Solved: Please Suggest which module could be best for me

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 02

Hi All,

I have 2+years of experience in core JAVA development,but i am planning to move on as i feel i am not much confident in JAVA Programming.Our company is a product based company which has a product ,including enhancements not technology wise but client wise.Some how i am not getting enough knowledge which will allow me to match market expectations .I want to change my job but have no confidence that i can continue in JAVA.

so i have 2 choices i feel,one is SAP (which does not include much programming) and other is testing.Development to testing is seeming odd i know.

but i have kept it as an option as it does not include programming.On the other hand i feel SAP is best .For SAP i want some body to suggest me which could be the best module that does not involve much coding but at the same time has a better stand in future market.

former_member182997 · ‎2014 Mar 02

Dear Deepika,

Seems like you are in cross roads. But nothing to worry. It happens.
I would really like to appreciate you for being confident to take up a move to jump start your career into SAP. Few points i will enlist for you which may sound helpful to you i hope.
Looking into your experience i have a feeling you don't like the programming stuff anymore and you want to get rid of it yet making a sound career. Yes SAP has those elements to give you a desired path.
If you know SAP has both technical and functional modules or even combination of both called
Techno-Functional modules. Depending on the interest and confidence its needful to take up a good decision.
(FYI: But keep in mind, SAP is built on ABAP codes. Which means ABAP knowledge even basic level is going to help you always)

Following are the points:

1. You belong to technical background aren't you? If yes i believe your interest would rather be in technical side rather than functional side (Finance or Sales etc)
Also you have to be noted that since you will change domain you will be treated as a fresher once again, where you will have to start from the scratch. The path is difficult but not impossible and you have to be ready to face and overcome all these challenges. If it is so Following are the modules which can pave you a good career ahead.

a.) Business Objects - which is a reporting tool tightly integrated with rich module like BI. In this you dont need programming but you have to be thorough with Database concepts , writing SQL queries as the must haves pre requisites to start with BO. It is in great demand and you can have a great career with it.

b.) Business Intelligence (BI): Which is a robust techno functional module. The pre requisites can be basic knowledge of OOP ABAP programming and data warehousing concepts. But trust me
Pre requisites are all pen and paper work, if you have determination you can learn almost anything you want.

c) SAP BASIS: Is more like close to being a networking savvy. it deals with maintenance of server, configuring the servers and many more. It also does need programming knowledge but ABAP will definitely going to help you in many scenarios.

d) SAP Mobility : It is one of the more interesting areas you can browse and check out. This link can be useful to drill down to know more: ATOZ Mobility Module Training - Atoz Soft Technologies, Coimbatore

e.) There is another rich module called SAP HANA, but i think it should not be suggested as HANA is considered to be an advanced level, you may need knowledge of BI and ABAP both as well

Following are the more crucial points:

1. While you change your domain, and start to make a career in SAP don't leave your job and invest everything. because you never know when things will click for you. Refer to the following blogs by the great mentors here in SCN forums.:

2. SAP Certification is not a guarantee that you will get a job or good placement, it may happen or may not, but it will definitely help you a bit to stand out in the crowd but practical hands on experience is what all companies look for which equally makes life tough for the new fresh SAP Aspirants, for that you can take help of local SAP centers or ghost installation or say getting paid server access for practice.

You can check out these blogs :

1,

2.

3. This i thought can be helpful for you so i am referring here:

3. Be patient and have Perseverance. Things will definitely work if you dedicate yourself in making them work.

(Do let know if these info helped you, or if you need more. I would be happy to answer your queries. All the best)

Best Regards,
Aparajit

former_member182997 · ‎2014 Mar 02

Dear Deepika,

Seems like you are in cross roads. But nothing to worry. It happens.
I would really like to appreciate you for being confident to take up a move to jump start your career into SAP. Few points i will enlist for you which may sound helpful to you i hope.
Looking into your experience i have a feeling you don't like the programming stuff anymore and you want to get rid of it yet making a sound career. Yes SAP has those elements to give you a desired path.
If you know SAP has both technical and functional modules or even combination of both called
Techno-Functional modules. Depending on the interest and confidence its needful to take up a good decision.
(FYI: But keep in mind, SAP is built on ABAP codes. Which means ABAP knowledge even basic level is going to help you always)

