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Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:50:41 GMT

Hello,

Even after I reset the password of a particular user, the User gets this error - Initial Password has expired(create new one)

while logging in.

Kindly help.

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:56:35 GMT

Hi,

Please try going in SU01->Logon Tab then give the password

hope this helps

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:03:17 GMT

The thing is I am doing mass password change using LSMW, so I am using the Change Password(Shift+F8) button on the initial SU01 screen only.

But I can't think of any reason why this should not work and changing it through the Logon Data tab should.

Please explain.

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:16:37 GMT

This sounds like normal behaviour; you reset the password of the user, but the user still has to change it upon logging in.

If an admin resets a user's password via SU01, that user will always have to change the password when logging in, as long as the user type is Dialog. SAP is designed to work this way; it's not an error...

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:23:20 GMT

I agree with Trond.

The reason why the system is throwing this message at the user, is most likely because the value of param login/password_max_idle_initial has been exceeded between the date of the reset and the current date when the user uses the password for the first time.

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:38:19 GMT

Yeah, but in spite of that, when I(system admin) is resetting it, irrespective of the value of 'login/password_max_idle_initial', teh user should be able to login using the new initial password.

Is this a bug of some kind?

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:42:52 GMT

> Yeah, but in spite of that, when I(system admin) is resetting it, irrespective of the value of 'login/password_max_idle_initial', teh user should be able to login using the new initial password.

No, it is not "in spite of" or "irrespective". If login/password_max_idle_initial is set to '1' for example and the dialog user takes more than 1 day to logon for the first time, the password based authentication is not permitted => Initial password has expired (create new one).

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:22:09 GMT

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:09:44 GMT

login/password_max_idle_initial = 90 {Intial password created by Administrator remains valid for 90 days if it is not used. }

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:22:06 GMT


> login/password_max_idle_initial = 90
> login/password_max_idle_productive  = 90

Hmmm... then I'm wrong, or the message text being thrown by the system is not accurate about the reason for the incomplete password logon.

Does this happen to all users for whom you reset the password in SU01?

Do you use any CUA or passwordless authentication (Single-Sign-On, etc) in the system? (the password might infact by deactivated... check USR02-CODVN field if there is an 'X' in it for these users).

Other than that I am out of ideas, and the best way is probably to open a customer message with SAP and ask them to take a look (or they know of an already existing correction SAP note).

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Bernhard_SAP — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:43:34 GMT

Hi Deepak,

please check SAP note # 1026425 .

Try another initial password than you 'usually' use as initial password

b.rgds, bernhard

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:02:29 GMT

So the error message is slightly inaccurate. No wonder basis people always claim they cannot work without SAP_ALL...

PS: See the English translation.

@ Gaudam: If you set an initial password using the "wizard" and it works, then Bernhard is correct.

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Bernhard_SAP — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:24:19 GMT

sh....ooot.

you are right.

The english version of that note is not correct...

The message number should be 00 182 instead of 01 182. Then the english translation will be correct... I'll trigger the correction... ;-(

update:

DE version is corrected already, translation to EN should be finishe within the next 2 days...

Edited by: Bernhard Hochreiter on Jul 2, 2008 1:39 PM

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:16:53 GMT

Thanks

@ Gautam: Does that answer your question now and solve the problem?

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:19:30 GMT

Unfortunately, it doesn't.

2 problems:

1. The error we get is "Initial Password has expired(create new one)" and not the one mentioned in the note #1026425

2. We have Basis Release 7.00 and I don't understand how 'login/password_max_idle_initial = 90' is the reason for my problem

Could you please explain how this parameter is affecting the Password Reset

Thanks a bunch in advance.

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:24:43 GMT

Hi Gautam,

See above => the note is going to change in the next two days.

Could the user logon if you reset the password using the wizard, or not?

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:26:28 GMT

Thanks everyone

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

Former Member — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:41:23 GMT

Hi Gautam,

Thanks for following up on your threads.

So, did choosing a different password solve the problem?

Cheers,

Julius

Re: Error : Initial Password has expired(create new one)

former_member759680 — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:56:38 GMT

Yes, I assigned a new(different) initial password and no more errors since.