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    <title>topic Downstream Refining – SAP S/4HANA Capabilities for Multi‑Stage Cost &amp;amp; Value Formation and Traceabili in SAP for Oil, Gas, and Energy Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/sap-for-oil-gas-and-energy-discussions/downstream-refining-sap-s-4hana-capabilities-for-multi-stage-cost-amp-value/m-p/14333423#M2826</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Dear SAP experts,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In downstream refining, product cost and value formation typically occur across multiple industrial stages, including:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;transformations in different units and installations (some external to the company),&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;blending of intermediate products,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;non‑linear and circular product flows,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;movements through third‑party facilities,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;and situations where physical traceability does not always match economic traceability.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In many downstream refining companies, the economic value of products is not derived from internal cost structures but from external economic or market‑based models, where product value is influenced by selling prices, market spreads, or commercial margins. These models often reconstruct the economic chain independently of the physical chain and are maintained outside S/4HANA. Given this reality, downstream companies need to integrate externally calculated product values into S/4HANA for IFRS inventory valuation, Material Ledger Actual Costing, and COPA margin reporting, without replicating the entire economic model inside the ERP.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Given this scenario, I would appreciate SAP’s guidance on the following points:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Which SAP S/4HANA capabilities (FI/CO, Material Ledger, IS‑Oil) support multi‑stage downstream cost and value formation without replicating the entire physical chain inside the ERP?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. If the economic valuation is calculated externally, what is SAP’s recommended integration pattern to bring these values into S/4HANA for:&lt;BR /&gt;Material Ledger Actual Costing,&lt;BR /&gt;legal IFRS inventory valuation,&lt;BR /&gt;and COPA (Margin Analysis)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. How does S/4HANA ensure Material Ledger integrity when the physical transformation hierarchy is maintained externally and does not report 1:1 consumption/production in real time (for example, blends, circular flows, external facilities)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Is there any SAP reference architecture, building block, or process model (for example, in SAP Signavio Process Navigator, IS‑Oil, or S/4HANA Best Practices) that covers downstream refining scenarios involving multi‑stage transformations, blending, external installations, or circular product networks?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many downstream companies aim to align their valuation and cost‑calculation processes with SAP best practices, avoiding unnecessary custom developments whenever possible. At the same time, it is well known in the industry that several Oil &amp;amp; Gas companies rely on external economic models to determine product value, due to the inherent complexity of downstream transformation chains.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For this reason, we would appreciate some input or insight from SAP based on its experience in this sector. We would like to clearly understand which parts of this scenario SAP considers standard within S/4HANA and which parts are expected to remain outside the ERP.&amp;nbsp; Any guidance that helps clarify this distinction would be greatly appreciated.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All recommendations are welcome.!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Gustavo&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:36:08 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ghermoza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-02-23T09:36:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Downstream Refining – SAP S/4HANA Capabilities for Multi‑Stage Cost &amp; Value Formation and Traceabili</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/sap-for-oil-gas-and-energy-discussions/downstream-refining-sap-s-4hana-capabilities-for-multi-stage-cost-amp-value/m-p/14333423#M2826</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Dear SAP experts,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In downstream refining, product cost and value formation typically occur across multiple industrial stages, including:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;transformations in different units and installations (some external to the company),&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;blending of intermediate products,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;non‑linear and circular product flows,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;movements through third‑party facilities,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;and situations where physical traceability does not always match economic traceability.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In many downstream refining companies, the economic value of products is not derived from internal cost structures but from external economic or market‑based models, where product value is influenced by selling prices, market spreads, or commercial margins. These models often reconstruct the economic chain independently of the physical chain and are maintained outside S/4HANA. Given this reality, downstream companies need to integrate externally calculated product values into S/4HANA for IFRS inventory valuation, Material Ledger Actual Costing, and COPA margin reporting, without replicating the entire economic model inside the ERP.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Given this scenario, I would appreciate SAP’s guidance on the following points:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Which SAP S/4HANA capabilities (FI/CO, Material Ledger, IS‑Oil) support multi‑stage downstream cost and value formation without replicating the entire physical chain inside the ERP?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. If the economic valuation is calculated externally, what is SAP’s recommended integration pattern to bring these values into S/4HANA for:&lt;BR /&gt;Material Ledger Actual Costing,&lt;BR /&gt;legal IFRS inventory valuation,&lt;BR /&gt;and COPA (Margin Analysis)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3. How does S/4HANA ensure Material Ledger integrity when the physical transformation hierarchy is maintained externally and does not report 1:1 consumption/production in real time (for example, blends, circular flows, external facilities)?