Following are the points:

1. You belong to technical background aren't you? If yes i believe your interest would rather be in technical side rather than functional side (Finance or Sales etc)
Also you have to be noted that since you will change domain you will be treated as a fresher once again, where you will have to start from the scratch. The path is difficult but not impossible and you have to be ready to face and overcome all these challenges. If it is so Following are the modules which can pave you a good career ahead.

a.) Business Objects - which is a reporting tool tightly integrated with rich module like BI. In this you dont need programming but you have to be thorough with Database concepts , writing SQL queries as the must haves pre requisites to start with BO. It is in great demand and you can have a great career with it.

b.) Business Intelligence (BI): Which is a robust techno functional module. The pre requisites can be basic knowledge of OOP ABAP programming and data warehousing concepts. But trust me
Pre requisites are all pen and paper work, if you have determination you can learn almost anything you want.

c) SAP BASIS: Is more like close to being a networking savvy. it deals with maintenance of server, configuring the servers and many more. It also does need programming knowledge but ABAP will definitely going to help you in many scenarios.

d) SAP Mobility : It is one of the more interesting areas you can browse and check out. This link can be useful to drill down to know more: ATOZ Mobility Module Training - Atoz Soft Technologies, Coimbatore

e.) There is another rich module called SAP HANA, but i think it should not be suggested as HANA is considered to be an advanced level, you may need knowledge of BI and ABAP both as well

Following are the more crucial points:

1. While you change your domain, and start to make a career in SAP don't leave your job and invest everything. because you never know when things will click for you. Refer to the following blogs by the great mentors here in SCN forums.:

2. SAP Certification is not a guarantee that you will get a job or good placement, it may happen or may not, but it will definitely help you a bit to stand out in the crowd but practical hands on experience is what all companies look for which equally makes life tough for the new fresh SAP Aspirants, for that you can take help of local SAP centers or ghost installation or say getting paid server access for practice.

You can check out these blogs :

1,

2.

3. This i thought can be helpful for you so i am referring here:

3. Be patient and have Perseverance. Things will definitely work if you dedicate yourself in making them work.

(Do let know if these info helped you, or if you need more. I would be happy to answer your queries. All the best)

Best Regards,
Aparajit

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 02

Thanks a lot ...Aparajit for your valuable suggestion.It is of great help to me.It has given me a clear picture of various modules.As i have understood ,I think BO or BI should be fine.But I have few more questions running around my mind. Do they have demand in future ?Even after having my current experience in JAVA will i be considered as a fresher in SAP? and Is certification a must for any SAP module?

Thanks

Deepika

former_member182997 · ‎2014 Mar 02

Dear Deepika,

I have mentioned all your answers in my first comment. If you go through once again, you will definitely get them. Yet as you have asked again let me drill down into more detail for you okay?


Do they have demand in  future ?

Ans: Yes and 1000% yes. Be positively sure about this demand factor. You must have some solid reasons to inspire you to get your mind clear right? Okay here are the reasons:

1. BI : The module has so many functionality in itself that BI is applied in different perspective of analysis by almost all the kinds of organisations starting from Manufacturing Giant like Robert Bosh to IT giants like Accenture or Delloite or many unknown both national and international i must mention that. Analytics are so critically important for clients because they need to analyse their business and take important tactical decisions, BI helps them in doing that and this reason makes BI as evergreen module to be in demand as long as you take retirement.

2. BO: Its simply reporting tool as i said earlier. SAP BI has got Business Explorer for reporting, but SAP as i heard is going to discontinue BEx by 2016 and completely take up BO so far as reporting is concerned. Therefore you can understand what males BO more important. Also BO has more features than BEx so from reporting perspective its much in demand and desired and will continue to be in future.


Even after having my current experience in JAVA will i be considered as a fresher in SAP?

Ans: I answered this question as well. You should have read my answer above well. But its okay. The ans in 100% yes again. You know the guys with 6 years or 8 years of domain experience in Production was treated as fresher when he changed his domain into SAP PP, so why not you? But does that really bothers you? I really wonder why.
I think you should not be bothered at all by all these. To make a career which gives you a ever green opportunity with no stopping any further, i think you would really be glad to mark yourself with achievements. Your previous experience will just be counted as Industry Experience.


