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This was a repeat of a very popular ASUG Annual Conference session. Thanks to juergen.butsmann for presenting and ingo.hilgefort who set this up as our ASUG/SAP point of contact.
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September 4 BI: SAP BW/4HANA Overview and Roadmap
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September 10 BI: SAP Analytics Cloud for SAP BusinessObjects Enterprise customers - Roadmap Update
September 11 - BI: SAP BW/4HANA Conversion
Source: SAP
What want to achieve
Make the right decision
Source: SAP
Big agenda
Landscape, not avoid intelligent enterprise
Source: SAP
S/4HANA, the core of everything, with integration
What makes intelligent? Capabilities, machine learning, data management
Connect operational data with experience data
Source: SAP
What do to enhance capabilities, lower TCO, unique capabilities
Extract values of S/4HANA, view operational reports, hand it to an EDW or BI layer to bring together
Predefined content, structures, BW/4HANA to consolidate, harmonized platform, comprehensive view of enterprise
Openness
"Reduce your Data Warehouse TCO with the S/4HANA and BW/4HANA combination"
Source: SAP
Embedding analytics in every single process where appropriate in S/4HANA
Operational reporting as well as visualization, take advantage of S/4HANA
Source: SAP
Avoid aggregation without duplicating data, go to the source of the data
Intuitive user experience, simplification of user experience
Embed analytics in processes, transactions
Intelligent ERP - next level - machine learning, simulation, RPA, etc.
Source: SAP
One finance table, do not need to collect the data from multiple tables, from the top vie
KPI's - in a process, see relevant KPI's to see if need to act
Integrated technologies
Source: SAP
Rely on data in HANA database, on top, have virtual data models, core data services, code in application server, translated to native SQL
Interpretation takes place inside of system
Exchange data using OData or transient analytic queries
ABAP Core Data Services can be used to extract values to BW/4HANA
Source: SAP
Key users for Fiori tools
End users at the top (in Fiori)
Demo
Source: SAP
A gap between what customers are used to working with and what they have
Source: SAP
Source: SAP
Contextual exchange with S/4HANA, augmented services for AI, smart creation of reports, intelligence in process of creating reports
Source: SAP
Value proposition of additional system
Source: SAP
Enrich data from other areas (Digital Boardroom)
Source: SAP
Source: SAP
S/4HANA is not an EDW
BW/4HANA is an enterprise data warehouse
Source: SAP
Complete picture
Collect data in Data Hub, facilitating exchange of data
Source: SAP
Guiding principles of BW/4HANA
Source: SAP
High level architecture
Source: SAP
Live access via reverse proxy
Source: SAP
Integration with SAP Analytics Cloud story
Source: SAP
Inside of Fiori, drill down
Labs preview - fully integrated, launch report elements of SAC with contextual linkage
Source: SAP
Rough guidance
Demo:
Source: SAP
SAC allows cross system view of the data
Source: SAP
SAP Data Warehouse Cloud is the cloud offering, not the success of BW/4HANA
Statement of direction for Data Warehouse
Replay link is here
Questions answered by Juergen after the webcast:
Q: What are the performance limitations of SAC while reading live data from S/4HANA ?
I am not aware of such parameters (would hope my colleagues from SAC could answer here). Also they are very much dependent of the technical architecture / setup of the system landscape…
Q: Are the BW logistic cockpit extractors already replaced with CDS views for use with BW/4HANA?
Not yet fully, this is on the compatibility list and still in process.
Q: What is the positioning of SAP Analytics Hub vs. Fiori Launchpad in relation to S4HANA Embedded Analytics?
Both can be used for reports on SAP S/4HANA Data. But SAP Fiori Launchpad is the standard front end for all SAP S/4HANA (and therefore the natural FE for all integrated apps as well) and the SAP Analytics Hub is the central interface for all analytics related Apps (independent of the data source).
Q: can we use ABAP CDS Views for ERP on HANA(SAP NWVersion 7.50)?
Technically yes but there is no content.
Q: "Is there a specific embedded analytics content for SAC? And for what version of S4HANA is it available?"
All versions, it is part of SAP Avtivate (https://rapid.sap.com/bp/BP_S4H_ANA )
Q: We are using Native HANA on current ECC landscape. How is it going to impact us in terms of current SAC and Modeling when we move to S/4 HANA Migration project.
You probably have to redo a lot of the data models and then adapt all of the reports accordingly. This is due to the many data model changes we have done in SAP S/4HANA. The other thing is, what is it you would rather do inside SAP S/4HANA rather than with a separate report if you can? Would the reports look the same given the data changes and modeling capabilities (and performance implications)?
