SAP career as a Fresher......

[Former Member]

Now a days most of the companies are only looking for an only SAP experience professional, but what about the Fresher candidate. In this case, how a fresher will get experience without having any working knowledge. Out of 100 companies, there will be very few, thus provide an opportunity for Fresher. What about the rest and why they really don't need Fresher. I really appreciate the blog Written by @Ravi Sankar Venna. I think it's really unparliamentary giving a fake update on the CV but they bound to, otherwise how they will get place. I don't how far my thinking are correct on this, so I shall seek some more good suggestion which may help the fresher to accelerate in SAP field.

[ajaycwa1981]

Hi Bibek da

I would reiterate the lines of Rabindra Nath Tagore here.. "Jodi Tor Daak Shune ..... Ekla Cholo re" (If none wakes up to your call, walk alone)

I know it is difficult these days to get entry as a Fresher.. But there are smaller companies who go for freshers. Trust your skills, may be tone down your expectations a bit in the beginning... For even a lion takes a step back, before leaping on the prey.

Once you have experience and expertise (most importantly), you can fill the backlog in no time.. And above all, I feel, there is a limit to which you can grow in SAP field.. So, if not sooner, one wud reach there later

Br. Ajay M

[Former Member]

It's inspirational and thanks for taking your time out for this valuable suggestion.

[former_member187748]

Hi Bibek,

yes you are right, while i have seen same situation, and that time i thinks that if every one needs

experienced candidate, and no one take a fresher, then how this process continues.

All experienced got selected, then if fresher should not get called for working , how industry will

get a next generation experienced candidate.

But the problem lies totally in our education system, most of the engineering graduates worked

on .net or java, and not having any knowledge of sap world, till he gets graduated.

But anyhow, we have to sustained in this scenarios, so prepare yourself and take any oppurtunity

as a last one, surely you will get succeed one day.

Best of luck.

[Former Member]

Thanks for supportive comment Sanjeev.

[supriyodutta]

Hello,

Bibek It is SCN community. Hence everybody has the rights to express his/her views.

But no doubt that Mr. Ravi has written to much useless things for fake CV.Friends fake CV in all industries. It is not only in IT(specially) SAP.

I am having domain experience of 22+ years( 10 years in Defense,8 years in insurance, 2 years in banking).I have seen it all spaces.

See as per professional ethics concern Fake CV  should be avoided.

Fake/hollow things cannot be hided behind the door for so long.

Don't worry experts-

Thanks & Regards,

Supriyo

[Former Member]

Hello supriyo as you mention

But no doubt that Mr. Ravi has written to much useless things for fake CV.Friends fake CV in all industries. It is not only in IT(specially) SAP.

i would like to know what exactly you know about our mentor

in all your years experience haven't you seen any people who got fired for lying.Please read this

Carriying fake experience in resume can finish your career

I am having domain experience of 22+ years( 10 years in Defense,8 years in insurance, 2 years in banking).I have seen it all spaces.

In this 22 + did you wrote any single blog ? you can at least find out how much time our mentors spent to write one blog even they are busy in working .

Don't worry experts-

we are not worrying for any thing .Before you write at least you should check what you are writing is that what we are giving to our mentors who dedicated to SAP and the community.

poorna

[supriyodutta]

Poorna,

I need not to know about mentor specifically.  I am very much new to SAP. But one thing I know that if a person make a fake CV and lying he/she may have succeeded for 2/3 years or may be 5 years. But some day/somehow/somebody would catch him/her.

His/her career wold be finished off.

"YOU CANNOT MAKE EIFFEL TOWER ON THE BASE OF SAND".

What my feelings is fake CV is in all industries and with all around the globe. It is not only with the SAP industry specifically.

PROFESSIONAL ETHICS DOES NOT PERMIT A FAKE CV

Now I am agree with Bibek that there are lots of other healthy tips/guidelines/blogs can be written instead of writing too much on fake CV.

And I have clearly said that it is a professional community network and everybody has the right to express his/her opinions.

I don't have any intention to hurt anyone. If I have I AM EXTREMELY SORRY.

Thanks & regards,

Supriyo

[Former Member]

Hi as you said

I need not to know about mentor specifically.  I am very much new to SAP.

with out knowing any thing you are writing But no doubt that Mr. Ravi has written to much useless things for fake CV.

again you are saying And I have clearly said that it is a professional community network and everybody has the right to express his/her opinions.

where did you see this rules ..? if you find here  The SCN Rules of Engagement | SCN please tell me.

Dear you made a mistake with out without knowing any thing about our mentor Ravi Sankar Venna.

you can not simply wait age what ever you are saying .Already you did mistake and you said sorry for that at least in the future please do not write these sorts of words.

poorna

[ajaycwa1981]

Hi Supriyo

You have made a mistake in choosing your word, is all I can say.

You can say I dont agree with Ravi's views, thats fine. But you cant label it as useless

If i write some nasty things about you now in this page, and say SCN is open forum and hence i have right to express my views, would you like it?

you need not press the LIKE button for each and everything you read. But, then you dont have a right to personally target someone like this..

I have alerted moderators about your post and choice of words

Br, Ajay M

[supriyodutta]

Mr.

Poorna, What I feel some people should be writer instead of IT PROFESSIONAL.They would have got a Noble prize in Literature.

Best of Luck.

If any other thing is there plz let me know

Or else say byee..

