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    <title>topic Re: Determinations and Timepoints in Application Development and Automation Discussions</title>
    <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/determinations-and-timepoints/m-p/11485603#M1931633</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Roman,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"During Save (Before Writing Data)" is at the very end of the transaction just before actually writing the changes to the DB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Usually the timepoint "Finalize" should be the one to use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Determinations that are assigned to the determination time “ Finalize” are called during the save process of the transaction manager.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After finalize your data should already be in the state to save them in the DB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If a determination runs "Druing Save" and an error occurs this might cause some issues, because e.g. the system already drew numbers from a number range.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is also a documentation on help.sap.com, but it doesn't explain everything in the very detail:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw75/helpdata/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/content.htm?frameset=/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/frameset.htm&amp;amp;current_toc=/en/31/d2958acf714f4e9aeb42d85c517523/plain.htm&amp;amp;node_id=7"&gt;http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw75/helpdata/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/content.htm?frameset=/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/frameset.htm&amp;amp;current_toc=/en/31/d2958acf714f4e9aeb42d85c517523/plain.htm&amp;amp;node_id=7&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers Martin&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:29:27 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>cyclingfisch_</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-01-21T08:29:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Determinations and Timepoints</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/determinations-and-timepoints/m-p/11485602#M1931632</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello Colleagues,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if I create a determination on ROOT_TEXT (Structure /BOFU/S_SHORT_TEXT) and I add a class to set the upper case text field it works fine. I am not sure about the Evaluation Timepoints. If I set it to "During Save (Before Writing Data)" I get an "Determination pattern not supported" error. If I set it to "Before Save (Finalize)" I don´t get the error.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the difference of these two timepoints and which one would be the correct one in my case.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The examples in BOPF always use "During Save (Before Writing Data)" but have the same error at check I have.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any glue for this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your answers.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Roman&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:13:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Roman71</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-01-21T08:13:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Determinations and Timepoints</title>
      <link>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/determinations-and-timepoints/m-p/11485603#M1931633</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Roman,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"During Save (Before Writing Data)" is at the very end of the transaction just before actually writing the changes to the DB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Usually the timepoint "Finalize" should be the one to use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Determinations that are assigned to the determination time “ Finalize” are called during the save process of the transaction manager.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After finalize your data should already be in the state to save them in the DB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If a determination runs "Druing Save" and an error occurs this might cause some issues, because e.g. the system already drew numbers from a number range.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is also a documentation on help.sap.com, but it doesn't explain everything in the very detail:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw75/helpdata/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/content.htm?frameset=/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/frameset.htm&amp;amp;current_toc=/en/31/d2958acf714f4e9aeb42d85c517523/plain.htm&amp;amp;node_id=7"&gt;http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw75/helpdata/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/content.htm?frameset=/en/57/9e9c5b2c6e48b48d773b45f0f33377/frameset.htm&amp;amp;current_toc=/en/31/d2958acf714f4e9aeb42d85c517523/plain.htm&amp;amp;node_id=7&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers Martin&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:29:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sap.com/t5/application-development-and-automation-discussions/determinations-and-timepoints/m-p/11485603#M1931633</guid>
      <dc:creator>cyclingfisch_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-01-21T08:29:27Z</dc:date>
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