topic Re: Mini SAP in Application Development and Automation Discussions

Mini SAP

Former Member — Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:58:51 GMT

I was just wondering if anyone new if the 'Mini SAP' installation which comes free with the objects book requires a connection to and existing SAP system or if it is a standalone application. I.e could i run it on my home PC without any external connection.

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Re: Mini SAP

gregorw — Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:18:32 GMT

The Mini SAP is a standalone system. Only Basis is included. You don't have any buissines application like SD, MM, FI or CO in it. But you can connect to other SAP Systems with RFC.

Regards

Gregor

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:37:27 GMT

so would i be able to develop ABAP programs, and syntax check them? without being connected to any SAP system

Re: Mini SAP

Peter_Inotai — Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:11:00 GMT

MiniSAP 6.10 & 6.20 system is a SAP server, which would run on your PC and you can logon/connect with SAPGUI (also installed in your PC) and you can develop SAP programs and do almost the same thing as you would do in case of normal SAP system.

In case of MiniWAS 6.30 & 6.40 only the Java engine delivered so you cannot test ABAP programs.

Incho

Ps: This site gives you an overview, what you can expect:

http://www.geocities.com/incho_master/MiniWAS.htm

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:35:38 GMT

cool, thanks for the info

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:37:59 GMT

As long as you do a PURE ABAP coding without accessing any tables that are not there in MiniSAP .. then you're OK.

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:10:04 GMT

so would i not be able to code a select statement form say the EKKO table and syntax check it ok. Also can i create Z tables within MiniSAP?

Re: Mini SAP

Peter_Inotai — Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:16:23 GMT

Yes, you can create Z tables in minisap.

Although the R/3 module tables are not available in Minisap, you have the full Flight training "module", where you can get familiar with ABAP concepts...eg you want to learn the concept of persistent class: you create a class/program for table SFLIGHT and you can see how it works...later in your R/3 system you can do the same for other table like EKKO if you like.

In minisap you can play around freely...

Incho

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Wed, 16 Jun 2004 01:58:19 GMT

Peter, I found the " http://www.geocities.com/incho_master/MiniWAS.htm " very useful, thanks a million. Quick question, why is it that you have to extend your license? Also, when you install miniSAP WAS 6.10, you get a trial copy of MS SQL, how do I see how much space of that trial copy I am using and how do I make the maximum size larger if possible? Please advise..

Re: Mini SAP

Peter_Inotai — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:11:00 GMT

> Peter, I found the "

> http://www.geocities.com/incho_master/MiniWAS.htm "

> very useful, thanks a million.

Your welcome.

> Quick question, why

> is it that you have to extend your license?

Because it's a trial version and valid for 90 days, so you have to refresh it after every 90 days. Fortunately it's free.

> Also,

> when you install miniSAP WAS 6.10, you get a trial

> copy of MS SQL,

No. It's coming with SAPDB database.

> how do I see how much space of that

> trial copy I am using and how do I make the maximum

> size larger if possible?

You can enlarge the dafault DB with adding an extra datafile. If it's full you cannot extend it. I think the available space is more than enough, since in Minisap you don't generate too much transactional data, mainly repository objects, which don't need as much space as transactional data.

Hope helps.

Incho

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:04:46 GMT

I found myself a little confused with the wording of Incho's reply about being able to enlarge but not extend the miniSAP database. Though I think I get what was meant, others might not so I thought I'd post a follow-up.

With respect to the MBS 4.6D minisap system, this database utilises MSDE. MSDE is essentially Microsoft SQL Server with various constraints, most notably that the database size may not exceed 2GB. When you install MBS, you'll find the database is already at about 1.8GB. To my knowledge, there is little that can be done about that.

The later minisap systems that include the ABAP engine are WA1 (Web Application Server 6.10) and BSP (WAS 6.20). Both of these use SAP DB rather than MSDE.

The SAP DB databases can be made bigger as required by adding additional data volumes. To do this, you'll need to install the SAP DB database manager, as outlined in Incho's useful page, mentioned elsewhere in this topic. Once installed, connect to the SAP DB database, go to the configuration section, click on volumes and then add a new volume. Fairly straight forward to understand once you're there.

BTW, I love step 114.

Scott

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:25:44 GMT

Scott and Incho, you are both great help. I was confused on what my WAS 6.10 MINISAP version came with, either MSDE(MS SQL server) or SAP DB, when I installed MINISAP WAS 6.10 an icon on my systray started showing up to start or stop the SQL service on windows XP, perhaps that threw me for a loop thinking it came with MS SQL and not SAP DB, either way I'll try to extend the DB to make sure it does come with SAP DB.

Thank you all

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:27:28 GMT

Hi all!

Thank you for all the info about MiniSAP/MiniWAS.

Now i'd like to know how can i get it.

where can i buy the CD?

can i download it from internet?, is there any free trial version?

Thank you!!!

Re: Mini SAP

Peter_Inotai — Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:39:44 GMT

You can order MiniWAS 6.10 / 6.20 (ABAP Stack) from here

http://www.sap.com/company/shop/

-> SAP Knowledge Shop

-> General -> SAP NetWeaver -> WAS

WAS 6.30 and 6.40 is also available, but they contain only the Java stack.

Incho

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:06:04 GMT

Ok, thank you Peter!

Ariel.

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:53:59 GMT

I have installed MINISAP 4.6D and not WAS 6.10 as I had stated in my previous post. Whenever I try to edit any of the repository objects that come with it, such as the examples noted in the book ABAP OBJECTS, I get a message telling me I can not change them. Anybody know why/how may I change these? I've created a new development class and copied them in order to edit them, this has been the only work around.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Francisco

Re: Mini SAP

gregorw — Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:41:34 GMT

Hello,

you have to copy the object to begin with a Y or Z. Than you can edit it.

Regards

Gregor

Re: Mini SAP

kmoore007 — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:26:43 GMT

This mini-sap doesn't sound too impressive nor useful. Anyone out there using it? What do you think about it?

Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:42:47 GMT

Kenneth,

It depends on what you are looking for. MINISAP targets Basis and ABAP individuals, if you are a functional consultant trying to get your hands on some IMG(Implementation Guide for R/3 Customizing) then this is not for you. I recommend you buy one of the books from SAP-PRESS if you are interested in ABAP or the technical side of R/3, such as the the ABAP objects book or ABAP objects references, they each come with MINISAP, 4.6D and WAS 610 respectively.

Francisco

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Re: Mini SAP

Former Member — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 03:18:48 GMT

Does anybody know how long does it take for SAP to facilitate me a license extension for MINISAP 4.6D? I've requested for SAP to extend my license because its been already 30 days since I installed it, I still have not receieved it from them.. its been a week since I requested it .. I thought I'd ask here before I request it again through the online form, perhaps there's a different way to request it? Any advise?