Join us at SAP TechEd Going to SAP TechEd 2019 Las Vegas, and looking for SAP Analytics Cloud & Analytics Designer Enablem...
Join us for more upcoming webcasts:
August 14 BI: SAP Data Warehouse Cloud Overview and Road Map
August 27 BI: SAP Analytics Cloud – Preparing your data
September 3 BI: Discover SAP BusinessObjects BI4.3
September 4 BI: SAP BW/4HANA Overview and Roadmap
September 5 BI: SAP Analytics Cloud - Data Connectivity, including Road Map
September 10 BI: SAP Analytics Cloud for SAP BusinessObjects Enterprise customers - Roadmap Update
September 11 - BI: SAP BW/4HANA Conversion
Source: SAP
What want to achieve
Make the right decision
Source: SAP
Big agenda
Landscape, not avoid intelligent enterprise
Source: SAP
S/4HANA, the core of everything, with integration
What makes intelligent? Capabilities, machine learning, data management
Connect operational data with experience data
Source: SAP
What do to enhance capabilities, lower TCO, unique capabilities
Extract values of S/4HANA, view operational reports, hand it to an EDW or BI layer to bring together
Predefined content, structures, BW/4HANA to consolidate, harmonized platform, comprehensive view of enterprise
Openness
"Reduce your Data Warehouse TCO with the S/4HANA and BW/4HANA combination"
Source: SAP
Embedding analytics in every single process where appropriate in S/4HANA
Operational reporting as well as visualization, take advantage of S/4HANA
Source: SAP
Avoid aggregation without duplicating data, go to the source of the data
Intuitive user experience, simplification of user experience
Embed analytics in processes, transactions
Intelligent ERP - next level - machine learning, simulation, RPA, etc.
Source: SAP
One finance table, do not need to collect the data from multiple tables, from the top vie
KPI's - in a process, see relevant KPI's to see if need to act
Integrated technologies
Source: SAP
Rely on data in HANA database, on top, have virtual data models, core data services, code in application server, translated to native SQL
Interpretation takes place inside of system
Exchange data using OData or transient analytic queries
ABAP Core Data Services can be used to extract values to BW/4HANA
Source: SAP
Key users for Fiori tools
End users at the top (in Fiori)
Demo
Do you still need an additional visualization tool? An EDW? Why SAP Analytics Cloud? Why SAP BW/4HANA?
Source: SAP
A gap between what customers are used to working with and what they have
Source: SAP
Source: SAP
Contextual exchange with S/4HANA, augmented services for AI, smart creation of reports, intelligence in process of creating reports
Source: SAP
Value proposition of additional system
Source: SAP
Enrich data from other areas (Digital Boardroom)
Source: SAP
Source: SAP
S/4HANA is not an EDW
BW/4HANA is an enterprise data warehouse
Source: SAP
Complete picture
Collect data in Data Hub, facilitating exchange of data
Source: SAP
Guiding principles of BW/4HANA
Source: SAP
High level architecture
Source: SAP
Live access via reverse proxy
Source: SAP
Integration with SAP Analytics Cloud story
Source: SAP
Inside of Fiori, drill down
Labs preview - fully integrated, launch report elements of SAC with contextual linkage
Source: SAP
Rough guidance
Demo:
Source: SAP
SAC allows cross system view of the data
Source: SAP
SAP Data Warehouse Cloud is the cloud offering, not the success of BW/4HANA
Statement of direction for Data Warehouse
Replay link is here
Timestamps:
- The context: The intelligent ERP, the digital core SAPS/4HANA and the analytical setup - 7:30
- What is embedded analytics in SAP S/4HANA? - 12:00
- Do you still need an additional visualization tool? An EDW? Why SAP Analytics Cloud? Why SAP BW/4HANA? - 29:30
- How do the solutions integrate? - 38:30
- What to consider on your route to Analytics with SAP S/4HANA? - 46:00
- Q+A - 55:00
Question & Answer
| Question | Response |
| According to your experience, who should be owning development of embedded analytics, BI development experience teams or ERP development teams?. Thanks | It depends on the tool used; some are owned by the business while others (Core Data Services) would be owned by IT. |
| this is clear CDS is IT owned but there are IT development centers with diffierent focus of expertice, ERP (Abap) development teams and BI (BW, SAC, IP, etc.), who should be in charge of Analytical CDS creation in such case?, Thansk and BR | CDS creation is owned by developers |
| What learnings/certifications can we take to give us a holistic understanding and the applications for SAP S/4HANA? | Please check the SAP Learning Journeys for S/4HANA at https://help.sap.com/doc/221f8f84afef43d29ad37ef2af0c4adf/HP_2.0/en-US/0d7dd0dc8f464586a187b9b6c27c6... - includes certifications, etc. |