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4. Is there any SAP reference architecture, building block, or process model (for example, in SAP Signavio Process Navigator, IS‑Oil, or S/4HANA Best Practices) that covers downstream refining scenarios involving multi‑stage transformations, blending, external installations, or circular product networks?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many downstream companies aim to align their valuation and cost‑calculation processes with SAP best practices, avoiding unnecessary custom developments whenever possible. At the same time, it is well known in the industry that several Oil &amp;amp; Gas companies rely on external economic models to determine product value, due to the inherent complexity of downstream transformation chains.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For this reason, we would appreciate some input or insight from SAP based on its experience in this sector. We would like to clearly understand which parts of this scenario SAP considers standard within S/4HANA and which parts are expected to remain outside the ERP.&amp;nbsp; Any guidance that helps clarify this distinction would be greatly appreciated.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;All recommendations are welcome.!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Gustavo&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 09:36:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ghermoza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-23T09:36:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Downstream Refining – SAP S/4HANA Capabilities for Multi‑Stage Cost &amp; Value Formation and Tr</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/sap-for-oil-gas-and-energy-discussions/downstream-refining-sap-s-4hana-capabilities-for-multi-stage-cost-amp-value/m-p/14348354#M2827</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear SAP,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After reviewing in detail all the official documentation available, including OSS Notes, Help Portal, Best Practices, Transition Worklists, and the 2025 roadmap information, I have not found any official guidance covering the downstream valuation scenarios typical of refining, in particular:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Multi‑stage production chains (multi‑stage refining chains)&lt;BR /&gt;- Blends, co‑products and yield‑shifting&lt;BR /&gt;- Circular flows and recirculations&lt;BR /&gt;- Market‑based absorption and valuation models (for example, methods such as isomargin, netback, target margin, parity pricing, etc.)&lt;BR /&gt;- Integration of external valuation models with Material Ledger&lt;BR /&gt;- Alignment between market‑based models, Actual Costing, IFRS and Margin Analysis&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have reviewed the relevant IS‑OIL OSS Notes (2328419, 3036174, 3183063, 308021, 3507981, 3008407). These notes cover the data model, HPM, UoM, LIS, migration and consistency, but none of them address downstream valuation or the cost models applied in refining.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Given that these scenarios represent the operational reality of downstream, where approximately 95% of the value comes from crude oil and only 5% from internal processing, I would like to understand SAP’s official position in order to remain aligned with SAP best practice.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Specifically, I would appreciate confirmation of the following:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. Whether SAP provides an official reference model for downstream valuation (Industry Reference Architecture, Solution Maps, internal guides, etc.).&lt;BR /&gt;2. Whether there is any technical or functional documentation specific to refining (whitepapers, architecture guides, industry best practices).&lt;BR /&gt;3. Which parts of the model should be implemented using standard functionality and which parts require extensions, particularly regarding:&lt;BR /&gt;- integration of external valuation models with Material Ledger&lt;BR /&gt;- handling of blends and co‑products&lt;BR /&gt;- multi‑stage valuation&lt;BR /&gt;- circular flows&lt;BR /&gt;- market‑based valuation (including methods such as isomargin, netback, target margin, parity pricing, etc.)&lt;BR /&gt;- interaction with Margin Analysis and IFRS&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In SAP Signavio Process Navigator, I noticed that in the Business Process Variant “Financial Planning &amp;amp; Analysis (Oil &amp;amp; Gas)”, the Business Capability “Inventory Accounting” appears under “Perform Management Accounting”, with a generic description and an explicit reference to “oil and gas upstream”.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, according to the SAP Solution Roadmap for Oil, Gas &amp;amp; Energy (2025) and the functional documentation of S/4HANA Oil &amp;amp; Gas, Inventory Accounting is a Downstream capability, especially relevant for:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Refining&lt;BR /&gt;- Hydrocarbon Supply Chain&lt;BR /&gt;- Terminal Operations&lt;BR /&gt;- Wet Stock Control&lt;BR /&gt;- Gain/Loss Accounting&lt;BR /&gt;- Quantity Conversion&lt;BR /&gt;- Tank Management&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Likewise, a question arises regarding the specific solution processes for Downstream Inventory Accounting. In practice, these processes appear published under other functional groups, such as “PLO Primary Logistics Operations”, which does not align with the placement of the Business Capability “Inventory Accounting” within the “Financial Planning and Analysis (Oil &amp;amp; Gas)” variant.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could SAP confirm whether the Solution Processes published in Signavio are aligned with the SAP Solution Roadmap for Oil, Gas &amp;amp; Energy (2025)?&lt;BR /&gt;And could you clarify whether the placement of “Inventory Accounting” within the FP&amp;amp;A (Oil &amp;amp; Gas) variant is intended to represent Downstream, or if it is a generic classification not specific to industry context?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This clarification would help ensure correct interpretation of Downstream financial processes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the following images:&lt;BR /&gt;1. Financial Planning and Analysis (Oil &amp;amp; Gas)&lt;BR /&gt;2. Model Company for Oil and Gas&lt;BR /&gt;3. Plan Inventory in Terminals (PLO‑08)&lt;BR /&gt;For example, where can we locate, for IS‑OIL Refining, the diagrams for the processes related to:&lt;BR /&gt;- Material Ledger Actual Costing&lt;BR /&gt;- Legal IFRS inventory valuation&lt;BR /&gt;- COPA (Margin Analysis)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you in advance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Kind regards,&lt;BR /&gt;Gustavo&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 14:26:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ghermoza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-03-13T14:26:30Z</dc:date>
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