Regarding job in sap mm

[Former Member]

Hi all,

my name is sagar and i am new to sap mm as well as sap scn.

I am a civil engineer and having 7 years of exp in construction field but now i want to go for sap and completed my sap mm course from pune institute and now looking for a job. This institute has given me an avg training but not giving any interview calls(as they committed), they provide me fake documents of 2 years of exp with salary slip.

help me that is it helpful to show 2 years of fake exp and can anybody justify that in interview and can anybody work actually if he cleares the interview.

Please help me, what should i do and how can i get actual work exp by study.

sagar

[Former Member]

Very Good Article by Ravi. Must Read

Don't lose your patience. Hit hard and hope for best.

Your knowledge not measured by Papers(like fake documents/experience/salary slip). Knowledge of basic business process required in SAP.

Thanks

Amit

[Former Member]

Sagar Men wrote:

Hi all,
my name is sagar and i am new to sap mm as well as sap scn.
I am a civil engineer and having 7 years of exp in construction field but now i want to go for sap and completed my sap mm course from pune institute and now looking for a job. This institute has given me an avg training but not giving any interview calls(as they committed), they provide me fake documents of 2 years of exp with salary slip.
help me that is it helpful to show 2 years of fake exp and can anybody justify that in interview and can anybody work actually if he cleares the interview.

Please help me, what should i do and how can i get actual work exp by study.


sagar

Let me get this clear - you have obtained fake documents to show your work history but don't understand why you can't get a job?

This right here is what is so fundamentally broken in our wonderful global industry...

Unbelievable.  Can't decide if I'm more annoyed that there are "institutes" so corrupt as to take advantage of people trying to get into SAP, or that individuals hope to obtain a career under false pretences.  Either way it stinks.

[Colleen]

you could go one step further and see that this institute in Pune has actually committed fraud. Faking of payslips?!?! Wow. Just Wow

@Sagar - you might want to think about the sort of assistance and advise you are asking for here. There have been quite a few discussions relating to faking skill sets, etc. Yes it is tough for a inexperienced to get their foot in the door but this type of unethical (again, potentially fraud if faking of payslips and work history is involved) approach is not going to get you far.

Faking of experience will become obvious in job interviews. You will find it difficult to convince the person interviewing you that you really do have that experience (style of questions and the way someone with theory vs practical experience answers a question is a dead give away)

[Matt_Fraser]

If I read Sagar's question correctly, he isn't endorsing the faked experience or payslips... he's complaining about the institute. I understood that he expected the institute to help arrange interviews for him after completing his training (which is perfectly legitimate, many schools in the US do that), but instead they gave him fake documents, and so his question is "huh? Is that really going to help?" Valid question. He is asking for advice on gaining actual work experience.

Cheers,

Matt

[ChrisSolomon]

Whoa!!! I would say I am surprised but this kind of thing happens ALL the time.In some areas of the world, it is just accepted (or a blind eye turned toward it as the saying goes). Some companies simply do not care (or don't want to know) and just want "bodies" to put to work. If the new hire can pull it off, great. If they get caught as a "fake" (or more honestly, just very inexperienced), then they get replaced. And so it continues. I would hazard a guess that it is more companies providing services (ie. consulting/outsourcing) than direct SAP customers (ie. running their business on SAP) that you will see this happening in. It is certainly nothing new and has been talked about here more than 5 handfuls of times (haha) has written/spoke about it a number of times in several of his blogs.

The sad thing is, this eventually impacts the people that are "doing the right thing" and are knowledgeable. Things like crack downs on Visas, or added requirements like "US citizen only", or resumes/CVs from certain parts of the world get much more scrutiny (or sometimes dismissed all together as "too much of a headache" to fact check). That knife cuts both ways.

[ChrisSolomon]

I think you are right, Matt. Sagar wasn't saying it was right. I think he was more shocked too....like "they promised me interviews, but instead they just gave me a fake resume with fake payslips to back it up and left me with that to go get a job". The ol' "bait and switch". If I were Sagar, I would "put them on blast", but I am pretty sure their practices are likely known (ie. he isn't the first "student" through there.).

[joao_sousa2]

This institute has given me an avg training but not giving any interview calls(as they committed), they provide me fake documents of 2 years of exp with salary slip.

Can't you report these people to the authorities? This is fraud.

At least in my country you don't teach SAP in college, and rightly so. it's a piece of software which in a few years may be dead. It's a different world, and here it would be unacceptable (even unthinkable) for someone to ask in a forum if 2 years of fake payslips will help them get a job. It's fraud, it's unethical.