Question Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much in Questions about SAP Websites

New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 15 May 2017 15:35:18 GMT

Looks like a new top menu got implemented recently with the expanded options and some odd yellow "side bar". While I appreciate the effort, is there any way not to flash it every time the mouse cursor simply happens to be dragged across the menu area? Maybe it's just me but it feels like it's going to give me a seizure. Every time I move the mouse in the menu vicinity (for example, to use the bookmark toolbar in the browser), the full screen white-yellow-black flashes of the drop-down menus appear and it's rather unpleasant visual stimuli.

Isn't there a way to add a short delay to make sure the menu appears when it's rather consciously navigated to vs. just passing by the respective screen area?

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

former_member186338 — Mon, 15 May 2017 16:44:31 GMT

May be not delay but mouse click?

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

jcgood25 — Mon, 15 May 2017 16:49:56 GMT

Using IE 11, I am seeing the menu words like 'Support' or 'Community' dropping down when they become black text on the white tab. Haven't tried Chrome today, but I get your point about the desire to have more of a delay effect, or perhaps even force the user to click on the word? We have to do this clicking for both the magnifying glass and our avatar (assuming we are logged in).

Not sure what the UX best practice would be for this sort of thing - nike.com works similar, but coke.com has many menu layer approaches.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 15 May 2017 17:40:28 GMT

Mouse click would work too. Anything to stop this mad flashing.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Mon, 15 May 2017 17:45:50 GMT

Many websites have these kinds of menus but even using the same Nike example - the menu (1) does not take my whole laptop screen; (2) is black-and-white. Now on SCN if I just touch Products the huge yellow lightning strike across the whole screen.

I'm sure there are some general web UI design guidelines on this somewhere.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

jerryjanda — Mon, 15 May 2017 21:44:27 GMT

Tried to give everyone some warning about this:

https://blogs.sap.com/2017/05/11/get-ready-for-the-mega-menu/. I knew it would be a bit of a startling change...

Jamie has been responding to comments about the menu in that post, Jelena. I can bring this idea to her, as she's probably the best qualified to carry it forward.

--Jerry

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Former Member — Mon, 15 May 2017 21:55:25 GMT

Thanks Jelena, I'll share your comments with the UX team.

Best,

Jamie

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

former_member186338 — Tue, 16 May 2017 10:11:10 GMT

My standard Community browsing behavior:

I have constantly opened 7 tabs related to SAP in FireFox browser:

1. Notifications

2. Q&A: SAP BusinessObjects Planning and Consolidation, version for SAP NetWeaver

3. Q&A: EPM Add-In for Excel

4. Q&A: Using SAP.com

5. Coffee Corner

6. BPC help

7. EPM help

I am switching between the mentioned tabs and the menu is very annoying.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Tue, 16 May 2017 15:54:30 GMT

Same here. I always have multiple tabs going on. There is no other navigation anyway. I can see a question list for a specific tag and from there I can only open the questions one by one. Naturally, I do right-click -> new tab. And that's exactly where the menu gets in the way a lot.

Not really objecting to the menu's content (that's the whole other story) but the way it unrolls unnecessarily, combined with its size, makes using SCN less enjoyable.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Tue, 16 May 2017 15:55:48 GMT

No one announced the blog in CC, so I did not see it. 🙂 Not sure it would've been any better though even if I've seen this coming.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Former Member — Tue, 16 May 2017 16:13:06 GMT

This effect used to annoy me a little before. It is worse now. Click on the "community" tab in my browser, move the mouse down to click on some content, and a huge (uuuge) menu pops up. If the content you are after is in the top half the page it is suddenly hidden and you have to move the mouse way out of the way to get rid of the menu. Even if not, the pop-up is seriously distracting.

It reminds me a little of the "this report contains flashing images" disclaimer on TV news reports these days.

No offence meant to anyone involved, but who tested this and thought it was a good idea?

A short delay would make an enormous difference.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

VolkerBarth — Tue, 16 May 2017 16:16:54 GMT

I'm somewhat surprised, Jelena - how come you previously blamed the greyness of the page contents and don't love the new flashy design?

----

Volker Ducking and Running

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

VeselinaPeykova — Tue, 16 May 2017 16:19:13 GMT

I have constantly opened 7 tabs related to SAP in FireFox browser

And you are not using CTRL+PgUp / CTRL+PgDn , then F5 or, better CTRL+R?

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

former_member186338 — Tue, 16 May 2017 16:24:16 GMT

I prefer to use keyboard only when I am typing an answer 🙂

I use some mouse gestures (for example to refresh page) but I select tabs to look at with a mouse click on tab...

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Tue, 16 May 2017 19:03:55 GMT

Could be our terrible Internet access after some corporate WAN realignments but this is the worse so far I've seen on SCN:

Cannot see Notifications at all, just the same "menu list" except on a white background. Help! %-[

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Tue, 16 May 2017 19:06:08 GMT

Haha. 🙂 I guess yellow band livens up the "top menu of death" slightly but now it just sucks in a different way.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Tue, 16 May 2017 19:09:12 GMT

"who tested this and thought it was a good idea?"

The same team that brought us the initial design and subsequent "improvements", duh.

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

VeselinaPeykova — Tue, 16 May 2017 19:59:51 GMT

Today I noticed, that in my not officially supported (here) browser in the pages with a country selector I need to click on the menu to display it.

If only I could get the same behavior for all other pages....

*** I am not requesting this to be 'fixed' ***

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Peter_Inotai — Wed, 24 May 2017 05:57:51 GMT

Just noticed that https://support.sap.com/ seems to work that way.

It's strange that it's not consistent through all the new sap.com sites 😞

Re: New top menu flashes a bit too much

Steffi_Warnecke — Wed, 24 May 2017 08:06:40 GMT

Well, the design of the menu is different, too. So... 2DX?