Question Re: Please, Explain the same. in Questions about SAP Websites

Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:19:51 GMT

Hello,

SDN Forums is the only place I know where 3 people out of 4 are always speaking about "the same".

"Do the needful for the same", "Help for the same", etc...

I have never heard people talking about "the same" in each sentence when traveling in Great Britain or the USA.

Could any one explain what this really mean ?

Is this an expression or a literal translation from an other language ?

Greetings,

Curious Olivier

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:43:57 GMT

I think it is an holistic hypothesis which places the rest of the post into a context.

I am sure there are plenty of corollaries, so I tried the most obvious one thanks to Amir having noticed it:

Let see...

Julius

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:27:44 GMT

For same's sake! Take a look at this thread now which I linked above!

In the Netweaver and ABAP forums you have to work really hard most of the time to earn a few ponits.

In the PI forums, you only need to use "the same" a few times and the ponits connect to you like an adapter engine...

I even checked on this to see whether some moderator was pulling my leg, but it was not the same. It was the OP.

So, "the same" is the general field theory of the ponits system...

Try it!

LoL,

Julius

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:38:49 GMT

Lolz, hahahahahaha

I was about the post link for the "same" thread in this one but the "same" was done by Julius before i can do the "same"

Aamir

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:40:26 GMT

Thanks to Julius for letting the community know one of the easier ways of earning points. It is getting harder to earn points in ABAP forum these days. Though i don't know even the 'A B C D' of Process Integration let me try my luck with 'THE SAME' technique to get a few points

Vikranth

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:47:02 GMT

Yes, it's almost unbelievable.

I think folks feel comforted by it. This is not something which I am used to here on SDN...

I give SAP Security training courses and this is more than just technical know-how. You need to keep the folks interested (a real challenge sometimes..) and give them re-assurance that they are understanding it.

You cannot always tell them complicated stuff which they don't know, because you loose them (try that on day 1 of a 5 day course).

But why someone would ask this question is beyond me to be honest...

Anyway, I am going back to that thread for more of the same.

Hopefully the OP will respond at some stage...

Same as always,

Julius

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:18:18 GMT

> Though i don't know even the 'A B C D' of Process Integration let me try my luck with 'THE SAME' technique to get a few points

Little tip: Search for the string "what is the difference between" in the subject title...

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:20:26 GMT

You win some, you loose some...

Okay, back to normal...

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Jelena_Perfiljeva — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:27:54 GMT

I did a quick search and it looks like in most cases "help for the same" is just a rather lazy way to repeat the question or bump the question up or, possibly, as pointed out above, one of the point-hunting techniques.

Now if anyone could explain "revert back"... Isn't it like turning 360 degrees?

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:32:56 GMT

Now if anyone could explain "revert back"... Isn't it like turning 360 degrees?

Nope, I think it is 180° => so "not the same".

This makes sense because the original link was asking a negative question to exclude his error. (disregard the error for a moment...)

The second one was asking a lazy open-ended step-by-step question. In these cases, even the magic "same" cannot help you. You need a link-farm...

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Please, Explain the same.

ChrisSolomon — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:53:41 GMT

Careful.....I asked the "revert back" question a long long time ago....

and almost had my head bitten off for it. haha (and I STILL think I am right! Hey, I'm American...I must be right! hahaha)

Re: Please, Explain the same.

jurjen_heeck — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:30:00 GMT

Et tu, Julius? No link to the [SCN Urban Dictionary?|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/SCN%20Urban%20Dictionary]? How could you miss such an opportunity?

Please check there for the same.

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:20:42 GMT

A new trend among the forum members (read OP) is to end a question with:

Looking forward to a positive reply/input

I dont understand the OP's motive here. Is he/she trying to say, that he/she doesnt want a negative (wrong) answer to the question. Or does it just mean =>

hey I did not search the forums, nor put any effort in solving the problem, nor read SAP Help. So just give me the step-by-step solution without asking me to search for the same or try on my own.

PS: Here's an example for the same:

Edited by: kishan P on Sep 24, 2009 12:55 PM

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:24:24 GMT

Hi,

Thanks to all for explaining the same and for the links to the same hilarious threads.

So it seems that the new game in town is to use the same world as much as possible.

Therefore I will try now to do the same as everyone.

same Olivier as before but educated now !

Re: Please, Explain the same.

gaurav_kothari — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:27:42 GMT

LOL. That indeed is a great collection. It explains "the same" very well

Regards,

Gaurav

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:26:30 GMT

Thanks for the same

Re: Please, Explain the same.

ThomasZloch — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:46:03 GMT

There is also some creativity in politely circumventing forbidden phrases.

"anticipating your quick positive help" -> "ur-gent"

"Kindly suggest with a solution as an earliest" -> "ur-gent"

"any pointers will be highly appreciated" -> "poings will be rewarded"

Re: Please, Explain the same.

stephenjohannes — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:10 GMT

I'm also trying to figure out where "the same" is used in normal conversations here in the midwest and finally figured it out.

Normally the phrase is "Can you please do the same?" and is associated with a negative connotation aimed at correcting improper behavior or when someone is being lazy. It's typically more associated with parents scolding their children or disciplinary action. I have also left out the colorful adjectives/verbs that would pepper that phrase.

I.E.

"Jimmy is sitting perfectly quiet here and not screaming, can you please do the same?".

The more polite fashion would be to ask someone "Can you do something similar to what was done here?"

Interesting though how SCN has managed to remove that aspect from the phrase.

Take care,

Stephen

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:07:05 GMT

Has anyone ever tried any combination of these on their wife or girlfriend?

Re: Please, Explain the same.

Former Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:12:33 GMT

>Has anyone ever tried any combination of these on their wife or girlfriend?

For the same wife or girlfriend ? That would be dangerous : WAF would not be very good....

PS : WAF : Woman Acceptance Factor