| if we have S/4HANA embedded analytics and if we are able to do analytical reporting on top of data in S/4HANA, do we need a separate SAP BW/BI system for Analytics? | Depends on your requirements - you may need BW to combine holistic data. I encourage you to check out the upcoming data warehouse webinars at https://discuss.asug.com/docs/DOC-40413 |
| Is there a demo/test environment we can use to learn more about the capabilities of SAP 4/SHANA? (Can combine with my previous question) | Free trial for the cloud is at https://www.sap.com/products/s4hana-erp.html - on premise go to cal.sap.com |
| Can you put in the demo URL again? It's not in the slides attached with this webinar | https://www.sap.com/cmp/oth/crm-s4hana/s4hana-cloud-erp-trial.html |
| Thanks! Can you also put in the logon details? | If you register for the S/4HANA trial, you get your own credentials sent to you... |
| Is BW4 Hana needed if I use SAP Analytics Cloud? | Yes, this is possible |
| Is there a webinar or resources related to best migration approach for moving from ECC to S/4HANA or BW to BWonHANA/BW4HANA ? | We have a webinar coming up on moving to BW/4HANA https://discuss.asug.com/docs/DOC-40413 - for best migration approach, SAP Support has webinars. |
| But is BW4hana necessary or is Analytics Cloud enough to cover all problems? | it depends on your business requirements and your EDW business requirements |
| looking at slide 12 - is the BW/4HANA mandatory for a proper use of SAP Analytics Cloud ? | no - SAC works with multiple data sources - see the road map at https://www.sap.com/products/roadmaps/finder-all.html#pdf-asset=e4339922-c37c-0010-82c7-eda71af511fa... |
| can we use sap fiori on top of bw4? | that is a question to ask the BW product management team at one of the upcoming webinars https://discuss.asug.com/docs/DOC-40413 |
| is there any plan for SAP to deliver ABAP CDS views based Datasources Business Content for S4H on premise? | There are predefined virtual models already available - please see https://blogs.sap.com/2018/12/05/how-to-find-a-predefined-virtual-data-model-in-s4hana/ |
| how do I find those queries ? | see https://blogs.sap.com/2018/12/05/how-to-find-a-predefined-virtual-data-model-in-s4hana/ - you can try transaction RSRT |
| Can we run S4 Hana with SAP BW 7.5 ? | Yes - see https://blogs.sap.com/2017/01/26/s4-hana-bw-7.5-integration-with-sda-as-data-provisioning/ |
| Is there a plan to have SAC embedded into S/4HANA on premise and not just in S/4HANA Cloud? | developing elements on how build, make linkage, easy - right now cloud only...have components should be available for on-premise - |
| hi, all! how a I make a SABA CDS View visbl for AP Analytics Cloud? | standard interface |
| Are there any scenarios where you recommend to use HANA Calculation Views for operational reporting in S4HANA system? | early question; not able to run same auth concept - some calculations may be enhanced in calc views |
Questions answered by Juergen after the webcast:
Q: What are the performance limitations of SAC while reading live data from S/4HANA ?
I am not aware of such parameters (would hope my colleagues from SAC could answer here). Also they are very much dependent of the technical architecture / setup of the system landscape…
Q: Are the BW logistic cockpit extractors already replaced with CDS views for use with BW/4HANA?
Not yet fully, this is on the compatibility list and still in process.
Q: What is the positioning of SAP Analytics Hub vs. Fiori Launchpad in relation to S4HANA Embedded Analytics?
Both can be used for reports on SAP S/4HANA Data. But SAP Fiori Launchpad is the standard front end for all SAP S/4HANA (and therefore the natural FE for all integrated apps as well) and the SAP Analytics Hub is the central interface for all analytics related Apps (independent of the data source).
Q: can we use ABAP CDS Views for ERP on HANA(SAP NWVersion 7.50)?
Technically yes but there is no content.
Q: "Is there a specific embedded analytics content for SAC? And for what version of S4HANA is it available?"
All versions, it is part of SAP Avtivate (https://rapid.sap.com/bp/BP_S4H_ANA )
Q: We are using Native HANA on current ECC landscape. How is it going to impact us in terms of current SAC and Modeling when we move to S/4 HANA Migration project.
You probably have to redo a lot of the data models and then adapt all of the reports accordingly. This is due to the many data model changes we have done in SAP S/4HANA. The other thing is, what is it you would rather do inside SAP S/4HANA rather than with a separate report if you can? Would the reports look the same given the data changes and modeling capabilities (and performance implications)?
