material, work centers are another set of master data which the PPDS would be using.

Work centers are the actual resources using which the production takes place in the shop floor.

There is a check box for ‘Advanced Planning’ in the Basic data tab of the work center in transaction CR01.

The flag for this check box indicates that the work center is immediately available for planning in SAP PPDS. Again, integration model need not be created for work centers.

The below screenshot shows the 'Advanced Planning' checkbox for a work center.



 

So, overall when you have your plants ready in PPDS system, you can create materials and work centers which would immediately be available in PPDS for planning.

CIF - PDS

Production data structure or PDS is the blue print of the material with all the details like BOM (Bill of Material), routing/recipe in APO. PDS is generated in the APO system using the production version of the material. Production version in turn has the details of BOM and Routing/recipe.

Now, the Production Data Structure needs to be integrated to APO system. This is not done in the traditional way i.e., using the transaction CFM1, rather we use the transaction /CURTOADV_CREATE.

The screenshot below shows /CURTOADV_CREATE screen.

 



 

Overall the introduction of PPDS on S/4HANA  would allow the user to modify, rebuild the master data structure and integrate it with the PPDS system easily with very minute changes.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards,

Jyoti

 

 

[andy_yeri]

Good beginning.

• Important to mention that the S4-PPDS CIF set up is also simplified significantly.
• Plant/Location is the ONLY master data object that needs an Integration model, unless you are using Block Planning
• Also, you now have to access SM30 to maintain a table that distinguishes a Plant in S4 to be a MFG or a DC. That config node in the ECC >> DRP side, is now gone.
• Some key Heuristics like SNP2PPDS have been taken away.

An OPEN question for potential S4 1610 Customers, currently using CTP & Block Planning (Mill Industry) is – what is SAP’s proposal on handling CTP for Orders. This, given the fact that PPDS & aATP are now embedded with S4, while functions like CTP & RBATP have been left out of aATP.

Cheers

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Andy,

 

Thanks for adding your valuable inputs.

 

Regards,

Jyoti

[former_member401780]

Note - 2463325 – SPRO | Distribution Resource Planning (DRP) | missing node

[Former Member]

Hi all,

 

any experience in using PPDS on S/4 with APO SNP?

since we do need proper CIF anycase it seems PPDS on APO would be preferble?

regards,

Arjen

[Former Member]

Hi all, as I'm new to S4 HANA PPDS, for learning the actual process, please share configuration document for PPDS.

THANK YOU

Regards,

Akshay Parge

[former_member218403]

One question, if create a work center use CR03 and ticket "advanced planning“ in basic tab; but there is no resource in /SAPAPO/RES01 - Resource.  how can I do

[former_member218403]

for production order and sale order, such as transaction data, which way we can use to transfer those data to PP/DS( S4 1709)?

[Jomerce]

Check your settings in CFC9 is correct.. Also check if CIF setup is correct as per note: https://launchpad.support.sap.com/#/notes/2382787

[Jomerce]

Check section "Activation of Orders and Batches" in Note: https://launchpad.support.sap.com/#/notes/2382787

[Former Member]

Thanks Jyoti.

I have few queries, can you please share your inputs.

1. PP/DS functionality is only available on SAP S/4HANA or it is still also a part of IBP?


2. We still need to CIF the location / PDS / and some other master data in PP/DS to be able to execute it. If you list the master data that needs to be transferred to S/4HANA.

Regards

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Akilahmed,

 

Thank you for reading my blog.

 

Here are my answers to your queries.

1. PP/DS functionality is only available on SAP S/4HANA or it is still also a part of IBP?

Ans : PP/DS functionality is only available on SAP S/4HANA and not part of IBP.

 

2. We still need to CIF the location / PDS / and some other master data in PP/DS to be able to execute it. If you list the master data that needs to be transferred to S/4HANA.

Ans :  Yes, the master data like location /PDS still needs to be ciffed . The master data depends on the scenario which you are working on. If it is a CDP scenario, then you would require class and characteristics and this would also require to be ciffed.

 

Regards,

Jyoti

[former_member512550]

Hi,

Old stocks and transaction data like planned orders are not updating in product view /n/sapapo/rrp3 when comparing to MD04 transaction in S4HANA embedded PPDS

We run the /sapapo/CCR transaction and still data is not moving to product view /sapapo/rrp3

Do the needful and advance thanks.

Regards,

Mahender

[former_member512550]

Hi ,

We are migrating to S4 HANA with embedded PPDS. Presently client is already using APO BOX with DP,SNP,SNC and PPDS. We need to migrate to S4HANA with EMBEDDED PPDS and as well as APO will be used for DP , SNP and SNC.

Please let us know what will the situation of existing integration model structure and how systems will call between S4 PPDS to SAPAPO , S4HANA to SAP APO and S4HANA to Embedded S4 PPDS.

Please advise and help.

Thanks,

Mahender

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Mahendar,

 

Check the queues, if the order is stuck in the queue then even reconciliation wouldn't help.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Jyoti

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Mahendar,

 

First of all congratulations on your upgrade to S4Hana .

