topic Re: client Independent in Application Development and Automation Discussions

client Independent

Former Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:36:17 GMT

What is the client concept in SAP? What is the meaning of client independent?

Re: client Independent

Former Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:40:43 GMT

Hi in SAP many clients will be there and most of things are specific to client.

000 is the nase client - which come along woth SAP s/w and it contains all SAP settings. we can define (basis people) other clients and we can set-up the clients as per our requirements.

client dependent in the sense - if you develop an object (example: Script) in one client, that object is not visible in other clients.

Independent means visible in all clients..

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/8d/933d3c3a926614e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm

Re: client Independent

Former Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:41:35 GMT

client depedent and indepedent mainly related with SAP Database tables..

HOW

If Database table contain it's 1st field with MANDT then it's depedent to a particular Client.

and if Database table not contain it's 1st field MANDT then it's client indepedent.

so if table is client indepedent then we can use it's data in any client.

give rwd pts if helpful

Prarthan.

Re: client Independent

Former Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:42:09 GMT

http://www.sap-img.com/sap-introduction.htm

http://www.sap-img.com/general/what-is-sap--landscape.htm

Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients

Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data

where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients

Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..

There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!

As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.

Few more reasons why....? Please read below:

SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;

if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.

Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.

In commercial, organizational, and technical terms, a self-contained unit in an SAP system with separate master records and its own set of tables.

There are different meanings.

Functionality point of View CLIENT is the highest hierarchial Orgn entity in any module

Clients again are different from each box/system like DEV,Quality and PRD.

Generally we create more clients in DEV system one for technical and other for sandbox and other for Customization etc.

This is a Mandatory field in all tables.

Each client has its own set of Application,master,data. Hence we need to populate data for each clinet separatly.(I think you cant say "implementing the SAP for the client")

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Client Independant: These objects are not specific to any client. And it is universal which can be viewed,changed across the clients.

Client Dependant: These are the objects can be viewed, changed for the client for which it has been assigned. Other clients do not have access on these objects.

In SAP, all objects are finally stored as tables. "Mandt" is key field which determines whether the object is client dependant or not.

Client Independant transport requests will make the transported objects available across the clients. and Client dependent transport request make the objects available only for the client mentioned by field "Mandt"

look here:

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b7/8a9a3aaf894871e10000000a114084/frameset.htm

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Client Independent(cross client) objects can be accessed from any client without transporting. For example, Reports and smartforms are client independent that means if you create a report or smartform in one client, this report and smartform can be viewed in another client without transporting.

Where as client dependent objects can be viewed or accessed only in the client in which you create them.

All scripts are client dependent and some tables are client dependent.

There are two types of objects in SAP, client dependent and client independent. Objects used in several clients are called client independent while objects used in a specific client is called client dependent. To identify if a table is client dependent, one can use tcodes SE11 or SE12. In the table field attributes, if the MANDT field is present that table is client dependent.

Almost all the programs and database objects are client independent.

Only the data in Database tables are client dependent.

Go through the below PDF file, it is having 4 pages which explains why SAP has Client independent and Client dependant..

http://www.sappoint.com/basis/clntadm.pdf#search=%22ABAP%20%2B%20client%20independent%20and%20client%20dependant%20%22

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Create client????

Goto Tcode su01,

Client 810

Give user name sap*

password:06071992.

presss continue.

In the next screen :

User: Sapuser

Press creat buttom in the application tool bar ,

In address tabstrip : give ur name last name and first name ,

click on logon data: here u give the initial password, suppose password is = nihar

click on profile give : SAP_ALL

SAP_NEW

Press save buttom .

Now ur client 810 created

Goto the SAP EASY Access Screen

Give client : 810

User: sapuser

password: nihar

press enter

Again system will ask for final password.

Give here exiting password: nihar

new password: india.

check this

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check the below link u will find lot of info..

https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=1815764&messageID=1967306

Re: client Independent

Former Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:42:31 GMT

in SAP , in a single server, u can have number of clients. that is tables are client depedent, that is u can access that data fro trhat particular client only. if the client is 200, u can use that dat only for that 200.

client independent is nohing but u can use that object fro any client.'

for example, u can use a report for any client.

regards

'karthik

Re: client Independent

former_member404244 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:42:59 GMT

Hi,

In commercial, organizational, and technical terms, a self-contained unit in an SAP system with separate master records and its own set of tables.

client independent means it is independent of clients..for example i have 3 clients in development server.one for creating new developments and two for testing..Once i create it in in one client it will be visble in other clients also..

Reward if helpful.

Regards,

nagaraj

Re: client Independent

Former Member — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:43:18 GMT

Hi Vishnu,

Client independent objects are those that are visible across all the clients .

For Example :

Suppose that you system has 2 clients in the Development System 100 and 200

When you create a report Z_TEST in a client 100 of your development system then the report would also be available in the other client 200 of your development system.

Whereas a Client Dependent object (like views) when done in the client 100 of a development system would not be available in the client 200 until SCC1(client transport) is done.

Regards,.

Satish