basic idoc type

Former Member — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:07:55 GMT

While creating a basic idoc type there is a radio button 'Extension' on the screen.

When i specify a basic idoc type name and click on the create button,it takes me to the create screen,which has some other options like 'Create new' 'Create as copy' and 'Create Successor'. My ques is that what is the difference between

a) Creating a basic idoc type using radio button 'Extension' on the we30 screen.

b) When I click on radio button basic type on the we30 screen and then in the next screen if i Click on 'Create Successor'.

Are both of them doing the same thing?

Re: basic idoc type

varma_narayana — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:13:53 GMT

Extension means Creating an Extended Idoc type (i.e Adding new segments for an Existing IDOC type)

When we create Extension for a basic type (For Eg MATMAS05) there is no need to develop new programs for OUTBOUND and INBOUND processing . Rather we can Implement enhancements in the Standard programs of the Basic type.

But When we create a new BASIC TYPE (using any options such as Create Successor Etc) We have to Develop these programs.

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Re: basic idoc type

Former Member — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:15:59 GMT

Hi,

Creating a basic type with extension means that basic type is not fulfilling your criteria so you extend one or some of its segments to include some more fields in the segments in order to meet your requirement.

Create successor on the other hand means that you are upgrading a basic type to a new basic type in order to meet your requirements.For eg.if you have an ORDERS05 idoc,you need some big changes in it to fulfil your desired criteria so you upgrade it to ORDERS06 basic idoc type.This is different from the extension of an idoc where the emphasis is more on including some new fields in a segment rather than changing the whole idoc.

Hope it was useful.

Thanks,

Sandeep

Re: basic idoc type

Former Member — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:20:49 GMT

Data Creation in Idoc

IDocs are text encoded documents with a rigid structure that are used to exchange data between R/3 and a foreign system. Instead of calling a program in the destination system directly, the data is first packed into an IDoc and then sent to the receiving system, where it is analyzed and properly processed. Therefore an IDoc data exchange is always an

asynchronous process. The significant difference between simple RFC-calls and IDoc data exchange is the fact, that every action performed on IDocs are protocolled by R/3 and IDocs can be reprocessed if an error occurred in one of the message steps.

While IDocs have to be understood as a data exchange protocol, EDI and ALE are typical use cases for IDocs. R/3 uses IDocs for both EDI and ALE to deliver data to the receiving system. ALE is basically the scheduling mechanism that defines when and between which partners and what kind of data will be exchanged on a regular or event triggered basis. Such a set-up is called an ALE-scenario.

IDoc is a intermediate document to exchange data between two SAP Systems.

*IDocs are structured ASCII files (or a virtual equivalent).

*Electronic Interchange Document

*They are the file format used by SAP R/3 to exchange data with foreign systems.

*Data Is transmitted in ASCII format, i.e. human readable form

*IDocs exchange messages

*IDocs are used like classical interface files

IDOC types are templates for specific message types depending on what is the business document, you want to exchange.

WE30 - you can create a IDOC type.

An IDOC with data, will have to be triggered by the application that is trying to send out the data.

FOr testing you can use WE19.

How to create idoc?

*WE30 - you can create a IDOC type

For more information in details on the same along with the examples can be viewed on:

http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm#_Toc8400404

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a6620507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm

http://www.sappoint.com/presentation.html

http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_search.html

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm

http://www.erpgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm

To Create Idoc we need to follow these steps:

Create Segment ( WE31)

Create Idoc Type ( WE30 )

Create Message Type ( WE81 )

Assign Idoc Type to Message Type ( WE82 )

Creating a Segment

Go to transaction code WE31

Enter the name for your segment type and click on the Create icon

Type the short text

Enter the variable names and data elements

Save it and go back

Go to Edit -> Set Release

Follow steps to create more number of segments

Create IDOC Type

Go to transaction code WE30

Enter the Object Name, select Basic type and click Create icon

Select the create new option and enter a description for your basic IDOC type and press enter

Select the IDOC Name and click Create icon

The system prompts us to enter a segment type and its attributes

Choose the appropriate values and press Enter

The system transfers the name of the segment type to the IDOC editor.

Follow these steps to add more number of segments to Parent or as Parent-child relation

Save it and go back

Go to Edit -> Set release

Create Message Type

Go to transaction code WE81

Change the details from Display mode to Change mode

After selection, the system will give this message “The table is cross-client (see Help for further info)”. Press Enter

Click New Entries to create new Message Type

Fill details

Save it and go back

Assign Message Type to IDoc Type

Go to transaction code WE82

Change the details from Display mode to Change mode

After selection, the system will give this message “The table is cross-client (see Help for further info)”. Press Enter.

Click New Entries to create new Message Type.

Fill details

Save it and go back

Check these out..

Check below link. It will give the step by step procedure for IDOC creation.

http://www.supinfo-projects.com/cn/2005/idocs_en/2/

ALE/ IDOC

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc

http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419

http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm

http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf

http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html

http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc

http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419

http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm

http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.docs

go trough these links.

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc

http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419

http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm

http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf

http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm

http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html

http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html

http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc

http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419

http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm

http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm

http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html

http://http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm

An IDoc is simply a data container that is used to exchange information between any two processes that can understand the syntax and semantics of the data...

1.IDOCs are stored in the database. In the SAP system, IDOCs are stored in database tables.

2.IDOCs are independent of the sending and receiving systems.

3.IDOCs are independent of the direction of data exchange.

The two available process for IDOCs are

Outbound Process

Inbound Process

AND There are basically two types of IDOCs.

Basic IDOCs

Basic IDOC type defines the structure and format of the business document that is to be exchanged between two systems.

Extended IDOCs

Extending the functionality by adding more segments to existing Basic IDOCs.

To Create Idoc we need to follow these steps: