Enterprise Resource Planning Blogs by Members
Gain new perspectives and knowledge about enterprise resource planning in blog posts from community members. Share your own comments and ERP insights today!
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
gangadhar96
Explorer
33,623
In this blog post we will discuss the concept of Attributed Profitability Segment and learn how this is applied in Internal Order settlement to CO-PA.

Concept:


For income statement items without a true account assignment to a profitability segment (for example, items assigned to an order, WBS element, or sales order item), an attributed profitability segment can be determined when the journal entry is created.

The technical basis for Simplified Profitability (new term coined in S/4 HANA1809) Analysis is account-based profitability analysis. The profitability characteristics are determined through the operating concern and can be refined by the tools of profitability analysis. When the operating concern is generated, all characteristics not yet available, including customer-specific characteristics, are appended to the journal entry and filled during posting.

Activation of this functionality is possible for GL line items with the following account assignments













































Object Activation by P&L Acc B/S Acc
Cost Center Cost Center Type Yes No
Internal Order Order Type Yes Yes
Project Project Profile Yes Yes
Sales Order Item Category Yes Yes
Production Order Order Type Yes Yes
Maintenance Order Order Type Yes Yes

This functionality was introduced for all the above objects (except Maintenance Orders) in SAP simple finance itself. This functionality has been extended to Maintenance Orders in S/4 HANA1809.

Attribution logic can be activated for the following GL Accounts:

  • Primary Costs or Revenue.

  • Secondary Costs.

  • Nonoperating Expenses or Income (Type N) in two special cases.

    • WIP Postings from transaction-based revenue recognition.

    • External settlement of Result Analysis data to FI.



  • Balance Sheet Accounts with Cost element type 90. (Except Cost Center).

  • Balance Sheet Accounts without cost element (Except for Cost Center).

    • WIP Postings from transaction-based revenue recognition.

    • External settlement of Result Analysis data to FI.




An attributed profitability segment is determined based on the fixed logic at the time the G/L line item is created. The requirement is to fill as many characteristics in the item as possible to enable maximum drill down analysis capability.

IMG – Master Data- Profitability Analysis - Master Data – Activate Derivation Items without Profitability Segment.



Both P&L Accounts and Balance Sheet Account can be activated for these objects. However, It is important to note that Balance Sheet Accounts cannot be activated for Cost Centers.

SAP developed a logic containing fixed set of rules to derive additional characteristics from the available data in the GL Line item. This logic depends on the account assignment of the item. Detailed logic is available in the sap help documentation.

Example


Let’s see an example of the derivation of attributed profitability segment using internal orders where a settlement rule for PSG exists. It is also possible to derive attributes without settlement rule when certain criteria exists in the Internal order. We are not going to discuss that here.

1. Internal Order with Settlement to PSG.




The only assignment on the Order is profit Center. Segment and Functional Area are assigned in the Profit Center.

Settlement Rule – This Order is settled to PSG.



I have added Material Number and Plant to the PSG in the settlement rule. When the GL Document is posted, System determines certain characteristics from Material Master and updates the PSG. We will see that below.

2. General Leger Document Posting

For the purposes of illustration, I have posted the following document using a P&L as an expense item on the Vendor Invoice.



As you can see, the only account assignment made on this document is Internal Order. Profitability Segment is not assigned while Document creation.



Drill down into the second line (P&L) item of the posted document to see how the PSG data is populated.



As you can see, Plant and Product is copied over to Document from the settlement Rule. In addition, system also derived Division and Material Group from Product.

3. Reports and Table Data


Now let’s look at the ACDOCA Table to verify the data.



The profitability Segment characteristics are not updated in CO-PA Yet. For them to appear in CO-PA, the Internal Order must be settled.

Well, Data is there in the table but is there any standard GL report that can pull these characteristics for analysis? A report like that is desired, especially because these attributes will not be available in CO-PA till the end of the month, when settlement is carried out.  I have investigated various standard GL Line item reports and Fiori Apps / tiles only to find that these are not made available. In all possibility a new Fiori App may need to be developed in order to get this detail in a report. I will update this article, after the investigation is concluded.

4. Settle the Internal Order:


Internal Order is settled - Accounting Document and Controlling Document are posted.



Order Settled with a settlement Cost Element.

5. COPA Line Item Report - KE24


Report shows all the attributes of the derived profitability.


Conclusion


In addition to income statement items which carry a true account assignment to a profitability segment, a profitability segment can be derived for additional income statement items and persisted in the journal entry. This is based on the “best-guess” principle, using the information that is available at that point in time. A refinement of the profitability characteristics at period end is still possible with the closing transactions such as settlement, allocation, and top-down distribution.
8 Comments
RPrabakar
Participant
0 Kudos
Thanks Gangadhar, nice blog.
former_member91924
Participant
0 Kudos
Thanks.  Seems can only work if costng-based is turned off.
0 Kudos
Dear Gangadhar,

 

Thank you for posting this.

I need help for a specific case - for some reason characteristic Profit Center has not been populated in all settlement documents in Profitability for one period. Those are all Settlement of SD Contract (via VA88) to PSG. Due to missing Profit Center also two other characteristics are not derived as their derivation rule is dependent on PC.

The reason most probably is that Profit Center has been deleted for a while from the SD Contract (order) MD in VA42. Now it is again maintained.

Can you please advise for some transaction or program which to use in order to re-determine the PC in all the ettlement documents in COPA. I know only KE4S but it is for Billing documents.

Thanks and regards,

Evgeniya
timohoefli
Associate
Associate
0 Kudos
Dear Gangadhar,

thanks for sharing insights on that topic.

Regarding your statement 'In all possibility a new Fiori App may need to be developed in order to get this detail in a report', there are some new Fiori Apps available e.g. Market Segment Actuals, which should display these values in GL Reporting.

Best Regards,

Timo
a_domurath
Explorer
0 Kudos
Thanks for Sharing, but how can I give respective profitability segment information for a cost center, where I have no settlement rule or somehting comparable available?
marcoseiler
Explorer
0 Kudos

Hello,
first of all, thank you for sharing this valuable contribution. It was very helpful as we are currently testing the function for internal orders.


After activation, we noticed during the test that the derivation or updating of the characteristics works as long as only one recipient is maintained in the settlement rule of the internal order. As soon as the internal order contains two recipients (both referencing the profitability segment) in the settlement rule, automatic updating is no longer possible.

Is there a tip here (customising or development) on how to continue to the derivation?

Thank you for your input
Marco

marcduf001
Explorer
0 Kudos

For @marcoseiler : see OSS note 2439201 point 1 "The logic only considers settlement rules with 100% assignment to profitability segment."

Chendurapureddy
Explorer
0 Kudos

i have one doubt friends ,

based on orders or materials how we can distribute the cost for example i created the two process orders for two materials and now i need to use to distribute some of expenses based on material quantity in keu5 i am useing account based copa can any one give me the solution and i am taking the receiver tracing factor is cost of goods manufactured 

kindly please provide the solution its urgent 

thanx and regards ,

chendu.

Labels in this area