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    <title>topic Re: BDC in Application Development and Automation Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Kanthimathi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.  if &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;a) The use of BDC be appropriate for recording customization transactions &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Using BDC is as good as making data entry /&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   running the transaction by the user.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  If BDC is well possible for your requirement&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  then absolutely no problem ! go for it!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.  Should I insert the entries in appropriate tables,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if so how to indentify the dependant tables?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   SAP does not recommend this. It may stop support&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   if u directly tamper / enter / modify&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  entries in standard tables.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Moreover the customizing transation&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  affects which which tables&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  no body knows in details.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Moreover, the transaction will&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  do standard required CHECKS &amp;amp; VALIDATIONS,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; which are of UTMOST IMPORTANCE,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but directly entering in tables&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;would be VERY DANGEROUS&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and may be INCONSISTENT.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.  Go for BDC !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;    BDC will take care of all such IFS and BUTS. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;    BDC is as good as SIMULATING the Transaction !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope it helps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amit M.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: Amit Mittal&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: Amit Mittal&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:38:59 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2005-12-01T09:38:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044387#M87444</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dear Friends,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   I wanted to automate some custimizing activities like Profile Copy.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   I would like to know if &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  a) The use of BDC be appropriate for recording customization transactions (or)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  b) Should I insert the entries in appropriate tables,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if so how to indentify the dependant tables?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Usha&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:34:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T09:34:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044388#M87445</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Kanthimathi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1.  if &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;a) The use of BDC be appropriate for recording customization transactions &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Using BDC is as good as making data entry /&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   running the transaction by the user.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  If BDC is well possible for your requirement&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  then absolutely no problem ! go for it!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2.  Should I insert the entries in appropriate tables,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if so how to indentify the dependant tables?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   SAP does not recommend this. It may stop support&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   if u directly tamper / enter / modify&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  entries in standard tables.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Moreover the customizing transation&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  affects which which tables&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  no body knows in details.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Moreover, the transaction will&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  do standard required CHECKS &amp;amp; VALIDATIONS,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; which are of UTMOST IMPORTANCE,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;but directly entering in tables&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;would be VERY DANGEROUS&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and may be INCONSISTENT.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3.  Go for BDC !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;    BDC will take care of all such IFS and BUTS. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;    BDC is as good as SIMULATING the Transaction !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hope it helps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amit M.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: Amit Mittal&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Message was edited by: Amit Mittal&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:38:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T09:38:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044389#M87446</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Usha/Kanthi Mathi &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Before that RUN ST05 Sql trace,then recording  and find the tables and fields related to trnasaction.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vijay&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:39:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T09:39:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044390#M87447</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Freinds,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   Thanks a lot for your replies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now let me explain the real scenario.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) I already performed the trace and could find that this profile copy hits nearly 45 tables.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) I also completed the BDC for this process. The problem I face here is as follows&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   a) I have done the Copy by cliking the Copy Button&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;which copy the selected profile.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Say for eg I have a profile called Telco, the action above copies it into a new profile called ZTelco_cpy and also copies the functional profiles associated with the profile Telco.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Every profile will have nearly 16 or more functional profiles. The above BDC works fine if the functional profile entries are 18 or less - If more the BDC fails.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any idea of how to resolve this issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I guess that this is because of the page down issue in BDC.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:49:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T09:49:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044391#M87448</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi again,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1 If this is the case then&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  if a FM or BAPI is available, (for this purpose)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  then it would be the best option.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  we need to search for it!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. which tcode are u talking about ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Amit M.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:57:51 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T09:57:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044392#M87449</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes you are right.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I tried that also, but I am unable to find one.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The TCODE is use is CRMC_IC_MAIN&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Usha&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:00:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:00:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044393#M87450</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  Can you tell us what is the transaction for which you are doing the BDC?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The altenative approac of BDC would be using a BAPI.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It would not have any issues with page down handling.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ALl you have to do is to fill the bapi structures,instead of BDC structuers and call the bapi with that structures and that would serve the same purpose of BDC.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ravi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:01:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:01:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044394#M87451</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;But for the same I need some Standard BAPI which carry out this task, How to find it out?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:04:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:04:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044395#M87452</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;  I don't find the transaction in my system. Can you give me the description of the transaction? &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Or you can go to the BAPI transaction and parse through the bapi tree to find the appropriate bapi.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alternatively you can search in se37 by giving bapi*&amp;lt;some relevant text&amp;gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ravi&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:09:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:09:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Use this BAPI to do that JOB....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;BAPI_XBP_JOB_ADD_ABAP_STEP&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vijay&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:09:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:09:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes I will do the same and surely reward points if I get a solution.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:11:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:11:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044398#M87455</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Vijay,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   I went thro' the documentation of the BAPI specified by you, I don't find any relavance of it in my scenario.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can u explain me a bit how it is related to mine&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;REgards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:30:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:30:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/bdc/m-p/1044399#M87456</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;hi That FM will modify the Job already set.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sorry for that, this is the &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;BAPI_XBP_ADD_JOB_STEP&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt; to add a job to a program.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You check this , this will definitely help you...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vijay&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:52:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-01T10:52:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;in the structure &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;STE&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;P we will send the inforamtion of JOb .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;please see this structure ...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vijay&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:54:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;hi Please close this thread if you problem solves.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and try ro reward for helpful answers...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;vijay&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:59:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-02T07:59:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: BDC</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Friends,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;   I did a recording and have acheived the result.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thankyou very much for your replies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;REgards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Usha&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:18:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>kanthimathikris</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-12-02T08:18:55Z</dc:date>
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