Thanks & regards,

Supriyo

[supriyodutta]

Mr. Ajay,

If you have read all my reply related to Fake CV very much thoroughly you could come to know that IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN TOOOO MUCH ON SAME TOPIC.

Coming back to Mr. Ravi If he is really a SAP expert then instead of writing so much on Fake CV BROAD GUIDANCE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN TO FRESHER( who get demoralized every moment).

And it is really heart breaking that you stick to a point of no return.

I may not be SAP expert but what I feel is this sort of longggggggggggggggg discussion really really discourage the people.

What I feel his his (Mr. Ravi's) previous blog was really really fantastic and fully encouraging instead of FAKE CV BLOG.

Thanks & regards,

Supriyo

[former_member182378]

Bibek,

Now a days most of the companies are only looking for an only SAP experience professional, but what about the Fresher candidate. In this case, how a fresher will get experience without having any working knowledge.

Companies are responsible to their clients, therefore they need people (analysts, consultant) who can surely do the job! The safest bet is to select someone who has done it before!

Companies are not responsible for giving jobs (opportunities) to freshers!

Fresher will get experience by practicing, repeating the theory and solving issues in forums like SCN.

 I think it's really unparliamentary giving a fake update on the CV but they bound to, otherwise how they will get place.

Nobody is bound to do anything, if he/she does not want to!

Faking or not faking is an individuals decision, but faking does not mean success and not faking does not lead to failure.

It is self confidence, hard work, passion to add value to customer (through SAP),  luck and perseverance that shall lead to long term success or....no success!

Best wishes,

TW

[supriyodutta]

Hello,

TW I am 100% agreed with your comments.

But some people don't understand it. I have tried to explain the same thing with all my previous reply.

people had taken wrong meaning out of that.

FAKE CV IS UNETHICAL IN CORPORATE PRACTICES. But you can't stop an individual.It is his/her wish.

And if a person by making fake CV topped and became expert in a particular field then kindly let me know.

It would not be possible.

Excellent comment........

I Love it

Thanks & regards,

Supriyo

[former_member182378]

Supriyo,

I understand that your intention was to put thoughts candidly and directly! It is evident that these come from years of practical experience in work and life.

You have not tried to "criticize" any body...unfortunately some "words" got highlighted and misinterpreted. It happens...nobody's fault!

Misinterpretation happens more often than we think, in SAP -

- client give some requirement, consultant might interpret it differently

- functional explains technical about an enhancement, some thing different is created by technical

- functional certifies correct development after unit testing, but client is surprised...with the enhancement (which does not satisfy the business requirement)

- functional makes a solution that ONLY satisfies certain and not all scenarios

Anyway, keep contributing with honesty and directness, as you have being doing.

Good luck,

TW

[Former Member]

Hii TM,

Its really impressive and fact as well. But as you said

Fresher will get experience by practicing, repeating the theory and solving issues in forums like SCN.

But I think the point of selection will happen based on your work experience in a genuine organization. SCL forum is ok for the discussion and increase your knowledge base, but not for the real time experience. So definitely there will be some other way where the fresher gets an opportunity.

I hope you could understand what I am trying to portray.

Regards

Bibek Das 

[former_member187748]

Hi Bibek,

at some point you are quite right, because if any person will learn and practice through SCN

it will not considered as a real time exposure in industry.

One thing more, if a person or a fresher will get any job in any organisation, and if works on

any project, and through it if he will work at scn then he will learn and gets knowledge.

As  TY  is sujjesting that, you should practice at scn, my concern is that, at scn we get a part of any code lines, is it sufficient to learn and practice.

[Former Member]

Exactly Sanjeev, practically every one gonna see your exposure in the particular field.

[former_member182378]

Bibek,

I understand your point!

But I think the point of selection will happen based on your work experience in a genuine organization. SCL forum is ok for the discussion and increase your knowledge base, but not for the real time experience.

I have been an interviewer for sometime in a MNC. When we recruit freshers or candidates who have less than 2 years of SAP experience, we are looking to see if there concepts are correct, can they communicate in a clear way.

Both these qualities can be improved by working hard and (to some extent) participating in forums.

If you are a fresher, then apply for fresher jobs. Companies wanting to hire freshers know very well that the candidates do not have real time SAP experience.

Exemplify your commitment, mastery over SAP (theoritically) and good communication skills; your domain knowledge. This shall lead to success in interviews!

[Former Member]

You know TM i am really impressed and your answer was like waaooo.Logically it is perfect and thank you so much

Regards

BD

[former_member182378]

BD,

I am TW (not TM...but TM too sounds good)

[Former Member]

i am really sorry TW. It was a typo mistake.

[former_member182997]

Dear Bibek,

I am facing such prob. I am a certified BW professional. But companies dont hire  BW less than atleast 2 or 3 years.  Similar is my question, if no opportunity, what is the opportunity of gaining experience. By studying 14 to 15 hours every day i completed Certification yet not being placed.
But lucky i was some way that i could get a chance to work on contract on a fresher role but  with small experience its difficult now  to find a new one again!!..
But believe me there are tweaks  to find jobs and making into interviews:
I have found out by myself and worked for myself atleast i could manage to get calls that too without faking experience

Regards,
Aparajit

[Former Member]

Hai Aparajit,

Thank you for sharing your live experience and the difficulties you are facing to get place with. I wish TW could give you some valuable suggestion which may help you to prepare yourself in a better way...

Wish you the best of luck and thank you..

BD