 

You would need an additional integration model for S4H system. The calling from S4 PPDS to APO and others would be similar to the calling of ERP to APO.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Jyoti

[former_member512550]

Hi Jyothi,

Thanks for your quick response. I cleared the queues and Planned orders orders are updated in /n/sapapo/rrp3 . We need production orders and manual reservations need to be updated.

Do the needful and advance thanks.

Regards,

Mahender

[former_member512550]

Thanks Jyothi, We need your more help for smooth S4 Migration .

Regards,

Mahender

[former_member512550]

Hi Jyothi,

We are unable to activate integration models in S4 HANA embedded PPDS and getting load channel issue .

Please do the needful.

Thanks,

Mahender

[former_member512550]

Hi Jyothi,

Do we can mass update the material master in S4 Embedded  PPDS to check advance planning check box in Material master. We are  using APO box as well. Getting PP planning procedure issue when we are trying with MM17 transaction.

Do the needful and advance thanks.

Regards,

Mahender

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Mahendar,

 

I do not think we can mass update the advanced planning check box. You can update the PP planning procedure in Advanced Planning tab of mm01.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Jyoti

[former_member512550]

Hi Jyothi,

We need to mass update model assignment in product master embedded S4 PPDS.

There is no model in existing APO system Product master and this is new in S4 PPDS.

We are migrating to S4 HANA and PPDS and having DP SNP and PPDS in existing system.

Do the needful. Thanks.

Mahendar

[former_member588219]

Hi Jyothi,

Nice content…

i have query on PDS Transferring in S/4 HANA 1809.

I am not able to find planning Type  in the screen can u help me on this.

Regards,

Maruthi Akuthota 

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Mahender,

 

Can you please elaborate? Do you mean the planning type as the type of PDS to be ciffed?

 

Regards,

Jyoti

[former_member512550]

Hi Jyothi,

Thanks for the reply.

We need to assign model for each product and it is looking mandatory in S4 PPDS in /sapapo/mat1.

We are able to assign model for single product buy we have one lack materials to assign model.

Is there any report to mass update the model.

Regards,

Mahendar

Mahendar.

 

[former_member588219]

Hello Jyoti,

Yes!!! its a Type of PDS like wise Detailed Planning(P/S), Rate based Planning and Rough Cut Planning(These options i am not getting at CURTOADV_CREATE)

Here I checked PDS_Maint. PDS is Available. i am getting above Options as well.

When i Do CURTOADV_CREATE for Material getting message like No transfer-relevant data found

Regards,

Maruthi Akuthota

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Maruthi,

 

Unfortunately we do not have the options for PDS types in S4H.

 

For the issue 'No transfer-relevant data found' , kindly check your settings, please uncheck 'Transfer deletion flag' and change  'change transfer  ' to 'Absolute transfer'.

 

Hope it helps.

 

Thanks,

Jyoti

[former_member588219]

Dear Jyoti,

Thank you for reply..!!!

Its working now... Still i am missing Operations and Activities in PDS, Anyway i can resolve them

Regards,

Maruthi Akuthota

[sandeep_sivaraman]

Dear Friends,

 

I will need your help to understand if the PPDS functionality is available as an add-on for SAP business suite on Hana. I am aware it is embedded in the S4 core but trying to understand if the solution is available as an add on for ECC on Hana database. All your help is much appreciated!

 

Thanks Much!

Sandeep

[jyotichalikar]

Hi Sandeep,

 

Yes, PPDS is available on S4H.

 

Regards,

Jyoti

[sandeep_sivaraman]

Hi Jyoti,

 

Thanks for the reply but the question was specific to ECC Suite on Hana DB and not the S4 Hana system.

 

Thanks,

Sandeep

[former_member492712]

How can I emulate in S4 HANA Advanced Planning (PPDS) the older planning strategy 11 - Gross requirement planning at MRP 3 view in Material master from former SAP ECC?

Now since there is no Integration Model for storage locations stocks needed, it seems unattended.

[highlander19]

Planning Strategy 11 means that you only produce against Independent Requirements and reduce those with quantities produced (GR). I see possibly an option for that purpose in Advanced Planning:

Set Planning Strategy 10, publish the IndReqs in ECC and filter out other demand elements than IndReqs as well as stock in the Integrations Models for Advanced Planning

In general this strategy was never supported in PPDS but it can make sense when you want to avoid the stupid MRP netting mechanism and control your inventory curve through the demand plan instead

 

[former_member464519]

Hi Jyoti , many thanks for the detailed explanation . could you kindly provide us an example in S4 system using PP/DS in S4 and diff for the same material in ECC ? i am very much confused regarding the basic understanding of PPDS in S4 system

[dhiraj_talukdar2]

Hi Jyoti,

Nice article and thank you. Hope you are doing well. I have a very basic question. When we update days in past and future in CFC9, we need to manually uncheck and recheck the "Advanced planning" field to have this changed in APO . In ECC , we could deactivate and reactivate the integration models to do a bulk change. Is there any other options in S4 other than unchecking and rechecking each workcenter one by one ?

Regards,

Dhiraj