 Is certification a must for any SAP module?

Ans: See, I am BI Certified Professional and after being SAP certified and being in this industry i can well say its not at all a must have. Of course it adds value to your profile. Just consider a scenario.
You want to purchase a smart phone would you like to go with the trusted brands like Apple or Samsung or Nokia Or would you like to go for unknown Chinese smart phone hand set, I think you have got it what i mean?
You will also find plenty of non certified people working in SAP and who are so efficient in this technology and have paved their path to good positions in the industry by dint of their hard work and commitment. But as today's world is competitive, in SAP market 99.99% CVs are fake. So when it comes to fresher level, companies will surely be interested to trust a SAP Certified individual and consider calling them for interview, but that doesn't mean they don't call the other non certified guys they surely do, but Certification can just bring you that 25% benefit while CV consideration.

I hope you got few answers of your queries. If anything more you want do keep posting okay?
Also if your Original Post you feel is answered you can mark it answered or if you want more expert opinions you can keep it open for sometime

Cheers,
Aparajit

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 02

Thanks again Aparajit for your guidance and reply to my questions. I feel a bit relaxed now and can think of choosing BI .It seems interesting..

Thanks

Deepika

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 02

Hi Aparajit,

What is SAP EP ? How is it different from other modules?Does it include much of programming?

former_member182997 · ‎2014 Mar 03

Hi Deepika,
Goodmorning..
Fresh to give you new answers i guess.. As you have asked:


What is SAP EP ? How is it different from other modules?Does it include much of programming?

Ans: SAP Enterprise Portal is a Platform for development of Web Interfaces and does not need Programming knowledge. It is again tightly integrated with SAP BI providing role based user interfaces. Portal Development Kit is also present in SAP EP and as you have already Java exposure, you will really feel comfortable working in such areas.

a.) I am attaching a link you can go through and will get more insight.

http://sapinsider.wispubs.com/Assets/Articles/2009/August/Create-Web-Applications-No-Programming-Req...

b.) *PDF for SAP EP from SAP. Read it to know more about SAP EP*

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&ved=0CGYQFjAH&url=http%3A%...

c) For your FYI:
I am still wondering how convinced are you on the above answers as you still wanted to know if SAP BI needs programming knowledge. 25% to 35% requirement is a vital importance of SAP ABAP in SAP BI. As i myself trading in the same domain, i can well tell you how SAP ABAP has importance and significance in SAP BI .
There are different types of Projects :
1. Implementatioon which is one at the highest level
2. Support
3. Roll out
4. Upgrade
5. Migration

Each of them have different areas of work and responsibilities. SAP BI Consultant without
SAP ABAP can never be a complete consultant. As dependency on ABAP Consultants always remains. I will consider it as a mere Joke if somebody tells there is no requirement of ABAP in SAP BI/BW.
Check out below discussion as similar as yours

Regards,
Aparajit

Former Member · ‎2015 Sep 22

First Aparajit ,I have gone through your valuable replies ,they all are highly motivated and helpful..

I tell you about myself.

I have knowledge of ERP as I have been working since 2012 on IMMS(Customized erp), more on Purchase module along with report development I have technical background . I am an MCA 2010 pass out with 4.8 years of total IT experience so I have domain knowledge that is why I want to go for SAP MM module . I am looking for the same but you know SAP authorized education partner like Atos and JKT noida fees is very high for 30 days training with certification its too much for me that is why I am looking for any unauthorized institute for training but I want trainer should have industrial exposure or real time trainer but many institute i have visited this last weekend for demo but could not find the satisfactory feedback. So can you suggest me any training institutes or trainer who can provide training with real time scenarios with fees in between 20K to 30K.

I started my carrier in development in 2011. I am 2010 MCA pass out.but in my company I got opportunity to work on customized ERP name IMMS where I have been handling Purchase module(Much Work in this module, Production and Admin and it is kind of work like providing support to the company's employees, so can say I have exposure in purchase module more.Sir i also worked for the ERP database like report development,crystal report.

I have gone through the SAP related articles and videos but bit confuse as well about to selecting the right module for me that will better for my carrier.In future I want to handle project management field so can PS module would be right for me as I wanted to PMP certification as well.

Please guide me which would me best for me SAP MM ,SD or PS with more openings and better opportunities and now for current scenario I want to go for Functional module but after getting good experience I want be as techno functional consultant.

