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    <title>topic Re: SYSTEM MANAGER: system without sapcontrol is not allowed in DevOps and System Administration Forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;This happened to me in SUM.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Further investigation in the logs showed an error "SYSTEM MANAGER: duplicate entry". The problem was indeed there are 2 registered instances with the same number 00. You can see that with command:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE&gt;sapcontrol -nr 00 -function GetSystemInstanceList&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;/replace 00 with any working instance/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem is due to kernel/hostagent updates without restarting. The result was several old hanging &lt;STRONG&gt;sapstartsrv&lt;/STRONG&gt; processes (ps -ef |grep sapstart). I could not restart the server, so I decided to kill them with the kill command.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Somehow I managed to kill more than needed, and there wasn't even one 00 instances reported by the above command, but I started it again &lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE&gt;sapcontrol -nr &amp;lt;instance number&amp;gt; -function &amp;lt;StartService&amp;gt; &amp;lt;SID&amp;gt;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;P.S. stopping starting these usually does not affect users work&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:29:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ILIAN_Grigorov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-09-19T13:29:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SYSTEM MANAGER: system without sapcontrol is not allowed</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/devops-and-system-administration-forum/system-manager-system-without-sapcontrol-is-not-allowed/m-p/12211562#M858</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Severe error(s) occurred in phase PREP_EXTRACT/BEGIN_PRE!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:24:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>former_member383800</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-04-02T08:24:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SYSTEM MANAGER: system without sapcontrol is not allowed</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/devops-and-system-administration-forum/system-manager-system-without-sapcontrol-is-not-allowed/m-p/12211563#M859</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Shelke.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could you share the full log as attachment&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;SS&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 08:52:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>S_Sriram</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-04-02T08:52:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SYSTEM MANAGER: system without sapcontrol is not allowed</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/devops-and-system-administration-forum/system-manager-system-without-sapcontrol-is-not-allowed/m-p/12211564#M860</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Can you please share a screenshot or activity you are performing&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 07:20:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>rishi_singh3</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-05T07:20:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SYSTEM MANAGER: system without sapcontrol is not allowed</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/devops-and-system-administration-forum/system-manager-system-without-sapcontrol-is-not-allowed/m-p/12211565#M861</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This happened to me in SUM.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Further investigation in the logs showed an error "SYSTEM MANAGER: duplicate entry". The problem was indeed there are 2 registered instances with the same number 00. You can see that with command:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE&gt;sapcontrol -nr 00 -function GetSystemInstanceList&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;/replace 00 with any working instance/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The problem is due to kernel/hostagent updates without restarting. The result was several old hanging &lt;STRONG&gt;sapstartsrv&lt;/STRONG&gt; processes (ps -ef |grep sapstart). I could not restart the server, so I decided to kill them with the kill command.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Somehow I managed to kill more than needed, and there wasn't even one 00 instances reported by the above command, but I started it again &lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE&gt;sapcontrol -nr &amp;lt;instance number&amp;gt; -function &amp;lt;StartService&amp;gt; &amp;lt;SID&amp;gt;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;P.S. stopping starting these usually does not affect users work&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:29:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ILIAN_Grigorov</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-19T13:29:58Z</dc:date>
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