Thanks in advance.I need your valuable advice.

Regards,

Sourabh Dixit

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 02

Hi deepika as you said


which could be the best module that does not involve much coding but at the same time has a better stand in future market.

Do your home work try to find out how many modules in sap its always difficult to advice with out clear idea from your side . Do a little bit of research on your own before you choose sap module what exactly is your interest?

please read this blogs

poorna

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 02

Poorna,

I have gone through the links suggested by you.I do not want a choose a module which has a hard core programming.Somehow i came to conclusion to choose between BO or BI ,but not yet decided.

What is the level of programming required for a ABAP developer ?Does BI requires ABAP too,I came to know this and wanted to know more on it.How would ABAP+BI module be for a person who is aware of core JAVA?

former_member183424 · ‎2014 Mar 03

Hi Deepika,

If you are not interested in technical, then you can go with functional...

As you have short listed two modules, BI and BO.

I heard, there are no need much knowledge about ABAP to learn BI or BO..

You can go with one of these module...

But the BI and BO module is little integrated module..

I suggest, you can learn these two module...

But choose one module as a base module and then another module will be your integrated module..

Best of luck for your career...

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 03

Thanks Dev Patra for your suggestion.Can you please elaborate on below as you mentioned in your response to my post.

But choose one module as a base module and then another module will be your integrated module..

Thanks

Deepika

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 03

Deepika as you said


Does BI requires ABAP too

Learning sap BI i a good option which does not require much programming skills .

Please read this blog to find more about sap BI

you can also enroll open sap here openSAP


Somehow i came to conclusion to choose between BO or BI ,but not yet decided.

Its always difficult to advice which course you want to learn .Wait for our expert suggestions .

poorna

former_member183424 · ‎2014 Mar 03

SAP has many integrated module, like as MM module integrated with PP/WM/QM/SD/FI and each another..

I have suggested to choose one module as base module..

Suppose you are much interested in MM module, then first learn about MM module at least for 3 years..

Then go for the other module..

I mean your designation will be SAP MM Consultant... And your knowledge about other module will be WM/PP/SD etc...

Don't try for the designation for SAP MM/QM Consultant at the learning point...

former_member187748 · ‎2014 Mar 03

Hi Deepika,

the first thing is that, if you wants to enter in sap field , please understands that, there are to many

modules in sap which you can opt for your career.

But before going towards sap fields , you have to understand one thing that, despite of your

2 yrs. experience in java, you will only considered as a fresher.

But can you please tell us about your academics backgrounds, if you have done engineering

(i have assumed), then you can also go for basis module in sap, and if you have worked on

java (me too a java specialist during my engineering academics), then i don't think you will

get much more problems in java (basic features), and apart from the syntax and semantics

used in abap you will have an advantage of programming.

Please remember one thing whenever you starts new thing, it obvious become a tough one,

but once you will be aquinted with abap i don't think you will get any problem at all,

and one more advantage is that, there is a forum in scn for abapers where you can ask any problem you faced.

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 03

Ya Sanjeev your assumption is right ,I am a B.TECH in Information Technology with a 2+years of exp in JAVA product development.I know they are too many modules in SAP,and that's the reason i am taking the suggestions from SCN to know what would best suit me.

SAP basis ,as i have understood is about installing,configuring ,migrating,moving patches ...something like release team is it ?correct me if i am wrong.

Former Member · ‎2014 Mar 03

Hi,

If your interested to learn BI/BO.......

BI is Busineess Warehouse with reporting

BO is only reporting tool.

So you better to learn BI/BW then learn BO....It will be good for getting jobs quickly.

Regards,

Chandrakanth

Former Member · ‎2015 May 17

I have 4+years of experience in Siebel Administration,but i am planning to switch SAP.Could you please suggest which module will suits of me with out coding.

former_member186576 · ‎2015 May 18

Abi,

If you have a question then Start a new disscussion on .

Regards,

Sam

Former Member · ‎2015 Oct 06

Hi Deepika,

I read all your posts. But can you please let me know whether you changed your domain to SAP?? If so can you please help me in getting into SAP?? I have 11 months experience in JAVA. Now even I want to change my domain to SAP.

Thanks,

Manu